08/24 research has begun

Jul 15, 2019

I watched the Gates play a few times last year, but can't say I'm close to being an expert on their roster. I know one of the big things to look for is they lost basically their entire OL. With only a month or so remaining, going to be posting about our matchups a lot more and watching all of their games. In the first game I watched, I noticed there were 4 OL from last year's unit who are now gone. Here are the dudes who'll supposedly comprise their new OL unit:

Stone Forsythe - Former 3 star in class of 2016, RS Junior, has some starts sprinkled in over his career, but all at RT.
Brett Heggie - Former 3 star in class of 2016, RS Junior, some starts under his belt from 2017, has been injured on and off for last couple years, did get game action in most of their games last year
Nick Buchanan - Former 3 star in class of 2015, RS Senior, the lone returning starter (12 games) from last year's unit, former 3 star, not the biggest dude you'll see lined up at center.
Noah Banks - Dude's a transfer from Iowa Western College, RS Senior. *** This is apparently Chris Bleich. Banks has a medical issue and may not be cleared. Bleich is also a former 3 star.
Jean Delance or Richard Gouraige - Both former 4 stars. Delance is from class of 2016; Gouraige is from class of 2018. Delance is a former transfer from Texas, played in a handful of games last year. Gouraige took a redshirt last year.

Good chance I missed something since I only now began checking out the matchup with this disgusting program. Nonetheless, this matchup with our DL and blitz packages likely is the #1 or #2 key determinant for 08/24.

On the surface, it's a plus matchup for us because we get Garvin against a dude who's mostly played RT and has minimal career starts on one side, and Hill/Rousseau/Patchan against whoever they choose to settle in to their RT spot. Inside, one thing I'm afraid of early in the season would be big, mauling OL like Wiscy going up against Bethel, Ford, Nesta and company. Luckily for us in this game, I wouldn't necessarily call label their OL as "big and mauling." I'm sure we're likely gonna get hit with some misdirection and hope Blake Baker can clean up some of it, but if you're as excited for 08/24 as I am, this is a key matchup to dig in on.

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Empirical Cane

Jul 15, 2019

KrazyCane said:
Nesta Silvera is unblockable... The End.

Easy. Easy.

Fatboycane

Jul 15, 2019

[]_[] swag said:
Agreed. With that line they’re predicting 29-21.5. That’s a lot of points for our defense to give up, especially if we’re not going 3& out with a 30 yard punt consistently on offense.

Hope the new punter lives up to hype. Our punters put us at a huge disadvantage last year in terms of field position/hidden yardage

millertime26

Jul 15, 2019

All this talk about Florida Oline has anybody thought about Jabari Zuniga and Jonathan Greenard going against our tackles ?

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Dilber

Jul 15, 2019

millertime26 said:
All this talk about Florida Oline has anybody thought about Jabari Zuniga and Jonathan Greenard going against our tackles ?

The difference is is that it can't be any worse for us than previous years. It will be for Franks.

LuCane

Jul 15, 2019

millertime26 said:
All this talk about Florida Oline has anybody thought about Jabari Zuniga and Jonathan Greenard going against our tackles ?

Be glad to hear it. Just started watching their team today. Will be traveling this week and hopefully can get a few full games in during downtime.

brock

Jul 15, 2019

millertime26 said:
All this talk about Florida Oline has anybody thought about Jabari Zuniga and Jonathan Greenard going against our tackles ?

Zuniga is a solid edge player, garvin is better though. Greenard had a productive season but his final year at Louisville but missed all last season with an injury so who knows how he comes back.

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Unoah

Jul 15, 2019

LuCane said:
Be glad to hear it. Just started watching their team today. Will be traveling this week and hopefully can get a few full games in during downtime.

Zuniga is an absolute beast, unsure about Greenard.

Florida middle is stout with Concliffe, Shuler and Campbell, also came away impressed by Moon at end with the few snaps I saw against Georgia. Much like Miami, they are having to replace some impact guys on their defense.

flagator86

Jul 15, 2019

brock said:
Zuniga is a solid edge player, garvin is better though. Greenard had a productive season but his final year at Louisville but missed all last season with an acl so who knows how he comes back.

It wasnt an ACL, it was his wrist

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DuvalCanegang

Jul 15, 2019

millertime26 said:
All this talk about Florida Oline has anybody thought about Jabari Zuniga and Jonathan Greenard going against our tackles ?

Im with Millertime on this one. Just like our Tackles going up against garvin, Rous and hill... their tackles arent exactly going up against scrubs in practice. Scaife vs Zuniga is going to be a key matchup imo

brock

Jul 15, 2019

flagator86 said:
It wasnt an ACL, it was his wrist

Yeah you are right, significant ligament injury in his wrist last year

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MS11

Jul 15, 2019

brock said:
Zuniga is a solid edge player, garvin is better though. Greenard had a productive season but his final year at Louisville but missed all last season with an injury so who knows how he comes back.

Zuniga is a freak think he can be a first round guy. Really long and strength is a big thing with him. Also a really good mover. I don't know which traits you'd see better in Garvin if you watch Zuniga. Think Hill would be closer to being over Zuniga cause his 1st step and bend I'd say is better than Zuniga so you can make an argument

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MS11

Jul 15, 2019

millertime26 said:
All this talk about Florida Oline has anybody thought about Jabari Zuniga and Jonathan Greenard going against our tackles ?

One of the more memorable things from last year poor coaching wise I remember is leaving the tackles on an island with Brian Burns for more than half the game and letting him single handedly derail the offense before chipping him. Then after the game Richt talked about how good he was like we didn't know that before the game

brock

Jul 15, 2019

MS11 said:
Zuniga is a freak think he can be a first round guy. Really long and strength is a big thing with him. Also a really good mover. I don't know which traits you'd see better in Garvin if you watch Zuniga. Think Hill would be closer to being over Zuniga cause his 1st step and bend I'd say is better than Zuniga so you can make an argument

Garvin is a more productive player and he has better balance as an edge rusher imo . We’ve only seen a glimpse of what garvin can really do but he still had 5.5 sacks 17.5 tfls as a sophomore . His game is about to take another leap. And out of those 3 you named I agree hill has the best first step in addition to the best pass rushing traits

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MS11

Jul 15, 2019

brock said:
Garvin is a more productive player and he has better balance as an edge rusher imo . We’ve only seen a glimpse of what garvin can really do but he still had 5.5 sacks 17.5 tfls as a sophomore . His game is about to take another leap. And out of those 3 you named I agree hill has the best first step in addition to the best pass rushing traits

We'll see I'm not a big fan of the production argument just cause Garvin played basically every snap while Zuniga had to share snaps with Polite and Jefferson. Personally I think Polite>Hill>Garvin>Greenard with Hill probably getting the edge as the best pass rusher. Can see Hill being the best of the 4 if Miami coaches can add to what he already has in his tool bag

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CanesFan93

Jul 15, 2019

scrantoncane said:

Figured.

252cane

Jul 15, 2019

MS11 said:
We'll see I'm not a big fan of the production argument just cause Garvin played basically every snap while Zuniga had to share snaps with Polite and Jefferson. Personally I think Polite>Hill>Garvin>Greenard with Hill probably getting the edge as the best pass rusher. Can see Hill being the best of the 4 if Miami coaches can add to what he already has in his tool bag

Zuniga was a starter with polite

brock

Jul 15, 2019

MS11 said:
We'll see I'm not a big fan of the production argument just cause Garvin played basically every snap while Zuniga had to share snaps with Polite and Jefferson. Personally I think Polite>Hill>Garvin>Greenard with Hill probably getting the edge as the best pass rusher. Can see Hill being the best of the 4 if Miami coaches can add to what he already has in his tool bag

Yes polite is a better edge rusher but why is he even being added into the equation when he’s not even there anymore? As of now both hill and garvin are better pass rushers than zuniga imo. Cece Jefferson barely did anything last year with 6 tfls and 1 sack. Miami rotates their dline quite a bit actually so garvin wasn’t getting all of the snaps

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Carlcane

Jul 15, 2019

LuCane said:
Be glad to hear it. Just started watching their team today. Will be traveling this week and hopefully can get a few full games in during downtime.

Doesn't this game have a similar feeling to LSU? Our defense gave up against Wisky they had played way too many games against our opponent and our offense and punters. Our defense needs to learn from last year LSU game if we give up a big play dont let it ruin the rest of the game

brock

Jul 15, 2019

Carlcane said:
Doesn't this game have a similar feeling to LSU? Our defense gave up against Wisky they had played way too many games against our opponent and our offense and punters. Our defense needs to learn from last year LSU game if we give up a big play dont let it ruin the rest of the game

You mean uf fans being over confident against an overall more talented team(Miami) like we were last year vs LSU along with everyone writing LSU off and having Miami top 10? Yeah eerily similar

Poptimus

Jul 15, 2019

Carlcane said:
Doesn't this game have a similar feeling to LSU? Our defense gave up against Wisky they had played way too many games against our opponent and our offense and punters. Our defense needs to learn from last year LSU game if we give up a big play dont let it ruin the rest of the game

Not at all. We went into the LSU game with Rosier, Feagles, and Richt.

We never had a chance.

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