Coaching Jacory Harris - To me, A warning to Coach Cristobal

[Number1CanesFan]

You’re going to hit me with the “top 3 receivers” thing, aren’t you?

You want the young men to stop going to Alabama and Ohio State? Feature a passing offense that makes them want to be at Miami.

 

[Cribby]

@PIPO getting attacked for not living that .500coachlife and pointing out what J12 said about recruiting a QB…with responses blaming the **** record on our ……. QB….

We just had a monster recruiting win, and rather than enjoying a positive we’re prancing around the board acting like it erases everything causing negativity…

Fascinating.

When your whole argument is “ buh buh buh Tyler threw a thousand picks “ to defend the staff I pretty much just ignore you now. You refuse to talk about how the O looked the last two games and will avoid scheme related things to instead fellate the coaches. We all know why that is, the player is gone and the coach isn’t going anywhere. It’s a form of copium to put it all on a player. Coaches are beyond reproach until they aren’t. Then it’ll suddenly be all their fault with no blame on the players. When in fact it should always be spresd around equally.

Something else i find funny is people rip Tyler saying he makes one read and can’t throw against zone. Well if that’s the case and so obvious why did our HC bring him back not once but twice? While getting him a huge Nil bag?I mean it’s obvious right? Why did he keep throwing him out there injured knowing all this ? Why didn’t he bring in a backup to at least challenge him like other schools did? Instead riding with a true Fr as a backup. Lastly If he‘s in fact a one read qb that needs a simple offense why bring in two OC’s / schemes that doesn’t cater to his skill set ? Once again Mario went out of his way to hitch his wagon to the guy “who can’t read defenses or zone coverages”. On top of that he struggled last year too. So we can’t act like him having issues was out of the realm of possibility.

I keep asking these questions but I’ve yet to receive a good answer so I’ll just shut Up now. I get it. The coaches are beyond reproach and there’s nothing on their resume‘s that could cause one to dare question them.

 

[Canezum5]

oh give me ******* break X can block out of 13 personal just as good as any WR on this team apart from Colby Young, X is a **** of a run blocker
..... "bad coaching having X run blocking" ...youre trying too hard to troll bud

What are you even typing about? X can not and should not be run blocking inline in heavy sets. He's 5'10 185. You could get him seriously hurt. Do you not understand that we're not running a tempo offense and we're allowing the opponent to bring in heavy personnel when we do this?
That means X could be blocking a guy twice his size? Name me 5 great offensive coaches that would put a small slot receiver in that position? Matter of fact, show me.

X is not that kind of run blocker and no slot receiver on the planet is. Are you mentally void of understanding football nuance? You're really exposing yourself as a ward of a game. You should let your fingers rest, sir. You're showing yourself as absolutely clueless defending this BS. It should be embarrassing to you but you think you're smarter than you are so there's that.

 

[Canezum5]

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It looks good on paper. It's an improvement from the prior year. It doesn't absolve Dawson of criticism and It doesn't account for the opportunities and talents that weren't coached well or maximized to its best potential of success.
We had plenty of misses. We'd have a better record if we didn't. I'm sure the coaches would agree.

Unless we improve on the stats I've highlighted below. This is a 7-5 team on average, IMHO. .

Offense has to be better in today's football.




Redzone scoring conversion: top 40 in attempts but 70th in conversion percentage.

1st/3rd quarter points per:

WE STINK to start the game and after halftime. We do not gameplan/script initial drives to start each half well at all
1st quarter:

3rd Quarter:

3rd down conversion per game:

3rd down conversion percentage:

Turnover margin per game:
We didnt have many special teams turnovers. This is absolutely despicable and no way we can win like this.

Yards per pass attempt:

 

[BS85]

oh give me ******* break X can block out of 13 personal just as good as any WR on this team apart from Colby Young, X is a **** of a run blocker
..... "bad coaching having X run blocking" ...youre trying too hard to troll bud

He's saying NONE of the WRs should be blocking in that position dip****, you dont even understand what they're saying

 

[Ironmanfootball]

This almost contradicts what OP is saying.

It’s clear the coaching staff felt Cam was their best TE. So using him primarily as a blocker was using him to his strengths.

I'll inject the 2c that Miami took the TE coach off the field and put him in an office job, the new TE coach managed to get not much out of a 30 year old TE, and a pair of blue chip TE's (with a 3rd injured 3x). Maybe the roles should switch back?

So it's either the TE's suck (multiple blue chips), the scheme sucks (debatable), or the TE coach sucks (quite possible) when you have McCormick, Skinner, Williams, and Arroyo and get 17 catches with one TD out of the 4 of em.

 

[Felonious Monk]

Your Mom gots some great lking …… maids? Nanny? Wait that’s your mom?

Not my mom, but she did wonder how "birds" managed to drop a deuce on her car every week.

 

[DTP]

I'll inject the 2c that Miami took the TE coach off the field and put him in an office job, the new TE coach managed to get not much out of a 30 year old TE, and a pair of blue chip TE's (with a 3rd injured 3x). Maybe the roles should switch back?

So it's either the TE's suck (multiple blue chips), the scheme sucks (debatable), or the TE coach sucks (quite possible) when you have McCormick, Skinner, Williams, and Arroyo and get 17 catches with one TD out of the 4 of em.

I was wondering something similar. I know Field was hired because of his recruiting ties but tight end production under him was excellent. I think our issues at TE this year had more to do with Arroyo being hurt than coaching though. Mc Cormick is what he is. He would have ideally been a TE2 for short yardage situations where we needed the extra blocker. The biggest issue I had wasn't that Mc Cormick didn't produce as a receiver, it's that they insisted on using TEs on almost every play even though it was clearly one of the weakest/least experienced positions on offense. I know you can't just use 4 WR on every play but given that our WR#4 was our most explosive player, keeping him off the field in favor of a one-dimensional tight end hurt our scoring ability.

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

In a condensed set playing Broball when he has to take on a linebacker or a defensive end on a C-Gap run, abso****inglutley!!!!

We aren’t talking run blocking out in space vs a DB, like in a tunnel screen or for a running back out in space, you loon!

I agree . This false Dichotomy that X should be allowed to block anyone or be used as explained for brobal because he’s a tough kid is nuts. Hunter just cause he can block doesn’t mean he’s to be used for every situation .

 

[Ironmanfootball]

I was wondering something similar. I know Field was hired because of his recruiting ties but tight end production under him was excellent. I think our issues at TE this year had more to do with Arroyo being hurt than coaching though. Mc Cormick is what he is. He would have ideally been a TE2 for short yardage situations where we needed the extra blocker. The biggest issue I had wasn't that Mc Cormick didn't produce as a receiver, it's that they insisted on using TEs on almost every play even though it was clearly one of the weakest/least experienced positions on offense. I know you can't just use 4 WR on every play but given that our WR#4 was our most explosive player, keeping him off the field in favor of a one-dimensional tight end hurt our scoring ability.

That's two down but two other blue chip prospects to go. So where's the development of those top TE's in Skinner and Williams?

 

[DTP]

That's two down but two other blue chip prospects to go. So where's the development of those top TE's in Skinner and Williams?

Williams played quite a bit and did alright for a true freshman tight end. Skinner has been the biggest mystery of the entire team. I'm surprised he's not in the portal right now.

 

[Coach Macho]

It looks good on paper. It's an improvement from the prior year. It doesn't absolve Dawson of criticism and It doesn't account for the opportunities and talents that weren't coached well or maximized to its best potential of success.
We had plenty of misses. We'd have a better record if we didn't. I'm sure the coaches would agree.

Unless we improve on the stats I've highlighted below. This is a 7-5 team on average, IMHO. .

Offense has to be better in today's football.




Redzone scoring conversion: top 40 in attempts but 70th in conversion percentage.
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1st/3rd quarter points per:

WE STINK to start the game and after halftime. We do not gameplan/script initial drives to start each half well at all
1st quarter:
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3rd Quarter:



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3rd down conversion per game:

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3rd down conversion percentage:

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Turnover margin per game:
We didnt have many special teams turnovers. This is absolutely despicable and no way we can win like this.
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Yards per pass attempt:

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I mean...

You can find SOMETHING wrong with any offense in the country if you look hard enough...especially if it's the first year of said OC.
Surely yall don't expect a new OC's offense to be elite at everything in year one, do you?

If this much improvement was made in year one, with holdover players from last season, wouldn't common sense tell us that we're only gonna get better next season?

It's like "Yeah we improved vastly, but we could've done this, this and this better."

Well no ****. LOL
That can be said about our defense too, and I don't think anybody here doesn't love Guidry.

 

[Canezum5]

I mean...

You can find SOMETHING wrong with any offense in the country if you look hard enough...especially if it's the first year of said OC.
Surely yall don't expect a new OC's offense to be elite at everything in year one, do you?

If this much improvement was made in year one, with holdover players from last season, wouldn't common sense tell us that we're only gonna get better next season?

Well, the things wrong with our offense keep us from winning and closing games. I mean you have to convert on 3rd downs. You just have too.


We can only hope the offense will be better in year 2. It's definitely not a guarantee nor common sense. The offense could tank in year 2 just as easily as it improved in year 1, with Dawson. That actually happens a lot more in football more than an offense just getting better.

We shall see. I'm rooting for the improvement.

 

[Coach Macho]

Bruh. You're typing crazy. You really should quit while you're ahead. I said it's silly. Why do I need to break this down for you?

1st off don't compare what Lashlee and Dawson have asked X to do. Lashlee didn't have any run plays but inside Zone and toss sweep, both of which asks X to run block against DBs like any offense does.

Dawson asking X to run block out of 13 personnel sets, from condensed formations on 3rd and 4th and short or goal line situations is criminal. Big chance he may have to block a linebacker, DE, or DT which as good as he can be, he ain't that good and has no tape showing he can block guys twice his size. To even put him in that position is criminal and its something Lashlee NEVER did.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about bruh. I can't respect your football acumen if you're gonna be making silly posts like these bro. This is crazy let it go and hold the coaches accountable. Period.

This is something that quite a few NFL offenses asks their WR's to do.
When Sean McVay gave a clinic at the Hecht he spoke about this very thing.

They're just asking him to get in the way, not obliterate people.

 

[Coach Macho]

Well, the things wrong with our offense keep us from winning and closing games. I mean you have to convert on 3rd downs. You just have too.


We can only hope the offense will be better in year 2. It's definitely not a guarantee nor common sense. The offense could tank in year 2 just as easily as it improved in year 1, with Dawson. That actually happens a lot more in football more than an offense just getting better.

We shall see. I'm rooting for the improvement.

Was that Dawson or TVD though?
We don't know.

 

[Canezum5]

This is something that quite a few NFL offenses asks their WR's to do.
When Sean McVay gave a clinic at the Hecht he spoke about this very thing.

They're just asking him to get in the way, not obliterate people.

I know this. This ain't the NFL and when they ask their WRs to do it its typically a pretty big dude.

Saw the eagles ask this of a WR but It was the man child AJ Brown, not the little D.Smith.

 

[Canezum5]

Was that Dawson or TVD though?
We don't know.

If it was TvD it was Dawson.

 

[skeeter]

Was that Dawson or TVD though?
We don't know.

I think it's safe to say both could have been better…BUT also safe to say that TVD simply wigged out. Not just the interceptions but the near interceptions and other incompletions, even if we don't get into the decision making and confusing…He was missing receivers BADLY.

 

[Canezum5]

This is something that quite a few NFL offenses asks their WR's to do.
When Sean McVay gave a clinic at the Hecht he spoke about this very thing.

They're just asking him to get in the way, not obliterate people.

McVay offense been stale af since their SB win.

Makes sense, he got slot WR "gettin in the way" of Backers.

Dude need to cut that **** out the playbook.

 

[Canezum5]

I think it's safe to say both could have been better…BUT also safe to say that TVD simply wigged out. Not just the interceptions but the near interceptions and other incompletions, even if we don't get into the decision making and confusing…He was missing receivers BADLY.

I think it's safe to say that ITS THE COACHES job to reel their players in, scale back, and, in this circumstance, give the QB simpler reads and routes that best suit his comfortability.

We've dawged Tyler to no end on here. We know he played badly. Our coaches coached just as bad. Blame goes even round here. We're definitely not going to pile in players more than coaches. That's so lame