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X had 17 targets?!!

htownkidd said:
Got **** we have some remedial mfs in this fan base JFC.
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I let this place get me WAY more tilted than I should. That’s on me. I’m actually the dumbass. I read so much **** on here everyday that blows the eyebrows off my face and I can’t help myself and I hate myself for it. You’d think after 10 years I’d learn, but nope. Moron.
 
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Cribby said:
Name all the “ forces “ to X that turned into ints? A high majority of them are wide open to X, because he stays open most plays. Ironically the bad Int Tvd threw he had X wide open at the top of the screen. I sure wish he’d “ forced ” that one to X instead.
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I only recall one INT that was forced to X, which was the first INT in the GT game into triple coverage in the end zone.

He has been picked off 3 times throwing the ball to George (GT Twice and UNC).
 
KingB02 said:
Got ****!! 17 targets and less than 100 yards?!! TVD and Xs love fest is going to kill this team. This dude TVD threw a pass to X in quadrupole coverage while Horton was underneath wide open and would’ve probably still been running! How can you allow this **** to continue to happen if you’re the OC?! Why are you not getting on this dude TVD for continuing to throw in triple coverage to a 5’9 wr that runs a 4.7 forty when we got guys running 4.2s and 4.4s. We need to see Horton and Smith get more passes for sure. They both showed they deserve more looks. X has had **** near 35 targets last two games 🤣
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I mean it's not a "love-fest"—quarterbacks have their go-to guys and Restrepo has better chemistry with TVD than Young, Horton, Smith, etc. at this point.

These other cats just have to work more on their timing and getting open.

Again, I wish this weren't the case and Restrepo as a safety blanket—where Van Dyke is literally throwing into triple coverage and not reading his progressions—a huge problem ... but it's not a popularity contest.

The two of them just have better timing and chemistry and have more reps together.
 
Cribby said:
There’s been 4-5 times he’s missed wide open guys and went to X. But even then X is normally open , not always but most times. Teams are keeping safeties deep and we haven’t had anyone else to help X in the middle of the field. Arroyo being fully back should help but the other guys aren’t exactly route technicians and thats what you need when there’s two safeties over the top. Or maybe being able to run the ball.

My biggest issue is X is on the field way too much and that’s one reason he gets so many targets. Between that and st’s makes his usage insane. It’s hard to be fresh when you‘re riding the same guys. I’ve been calling for more BS for almost two seasons , Horton and Ray Ray this year. I personally don’t like the rotation. I’d rather the wealth be spread that way.

Lastly I’ll say this , one area people don’t get is theres miscommunications or wrong routes being ran , but y’all don’t see that. Yiu just see an int, blame the qb. So yeah he thrives to X a tad bit too much but he stays open, catches everything and is trust worthy. Maybe If other guys actually caught the ball they‘d get more targets.
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I recall one miscommunication INT (GT game - throw to George where there was confusion as to which way they each thought they were going. Only they know who was wrong).

The INT into triple coverage to X in the GT game into the End Zone, the other INT to George in GT game and the INT to the UNC linebacker when trying to get the ball to George to me look like all on the QB.

TVD (as I remember being exposed by Florida State and UNC 2 years ago, has trouble throwing into shell coverage by the safeties.

The route concepts by the OC is what should be helping him but when the route concepts suck and the receivers just keep running straight into the coverage, TVD struggles.

So part of it is on all three: TVD, receivers and OC.
 
PIPO said:
I recall one miscommunication INT (GT game - throw to George where there was confusion as to which way they each thought they were going. Only they know who was wrong).

The INT into triple coverage to X in the GT game into the End Zone, the other INT to George in GT game and the INT to the UNC linebacker when trying to get the ball to George to me look like all on the QB.

TVD (as I remember being exposed by Florida State and UNC 2 years ago, has trouble throwing into shell coverage by the safeties.

The route concepts by the OC is what should be helping him but when the route concepts suck and the receivers just keep running straight into the coverage, TVD struggles.

So part of it is on all three: TVD, receivers and OC.
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X is is also running choice routes , which means he decides the route by coverage. That’s another reason he plays so much and gets so many targets. I’m not sure who we’d trust in that spot to do the same.
 
The over reliance w/X has been evident since beginning of the season, it’s slowly built to where it is now.
And now we are giving X more choice routes which pretty much guarantees TVD is not going to look anywhere else.

Teams are now able to shrink the field in coverage knowing that X is the primary. Teams are practically giving us multiple opportunities of 1v1 downfield that we ain’t taking advantage of.

If we could not rely on X so much and mix in more outside tackle runs we would absolutely light it up.
 
sharkindaawater said:
you're one of the smartest posters on here. A lot of respect for you and I know you know what you're talking about but if you don't think tvd forces throws to x and that it has a negative impact on the team you are dead wrong. I don't know football as well as a lot of you, but it is clear as day he is forcing throws to X, not going through his progressions and not reading the field. You are correct a lot of times x stays open, but TVD absolutely forces throws to x when other receivers are wide open. Horton would have walked in end zone but instead he only looked down field to x. It happened probably 5-10 times a game last year. I'm not one of those fans that claims to know everything, I can admit when I'm wrong but no ******* way you can say TVD doesn't force it to X. It is a big problem, and I can almost guarantee whoever takes over for TVD next year will move the ball around better then TVD. Not saying they all turn into INT's, but he's missed so many points to stubbornness and incompetence. He can't read defenses and can't spread the ball around. TVD is not the only problem, but he is a big reason we lost the last two games. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
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This statement right here clearly shows that you are correct in that you don't know everything or anything. X and TVD played 2 games together the entire 2022. All you clowns simply state generalities with no facts. TVD dropped back 48 times Saturday go to the film and find 10 times he ignored the open guy to throw it to X. TVD's worse play of the game was when he should have gone to X in the Flat instead of the curl, which got picked by an unseen LB. GOD YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS **** UP ANYMORE THAN YOU GUYS DO.

Kid is 5th PFF and 8th in QBR but not good enough for you. **** off
Horton would have walked in end zone but instead he only looked down field to x. It happened probably 5-10 times a game last year. I'm not one of those fans that claims to know everything,
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sharkindaawater said:
I personally can't wait till their both gone. They both hold this offense back. Brashard should be taking most of x snaps and TVD is just wasting Miami's time. He's not a winner. TVD and X are holding back this offense. Nobody will agree but we will be better with a QB that actually spreads the ball around and a slot receiver that's actually fast. This season isn't about wining to most people on this board it's about defending TVD and X which is getting harder for a lot of you
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dude you are fking clown. Please tell me how X dropped that pass to end the TAMU game in 2022? Smith is doing great this year and will get more time but stop bashing our team.
 
Cane6 said:
I definitely agree.

I’d like to see more:

RB screens
Passes to TE working mid level
Various WR screens to BSmith, RayRay
RPO

The creativity from Dawson has regressed last 2 games
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you didn't see the screen that went for -2 yards? I agree with the RPO comment.
 
PIPO said:
I recall one miscommunication INT (GT game - throw to George where there was confusion as to which way they each thought they were going. Only they know who was wrong).

The INT into triple coverage to X in the GT game into the End Zone, the other INT to George in GT game and the INT to the UNC linebacker when trying to get the ball to George to me look like all on the QB.

TVD (as I remember being exposed by Florida State and UNC 2 years ago, has trouble throwing into shell coverage by the safeties.

The route concepts by the OC is what should be helping him but when the route concepts suck and the receivers just keep running straight into the coverage, TVD struggles.

So part of it is on all three: TVD, receivers and OC.
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Go back and watch the play again. It was choice route. George had 3 options. stop turn, go instead, go outside. George stopped and turned. When TVD released the ball George then moves to the side line.
 
Cribby said:
X is is also running choice routes , which means he decides the route by coverage. That’s another reason he plays so much and gets so many targets. I’m not sure who we’d trust in that spot to do the same.
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THIS IS THE TRUEST STATEMENT ON THIS BOARD. DEAD ON.
 
rascon said:
The over reliance w/X has been evident since beginning of the season, it’s slowly built to where it is now.
And now we are giving X more choice routes which pretty much guarantees TVD is not going to look anywhere else.

Teams are now able to shrink the field in coverage knowing that X is the primary. Teams are practically giving us multiple opportunities of 1v1 downfield that we ain’t taking advantage of.

If we could not rely on X so much and mix in more outside tackle runs we would absolutely light it up.
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You guys are freaking killing me. do you not watch the fkings games? Lets see, Horton bomb in A&M, George bomb in A&M, X bomb in GT, Young Bomb in GT, George bomb in UNC, Smith bomb in UNC. WAKE UP PEOPLE
 
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jazperbc said:
Go back and watch the play again. It was choice route. George had 3 options. stop turn, go instead, go outside. George stopped and turned. When TVD released the ball George then moves to the side line.
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Yes. It falls in the category of miscommunication.

I don’t blame TVD on that per se, but as I wrote, only they know where the ball should’ve gone.

Likely a receiver mistake.
 
sharkindaawater said:
Top 15 in stats, cool. Look at Miami's record the last three years. I don't care what he ranks he doesn't know how to be a winner or win when it matters.

Valid question. I would start Geroge, Brashard, Horton, have ray ray. colbie, x rotate in every once in a while. Id bench tvd and let emory start getting reps and experience for next year. We know what we have in tvd and x and we haven't won dog ****. It's been time to move on. They'll have great careers in the cfl

I fully blame Mario. He's like an enabling parent.
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Oh My God Omg GIF
 
I don't really care about TVD staring down his target cause this is CFB. Majority of the QBs do it at this level.

The bigger issue is him staring down Xavier when the entire opposing defense is keying on it.

Even on our last offensive possession Colbie Young is wide open on a 12 yard in route and this man TVD STILLLLLL threw it to X.


Oh and BTW, anyone criticizing players without a proper understanding of the system just needs to stfu and stop getting mad that others know more about the game than they do.

Study to show yourself approved and stop whining.
 
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