X had 17 targets?!!

Miami lol I'm just realistic. I am no football guru or know it all, many of you know far more than me but I've always been a Miami from a far for 20 + years. My mom went to Miami so raised me with the canes. I grew up playing hockey, played D1 hockey, played overseas for a couple years so I know the dynamics of a locker room/team chemistry and what it takes to play at a competitive level. Miami will be better off without both of them.
 
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So our record falls squarely on TVD? Not two moron HCs in Manny and Mario? Does it matter at all that TVD has had 3 OCs the last 3 years? Can you point to me the games where TVD was solely at fault for us losing the game?
That's valid. Manny and Mario are responsible as well, but TVD is the QB. The QB has the ball in his hands the most. I would say he can have the most affect on the outcome of the game.
 
Miami lol I'm just realistic. I am no football guru or know it all, many of you know far more than me but I've always been a Miami from a far for 20 + years. My mom went to Miami so raised me with the canes. I grew up playing hockey, played D1 hockey, played overseas for a couple years so I know the dynamics of a locker room/team chemistry and what it takes to play at a competitive level. Miami will be better off without both of them.
I'm learning football is too nuanced for message board discussion. Everyone wants it to be either or instead of acknowledging its a combination. With that being said you are off your rocker if you assume we have a better option for next year. Any confidence we bring in a bonafide QB is just as likely we bring in the backup Stanford QB. QB recruiting is mid so enjoy these TVD lumps. I personally can still remember the previous two decades of QB play and this is far better.
 
Who cares what he projects to at the next level. What matters is what he does here. And for the most part he does plenty for us to win. The fact you are zoned in on blaming TVD and only TVD shows your lack of knowledge as to what has led to our overall losing the last 3 years.
coaching and TVD. I'm not disagreeing coaching has been a big problem. The coaches also can't read the field for tvd. If you turn the ball over 3+ times more than a few times a season and happen to lose those games. well I'd say that's majority his fault. What has he done for Miami since being here besides his own personal accolades? Miami hasn't won an ACC championship or a bowl game. I get what you're saying i just disagree with his success but thats ok to disagree. I can be the crazy wrong one. I just want miami to win, thats all i care about is them wining
 
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It's all on TVD? Every single passing play in football history has been designed with a first-read. This board tells me every second of every day that TVD is incapable of reading a defense, he locks onto his first-read, and throws the ball to that player. So if Restrepo is getting all the targets, but TVD is a single-read guy, it sounds to me like the upset players should be talking to the guy who designs and calls the plays, not the player who just executes them like a robot.
You aren’t supposed to lock onto your first read and stay locked on until he gets open.

You look, read progression and then re-engage on your first read if you have the time.
 
There’s been 4-5 times he’s missed wide open guys and went to X. But even then X is normally open , not always but most times. Teams are keeping safeties deep and we haven’t had anyone else to help X in the middle of the field. Arroyo being fully back should help but the other guys aren’t exactly route technicians and thats what you need when there’s two safeties over the top. Or maybe being able to run the ball.

My biggest issue is X is on the field way too much and that’s one reason he gets so many targets. Between that and st’s makes his usage insane. It’s hard to be fresh when you‘re riding the same guys. I’ve been calling for more BS for almost two seasons , Horton and Ray Ray this year. I personally don’t like the rotation. I’d rather the wealth be spread that way.

Lastly I’ll say this , one area people don’t get is theres miscommunications or wrong routes being ran , but y’all don’t see that. Yiu just see an int, blame the qb. So yeah he thrives to X a tad bit too much but he stays open, catches everything and is trust worthy. Maybe If other guys actually caught the ball they‘d get more targets.
100% that's true. Receivers are running wrong routes, there is miscommunication. I'm sure not every pick has been his fault. Like you said he's just on the field too much getting too many targets for what he really is. BS,ray ray, CJ you put that speed on the field and there's a drastic difference. Just look at BS this past weekend. If you gave him more opportunities like that, he would score more. I hate the rotation and they don't even rotate. They will give BS one snap then back to the bench.

I know everyone is going to call me an idiot and crazy, don't know anything about football etc, some may be true, but TVD is not the elite qb a lot on here have said he was.
 
This **** is really getting so silly.

TVD has thrown 6 picks this year in 6 games, but really it's 5, because the one at the end of the game last week was a Hail Mary situation. How many were when he was targeting Restrepo?

I know for sure 3 were not. The one that almost got returned for a TD against GT definitely was not (was a miscommunication between him and George), the one last week was definitely not, the one against Miami (OH) was I believe George running an over route that got undercut. Were the other 2 against GT both to Restrepo? The one in the first half in the endzone on 3rd and 13 might've been, I can't remember. So at most he's thrown 2 picks in what, almost 200 passes?
are you really trying to justify 6 pics hahahaha. He's thrown 10 picks but actually 2 bc hes the greatest and not all his fault lol coo coo talk
 
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Imo the biggest issue is the snaps X is getting. He’s playing to many especially when he’s being used so much. Thankfully he’s off PR now. We have enough depth to give him a blow. I’d like to see BS , Horton and Ray Ray more. Just as a change up.
I definitely agree.

I’d like to see more:

RB screens
Passes to TE working mid level
Various WR screens to BSmith, RayRay
RPO

The creativity from Dawson has regressed last 2 games
 
It's all on TVD? Every single passing play in football history has been designed with a first-read. This board tells me every second of every day that TVD is incapable of reading a defense, he locks onto his first-read, and throws the ball to that player. So if Restrepo is getting all the targets, but TVD is a single-read guy, it sounds to me like the upset players should be talking to the guy who designs and calls the plays, not the player who just executes them like a robot.
sounds like you don't understand what one read means or how progressions work. Yes, he's one read and only looks at x. the guy who designs the play? the oc and hc can't throw the ball for him or make his reads. Your response actually just proves our point lol . The guy who designs the play does not tell TVD not to go through his reads. What are you smoking
 
I'm learning football is too nuanced for message board discussion. Everyone wants it to be either or instead of acknowledging its a combination. With that being said you are off your rocker if you assume we have a better option for next year. Any confidence we bring in a bonafide QB is just as likely we bring in the backup Stanford QB. QB recruiting is mid so enjoy these TVD lumps. I personally can still remember the previous two decades of QB play and this is far better.
were all off our rocker following Miami and continuing to watch this depressing team for so long. I'm hoping we can get a portal qb. I think Emory or portal qb will be better. That's one crazy man's opinion but i feel confident in that
 
Got **** we have some remedial mfs in this fan base JFC.
I wish OC’s would stop targeting our AA safeties every game giving up easy long td’s . Oh but let’s obsess over X’s targets. Not our DC barely prepping for tempo , barely being able to get subs and plays in. Or guys and coaches saying ” they got tired “ . Or maybe our OL allowing 19 hits on the qb and not opening holes in the run game for two games. Let’s talk the same nauseating bs. This place is hilarious. X is the one leader and top player that’s been **** near perfect this year. Showed up every game.
 
If X is the first read and he’s open he’ll always get the ball that’s not changing. However, we had moments where that 2nd/3rd read is actually beats that zone for a big play. you also can’t complain because X was open too. TVD isn’t identifying the zone correctly post snap. Dawson could change the progression to high to low.
 
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Yet we were a fumble on the six inch line from scoring 38.

Again, I honestly can’t believe this place sometimes.
I love you but this program has been one or two or three BIG “IF’s” on the field, recruiting trail and coaching staff for 20+ **** years.

I want to be optimistic. I want them to win just like mostly everyone here.

None of these kids have grown up with Miami winning nor having good coaching. The one guy I hope can fix that is Mario and man, he should be further along than he is (yes, GT loss is a big ******* deal) because many are felling a lot differently “IF” the team is 5-1 vs 4-2.
 
If X is the first read and he’s open he’ll always get the ball that’s not changing. However, we had moments where that 2nd/3rd read is actually beats that zone for a big play. you also can’t complain because X was open too. TVD isn’t identifying the zone correctly post snap. Dawson could change the progression to high to low.
Defenses will eventually take that away. That’s why Arroyo being 100 % back is huge.
 
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