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Wyche started at a JUCO then left mid season to go home to take care of his mom. Then he went back a year later to another juco so he has burned alot of his eligibility clock since leaving high school so technically he is a senior and UM will have to apply for a waiver to get a 5th year in 2015. USC was telling him they seem him as a 1 and done type juco talent if he arrived mid year to go through a spring S&C program.

Being out of shape affects your technique greatly, not to mention he has not had to play in such a disciplined defensive scheme so that is also causing him to think more than play.

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Wyche has played poorly but the deeper problem is that a competent 3-4 nose tackle is extremely rare. Not only is it the most physically demanding position in football, but you need to be a massive, athletic man who can clog up the middle. The words "massive", "athletic" and "physically fit" are usually not found in the same sentence much less found in the same person. That is why the 4-3 was devised - there is a larger subset of humans that can be a competent 4-3 tackle.
 
Gransapo said:
Wyche has played poorly but the deeper problem is that a competent 3-4 nose tackle is extremely rare. Not only is it the most physically demanding position in football, but you need to be a massive, athletic man who can clog up the middle. The words "massive", "athletic" and "physically fit" are usually not found in the same sentence much less found in the same person. That is why the 4-3 was devised - there is a larger subset of humans that can be a competent 4-3 tackle.
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Why does Bama, Miss St, FSU, and Wisconsin seem to pluck them out of the air. These guys are out there, they are just not highly ranked or publicized, but rather staff has to beat the bushes for them. An also admissions needs to work with staff when we find them. An you need a few them in rotation to be effective for the season.

For instance UM commit Ryan Fines will be a good one. An if we can add 2015 DT Kendrick Norton he is load in the middle an is ideal for UM's scheme right now as senior in high school.

Then there is 2015 DT David Ryslik ( the #1 DT in New Jersey#) whom UM is slow playing that would commit if given a commitable offer. The kid has a 15 minute mid senior year highlight. These are the types of big bodied kids that UM needs not JUCO's.

Ryslik mid-Sr Year highlights
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/831404/highlights/161072378

So the players are out there, it is just for UM to go get them.

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We put our defensive players in impossible situations to succeed. What we ask out of our DL is extremely difficult to do at the college level. Similar to what we ask our CBs to do and our LBs for that matter.

For me, I have a hard time blaming players when they don't live up to their potential.
 
Paranos said:
Wyche started at a JUCO then left mid season to go home to take care of his mom. Then he went back a year later to another juco so he has burned alot of his eligibility clock since leaving high school so technically he is a senior and UM will have to apply for a waiver to get a 5th year in 2015. USC was telling him they seem him as a 1 and done type juco talent if he arrived mid year to go through a spring S&C program.

Being out of shape affects your technique greatly, not to mention he has not had to play in such a disciplined defensive scheme so that is also causing him to think more than play.

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Being out of shape is on him. How the **** do you not stay in shape if you want to be a D1 athlete? **** boggles my mind.
 
DiegoCane said:
We put our defensive players in impossible situations to succeed. What we ask out of our DL is extremely difficult to do at the college level. Similar to what we ask our CBs to do and our LBs for that matter.

For me, I have a hard time blaming players when they don't live up to their potential.
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excuses, excuses. if they can't hack it, next man up.
 
Chad Thomas was basically a starter he played so much. He was the one who gave up contain on that scramble play when the qb found that tightend or fullback what ever he is down the sideline.
 
They need to take wyche scholarship away and send him packing hopefully to biggest "looser" watching his lard *** get pushed 7 years down field was beyond infuriating...........
 
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orange&green said:
DiegoCane said:
We put our defensive players in impossible situations to succeed. What we ask out of our DL is extremely difficult to do at the college level. Similar to what we ask our CBs to do and our LBs for that matter.

For me, I have a hard time blaming players when they don't live up to their potential.
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excuses, excuses. if they can't hack it, next man up.
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Who exactly is hacking it on the DL?

We have 6 sacks and 12 TFLs by our DL the whole year (this is counting McCord and Harris).
 
Pennmed Canefan said:
I didnt watch him specifically but I'm wondering from the tenor of this thread how we had any success. Somebody in the middle of this defense mustve done something right since they couldnt do a whole lot against us.
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It's funny cause he wasn't as bad as people are making him out to be and the defense had the most success when he was in. He definitely wasn't getting pushed back.
Yes he looked a step slow but I attribute that to inexperience playing this defense and being some extra pounds overweight..

But kid is a load and once he figures things out on defense and gets down to an ideal playing weight he will be an asset for this defense.
 
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CaneAlmighty said:
Pennmed Canefan said:
I didnt watch him specifically but I'm wondering from the tenor of this thread how we had any success. Somebody in the middle of this defense mustve done something right since they couldnt do a whole lot against us.
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It's funny cause he wasn't as bad as people are making him out to be and the defense had the most success when he was in. He definitely wasn't getting pushed back.
Yes he looked a step slow but I attribute that to inexperience playing this defense and being some extra pounds overweight..

But kid is a load and once he figures things out on defense and gets down to an ideal playing weight he will be an asset for this defense.
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We were definitely watching a different game.
 
AUcane said:
Those plays you saw him get pushed back several yards was due to 2 things - the defensive call and getting double teamed. The defensive call on a lot of those runs where we are getting pushed back calls for the DL to slant in and run parallel to the LOS. It's virtually impossible not to get pushed back a bit in that. When it was straight one on one in the run game or even pass game, I thought he actually did pretty decent.
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Excellent post .His job was to push the runs out of the middle .He did just that. He will get better but alot of people dont know what they are talking about. He did get doubled teamed several times.
 
Consigliere said:
Dingaan1828 said:
The fact that the ACC prevented him from coming in early hurt him very badly. So, he comes in out of shape and over weight. He lost too much weight too quickly and he's paying for it now. Let's hope an off-season can fix him. It might.
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Doesn't answer the question.

We all know he is not prepared and out of shape. If he has potential and can't contribute in 2014, why not redshirt him?
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Because he has 2 to play 2 apparently.
 
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