Worse power 5 coaches than Shannon and golden

[Orangebowl]

Zook, John Blake.

Zook is better than Golden and Shannon but Blake is clearly worse. But it still is depressing that you have to go all the way to the late 90's to find some of these examples of clearly worse coaches.

 

[Moro]

Actually Shannon is a better coach than what you are putting out there. He excelled at each position he coached as an assistant and DC. He was one of the top available hires as a DC in the country before getting the HC position at Miami. After only receiving a 4 yr contract for 4 mil and nothing to pay Top Tier OC's and DC's, today one wouldn't be surprised by the results. But one would have to assume the success he would have had if given the money to hire coordinators. Randy consistently brought in recruiting classes ranked in the top 25. Three members of his second recruiting class—Marcus Forston, Marcus Robinson, and Sean Spence—were recognized by College Football News as freshman All-Americans.

On January 5, 2015, the University of Florida announced that the Florida Gators' new head coach Jim McElwain had hired Shannon as the Gators' associate head coach, co-defensive coordinator and linebackers coach. McElwain stated that Shannon was at the top of his list for potential assistants, and media sports commentators opined that Shannon would be a significant recruiting asset for McElwain and the Gators.

Today we can admit that the last regime failed to develop the talent on those teams. Some day we will also admit that the Administration failed to pay for qualified Coordinators and Assistants so that Shannon could succeed. Truth be told, the Administration contributed a lot more money for Golden to be successful.

That's a flatout exaggeration, it was well known how many bridges shannon burnt during his recruiting days in miami and i'd challenge to look at his body of work regarding camps and not laugh. He'll get a few kids because he's from SFL and because he's a black coach (see teddy bridgewater) but he wouldn't even rank in the top 20 of coaches who recruit SFL.

There are no excuses for Randy he's a decent position coach and coordinator but he's not a HC at all. Name 1 thing he excelled at as a HC....or better yet name one coordinator under shannon that excelled. Part of a HC's job and contract negotiations is to inspire the Admin to spend on quality support staff, with the money he was given he could've at least afforded 1-2 solid hires. He was terrible at player development, terrible at recruiting (don't even mention his 1st class which was 80% failure), terrible at motivating players (see randy shannons doghouse), terrible at game management, and terrible at roster management (see the roster golden inherited).




And then there was the last game in orange bowl vs UVA....

I've never understood why some people think Shannon was unfairly fired or was any better than Golden. Honestly I consider Shannon to be somewhat worse than Golden since he inherited a program that had gone 71-16 in the 7 years before his hiring. I'm not sure I can buy into the idea of inheriting a program that had gone .816 in the previous 7 years being difficult even if the previous year's record had been 7-6. Rebuilding a program that's been awful for 5 years (Golden's problem) seems considerably tougher than rebuilding one that's been awful for 1 year (Shannon's problem.)

It's not surprising that you never understood considering you never understood why anyone would think Strong is any better than Golden even after the evidence proves it. And part of the reason you don't understand why some people would think Shannon was unfairly fired is because in this case I never said that. After all, you simply just don't understand.

 

[losdogcane]

Most of you are to young, but Gerry Faust from Notre Dame in the early 80s was as bad as bad can get.

 

[Dirty Sprite]

I'll take Golden over Mike London and Randy Edsall, like I've said in another thread.

U must still admire the way he talks huh?

I admire that he was able to win more games than both of those coaches, and I really hate Edsall almost as much as I hate Paul Williams

Win more? He was gifted a job at UM he was going to "win" more by default. How are they eve comparable?

No coach would have done as woat a job as Golden did with this program. How many "1st UM coach in history" fail moments has Golden managed to accomplish here? But keep comparing a HC at UVa and Maryland to one at Miami, seems legit.

 

[sebastiansbill]

Most of you are to young, but Gerry Faust from Notre Dame in the early 80s was as bad as bad can get.

I think the OP wanted to focus on more recent coaches. But Faust is worse at coaching than anybody we had. But there was one thing Faust was fantastic at, which was whining and crying after losing 58-7. I will never forget that remarkable whining job he and everybody else affiliated with ND did. And some announcers who weren't even ND fans participated in the whining job too.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

This dude said Charlie Strong, a coach that beat Florida in the Sugar Bowl / beat Baylor and Oklahoma last year, is worse than Golden lol

He beat Baylor because Baylor was playing with their 4th string QB who was a converted wide receiver. Once Art Briles finally realized you can't pass under those circumstances Baylor nearly overcame a 20 point deficit to win that game. Not an impressive win for UT in the least. He's 11-14 at Texas and would be 10-15 if he hadn't totally lucked out with the Baylor QB injury. He only got to the Sugar Bowl because of Terry Bridgewater and the coach he beat in the Sugar Bowl was Will Muschamp. Wow.

Until Charlie Strong can at least get his record at UT over .500 I'll view him as worse than Golden.

There is no way you can argue that Al is better than Strong. Dude has accomplished more at UT than Al ever did and Strong's tenure has been putrid. You discredit his victory against Baylor but didn't they demolish UNC in the bowl? And dude beat OU last year. There is no way you can defend Al anymore.

Maybe not worse than Golden but I agree that there's not a lot to suggest Strong is any better. Golden actually had a winning record. I'm not sure how much credit you can give for beating a team with all the QB injuries that Baylor had, no matter how good Baylor was when they had a healthy QB. Strong deserves credit for beating OU but that's it. He also got shut out vs Iowa State. Sure Golden got shut out vs Clemson but not friggin 3-9 Iowa State. Or even the 9-4 KSU team Strong got shut out by in 2014.

But that same Baylor team dominated the coastal champions UNC. The same UNC that dominated us. You can't discredit that victory when in that state Baylor still beat a top 10 team. UT is wreck. Al inherited an NFL talent laden team and still lost to a 2 win Maryland and BC squad in 11 (got an extension while getting beat silly against BC). You can't make this up. Strong's resume at UL alone is better thsn Al's and although his UT tenure has started off rough its still more impressive than Al's entire resume.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

Actually Shannon is a better coach than what you are putting out there. He excelled at each position he coached as an assistant and DC. He was one of the top available hires as a DC in the country before getting the HC position at Miami. After only receiving a 4 yr contract for 4 mil and nothing to pay Top Tier OC's and DC's, today one wouldn't be surprised by the results. But one would have to assume the success he would have had if given the money to hire coordinators. Randy consistently brought in recruiting classes ranked in the top 25. Three members of his second recruiting class—Marcus Forston, Marcus Robinson, and Sean Spence—were recognized by College Football News as freshman All-Americans.

On January 5, 2015, the University of Florida announced that the Florida Gators' new head coach Jim McElwain had hired Shannon as the Gators' associate head coach, co-defensive coordinator and linebackers coach. McElwain stated that Shannon was at the top of his list for potential assistants, and media sports commentators opined that Shannon would be a significant recruiting asset for McElwain and the Gators.

Today we can admit that the last regime failed to develop the talent on those teams. Some day we will also admit that the Administration failed to pay for qualified Coordinators and Assistants so that Shannon could succeed. Truth be told, the Administration contributed a lot more money for Golden to be successful.

That's a flatout exaggeration, it was well known how many bridges shannon burnt during his recruiting days in miami and i'd challenge to look at his body of work regarding camps and not laugh. He'll get a few kids because he's from SFL and because he's a black coach (see teddy bridgewater) but he wouldn't even rank in the top 20 of coaches who recruit SFL.

There are no excuses for Randy he's a decent position coach and coordinator but he's not a HC at all. Name 1 thing he excelled at as a HC....or better yet name one coordinator under shannon that excelled. Part of a HC's job and contract negotiations is to inspire the Admin to spend on quality support staff, with the money he was given he could've at least afforded 1-2 solid hires. He was terrible at player development, terrible at recruiting (don't even mention his 1st class which was 80% failure), terrible at motivating players (see randy shannons doghouse), terrible at game management, and terrible at roster management (see the roster golden inherited).




And then there was the last game in orange bowl vs UVA....

I've never understood why some people think Shannon was unfairly fired or was any better than Golden. Honestly I consider Shannon to be somewhat worse than Golden since he inherited a program that had gone 71-16 in the 7 years before his hiring. I'm not sure I can buy into the idea of inheriting a program that had gone .816 in the previous 7 years being difficult even if the previous year's record had been 7-6. Rebuilding a program that's been awful for 5 years (Golden's problem) seems considerably tougher than rebuilding one that's been awful for 1 year (Shannon's problem.)

It's not surprising that you never understood considering you never understood why anyone would think Strong is any better than Golden even after the evidence proves it. And part of the reason you don't understand why some people would think Shannon was unfairly fired is because in this case I never said that. After all, you simply just don't understand.

Our punter was like number 4 on the wide out depth chart in 07. We had 2 qbs one couldn't throw past 10 yards. He only had 1 legit running back in 07. We won 5 games and lost like 3 or 4 by 14 points or less. That was only because RS' defense was the saving grace. The team Shannon inherited was in terrible shape. We have seen through the drafts that Al had nfl talent and still squandered it.

 

[pumbaa]

Edsall

 

[mjl7atlas]

I think swamp donkey at UF is going to turn out to be an incredible bust for them

 

[Moro]

I think swamp donkey at UF is going to turn out to be an incredible bust for them

It really doesn't matter what you think. The consensus of the coaching world respects Shannon's coaching, recruiting and defense. What are they saying about Golden and D'not? Richt shakes his head every time Golden boys name is mentioned.

 

[cflacane2]

I think swamp donkey at UF is going to turn out to be an incredible bust for them

It really doesn't matter what you think. The consensus of the coaching world respects Shannon's coaching, recruiting and defense. What are they saying about Golden and D'not? Richt shakes his head every time Golden boys name is mentioned.

Coaches who lack ties to SFL hire the randy shannons of the world as recruiting rentals. Gary patterson whos a real HC bounced his *** after only 5 months. Only the desperate ones keep him around.

 

[Moro]

I think swamp donkey at UF is going to turn out to be an incredible bust for them

It really doesn't matter what you think. The consensus of the coaching world respects Shannon's coaching, recruiting and defense. What are they saying about Golden and D'not? Richt shakes his head every time Golden boys name is mentioned.

Coaches who lack ties to SFL hire the randy shannons of the world as recruiting rentals. Gary patterson whos a real HC bounced his *** after only 5 months. Only the desperate ones keep him around.

You guys are reaching... McElwain didn't need Shannon to recruit SFL no more than FSU needed Jimbo Fisher to recruit SFL. It's not like Miami has SFL on lock. Get a grip those schools recruit themselves. What you guys don't get is there are only a few people that really have the ability to evaluate talent. When I say that I'm talking about when the obvious talents are off the board and/or not choosing your school you need to know how to evaluate talent to screen those lesser tier players. Shannon excels at that look at Allen Hurns today. Now refer to Richt's comments this spring, how well did Golden fare with lesser tier talent remember he got Coley from FSU who was a top recruiter in SFL?

 

[Golsen82]

Bret Beliema

 

[cflacane2]

I think swamp donkey at UF is going to turn out to be an incredible bust for them

It really doesn't matter what you think. The consensus of the coaching world respects Shannon's coaching, recruiting and defense. What are they saying about Golden and D'not? Richt shakes his head every time Golden boys name is mentioned.

Coaches who lack ties to SFL hire the randy shannons of the world as recruiting rentals. Gary patterson whos a real HC bounced his *** after only 5 months. Only the desperate ones keep him around.

You guys are reaching... McElwain didn't need Shannon to recruit SFL no more than FSU needed Jimbo Fisher to recruit SFL. It's not like Miami has SFL on lock. Get a grip those schools recruit themselves. What you guys don't get is there are only a few people that really have the ability to evaluate talent. When I say that I'm talking about when the obvious talents are off the board and/or not choosing your school you need to know how to evaluate talent to screen those lesser tier players. Shannon excels at that look at Allen Hurns today. Now refer to Richt's comments this spring, how well did Golden fare with lesser tier talent remember he got Coley from FSU who was a top recruiter in SFL?

U mean like playing ray ray out of position and having shield plays wr?

 

[Moro]

I think swamp donkey at UF is going to turn out to be an incredible bust for them

It really doesn't matter what you think. The consensus of the coaching world respects Shannon's coaching, recruiting and defense. What are they saying about Golden and D'not? Richt shakes his head every time Golden boys name is mentioned.

Coaches who lack ties to SFL hire the randy shannons of the world as recruiting rentals. Gary patterson whos a real HC bounced his *** after only 5 months. Only the desperate ones keep him around.

You guys are reaching... McElwain didn't need Shannon to recruit SFL no more than FSU needed Jimbo Fisher to recruit SFL. It's not like Miami has SFL on lock. Get a grip those schools recruit themselves. What you guys don't get is there are only a few people that really have the ability to evaluate talent. When I say that I'm talking about when the obvious talents are off the board and/or not choosing your school you need to know how to evaluate talent to screen those lesser tier players. Shannon excels at that look at Allen Hurns today. Now refer to Richt's comments this spring, how well did Golden fare with lesser tier talent remember he got Coley from FSU who was a top recruiter in SFL?

U mean like playing ray ray out of position and having shield plays wr?

Yes. The talent was so great for each of those players that they could play out of position during years where the team was thin at other positions. The talent was so great that both still made it to the league. Now, refer to Richts comments this Spring, he isn't quit sure that their is a safety that can play out of position. He pretty much said the summer couldn't get here fast enough so that he can try to find one within the new class of freshmen. The point is Golden and staff couldn't and didn't recruit talent that could play out of position let alone play on this level the position which they were recruited to play.

 

[cflacane2]

It really doesn't matter what you think. The consensus of the coaching world respects Shannon's coaching, recruiting and defense. What are they saying about Golden and D'not? Richt shakes his head every time Golden boys name is mentioned.

Coaches who lack ties to SFL hire the randy shannons of the world as recruiting rentals. Gary patterson whos a real HC bounced his *** after only 5 months. Only the desperate ones keep him around.

You guys are reaching... McElwain didn't need Shannon to recruit SFL no more than FSU needed Jimbo Fisher to recruit SFL. It's not like Miami has SFL on lock. Get a grip those schools recruit themselves. What you guys don't get is there are only a few people that really have the ability to evaluate talent. When I say that I'm talking about when the obvious talents are off the board and/or not choosing your school you need to know how to evaluate talent to screen those lesser tier players. Shannon excels at that look at Allen Hurns today. Now refer to Richt's comments this spring, how well did Golden fare with lesser tier talent remember he got Coley from FSU who was a top recruiter in SFL?

U mean like playing ray ray out of position and having shield plays wr?

Yes. The talent was so great for each of those players that they could play out of position during years where the team was thin at other positions. The talent was so great that both still made it to the league. Now, refer to Richts comments this Spring, he isn't quit sure that their is a safety that can play out of position. He pretty much said the summer couldn't get here fast enough so that he can try to find one within the new class of freshmen.

Just curios are you actually tickling randys balls right now or nah? Ray ray was a mediocre safety at best and sheields sucked at wr.....he wasted their talents

 

[Moro]

Coaches who lack ties to SFL hire the randy shannons of the world as recruiting rentals. Gary patterson whos a real HC bounced his *** after only 5 months. Only the desperate ones keep him around.

You guys are reaching... McElwain didn't need Shannon to recruit SFL no more than FSU needed Jimbo Fisher to recruit SFL. It's not like Miami has SFL on lock. Get a grip those schools recruit themselves. What you guys don't get is there are only a few people that really have the ability to evaluate talent. When I say that I'm talking about when the obvious talents are off the board and/or not choosing your school you need to know how to evaluate talent to screen those lesser tier players. Shannon excels at that look at Allen Hurns today. Now refer to Richt's comments this spring, how well did Golden fare with lesser tier talent remember he got Coley from FSU who was a top recruiter in SFL?

U mean like playing ray ray out of position and having shield plays wr?

Yes. The talent was so great for each of those players that they could play out of position during years where the team was thin at other positions. The talent was so great that both still made it to the league. Now, refer to Richts comments this Spring, he isn't quit sure that their is a safety that can play out of position. He pretty much said the summer couldn't get here fast enough so that he can try to find one within the new class of freshmen.

Just curios are you actually tickling randys balls right now or nah? Ray ray was a mediocre safety at best and sheields sucked at wr.....he wasted their talents

Miss Thang, I'm not into that. What you do in your personal life is your business so you can be curios about all the balls you like...

Wasted talents???

As a freshman with the Miami Hurricanes in 2009, Armstrong played in 10 games, recording 14 tackles. As a sophomore in 2010 Armstrong took over as a starter and has 66 tackles, three interceptions and a touchdown in 11 games.

On July 18, 2012, Armstrong was dismissed from the Hurricanes football team for being dishonest during an internal investigation.

Second-team All-ACC (2010)
Armstrong been in the league 2013-Present

Shields ultimately decided to play at Miami, where he started in seven games out of 13 and played during the others during his freshman year in 2006. Shields had 37 receptions, which was the most by a Miami true freshman since Reggie Wayne in 1997. During his first start against Louisville, he caught three passes for 63 yards including a reception for 49 yards. His first touchdown pass came on a trick play when he caught a 37-yard pass from safety Lovon Ponder versus the North Carolina Tarheels. Shields also had the only two touchdown game of his career against Duke University. Miami was given a bowl bid to the MPC Computers Bowl against Nevada. In the bowl, Shields had four receptions for 101 yards and caught a 78-yard touchdown pass to win the game. His performance earned him a spot as an honorable mention All-American on the freshman team by Sporting News. He was also named a selection to the 2006 Atlantic Coast Conference Academic Football Team.

During his sophomore season, Shields started five of the ten games that he participated in. On September 20, 2007 in a game against the Texas A&M Aggies, Shields had a career high 117 yards coming off six receptions. Shields stated to win the game that his team had to trust each other, come out, play hard, and win." He finished the season with 27 receptions for 346 yards and three touchdowns.
Shields saw an increase in playing time and played in all 13 games during his junior year either as a receiver or on special teams. He had a season high three catches for 32 yards against the Virginia Cavaliers. Shields was also voted Miami's special teams players of the year.

During his final season with the Hurricanes, Shields switched positions from wide receiver to cornerback. During a game against Georgia Tech, he had six tackles. Continuing on in a game between Wake Forest, Shields posted a career high seven tackles as well as a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. He received the Nich Chickillo most improved player award at Miami's award banquet
• Pro Bowl (2014)
• Super Bowl Champion (XLV)
• NFC Champion (2010)
• Led Green Bay Packers team in int's. & passes defended (2013)

Green Bay Packers (2010–present)

He didn’t waste their talents. He did what was best for the team and still put them in position to play on the next level which is what they accomplished.

 

[cflacane2]

I think swamp donkey at UF is going to turn out to be an incredible bust for them

It really doesn't matter what you think. The consensus of the coaching world respects Shannon's coaching, recruiting and defense. What are they saying about Golden and D'not? Richt shakes his head every time Golden boys name is mentioned.

Coaches who lack ties to SFL hire the randy shannons of the world as recruiting rentals. Gary patterson whos a real HC bounced his *** after only 5 months. Only the desperate ones keep him around.

When I say that I'm talking about when the obvious talents are off the board and/or not choosing your school you need to know how to evaluate talent to screen those lesser tier players. Shannon excels at that look at

I only a included a few of the borderline wasted scholarships here, i count 34 in 3 years...pretty solid at evaluating talent right?
2008
Aldarius Johnson
CJ Holton
Davon Johnson
Jeremy Lewis
Gavin Hardin
Andrew Smith
Zack Kane
2009
Dyron Dye
Curtis Porter
Billy Sanders
Cory White
AJ Highsmith
Jared Wheeler
Steven Plein
2010
Eduardo Clements
Kacy Rodger
Tavadis GLenn
David Perry
Keon Payne
Travis Williams
Kevin Nelson
Darion Hall
Jeremy Davis
Devonta Davis
Andrew Tallman
Jeffrey Brown
Kelvin Cain
Taylor Cook
Thearon Collier
Joe Wylie
Antonio Harper
Brandon Marti
Kendall Thompkins
Cannon Smith
CJ odom

 

[cflacane2]

You guys are reaching... McElwain didn't need Shannon to recruit SFL no more than FSU needed Jimbo Fisher to recruit SFL. It's not like Miami has SFL on lock. Get a grip those schools recruit themselves. What you guys don't get is there are only a few people that really have the ability to evaluate talent. When I say that I'm talking about when the obvious talents are off the board and/or not choosing your school you need to know how to evaluate talent to screen those lesser tier players. Shannon excels at that look at Allen Hurns today. Now refer to Richt's comments this spring, how well did Golden fare with lesser tier talent remember he got Coley from FSU who was a top recruiter in SFL?

U mean like playing ray ray out of position and having shield plays wr?

Yes. The talent was so great for each of those players that they could play out of position during years where the team was thin at other positions. The talent was so great that both still made it to the league. Now, refer to Richts comments this Spring, he isn't quit sure that their is a safety that can play out of position. He pretty much said the summer couldn't get here fast enough so that he can try to find one within the new class of freshmen.

Just curios are you actually tickling randys balls right now or nah? Ray ray was a mediocre safety at best and sheields sucked at wr.....he wasted their talents

Miss Thang, I'm not into that. What you do in your personal life is your business so you can be curios about all the balls you like...

Wasted talents???

As a freshman with the Miami Hurricanes in 2009, Armstrong played in 10 games, recording 14 tackles. As a sophomore in 2010 Armstrong took over as a starter and has 66 tackles, three interceptions and a touchdown in 11 games.

On July 18, 2012, Armstrong was dismissed from the Hurricanes football team for being dishonest during an internal investigation.

Armstrong been in the league 2013-Present

Shields ultimately decided to play at Miami, where he started in seven games out of 13 and played during the others during his freshman year in 2006. Shields had 37 receptions, which was the most by a Miami true freshman since Reggie Wayne in 1997. During his first start against Louisville, he caught three passes for 63 yards including a reception for 49 yards. His first touchdown pass came on a trick play when he caught a 37-yard pass from safety Lovon Ponder versus the North Carolina Tarheels. Shields also had the only two touchdown game of his career against Duke University. Miami was given a bowl bid to the MPC Computers Bowl against Nevada. In the bowl, Shields had four receptions for 101 yards and caught a 78-yard touchdown pass to win the game. His performance earned him a spot as an honorable mention All-American on the freshman team by Sporting News. He was also named a selection to the 2006 Atlantic Coast Conference Academic Football Team.

During his sophomore season, Shields started five of the ten games that he participated in. On September 20, 2007 in a game against the Texas A&M Aggies, Shields had a career high 117 yards coming off six receptions. Shields stated to win the game that his team had to trust each other, come out, play hard, and win." He finished the season with 27 receptions for 346 yards and three touchdowns.
Shields saw an increase in playing time and played in all 13 games during his junior year either as a receiver or on special teams. He had a season high three catches for 32 yards against the Virginia Cavaliers. Shields was also voted Miami's special teams players of the year.

During his final season with the Hurricanes, Shields switched positions from wide receiver to cornerback. During a game against Georgia Tech, he had six tackles. Continuing on in a game between Wake Forest, Shields posted a career high seven tackles as well as a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. He received the Nich Chickillo most improved player award at Miami's award banquet
• Pro Bowl (2014)
• Super Bowl Champion (XLV)
• NFC Champion (2010)
• Led Green Bay Packers team in int's. & passes defended (2013)

Green Bay Packers (2010–present)

He didn’t waste their talents. He did what was best for the team and still put them in position to play on the next level which is what they accomplished.

False, Golden saved Shields career by moving him to CB, might've been goldens only good personell decision.

 

[Moro]

I think swamp donkey at UF is going to turn out to be an incredible bust for them

It really doesn't matter what you think. The consensus of the coaching world respects Shannon's coaching, recruiting and defense. What are they saying about Golden and D'not? Richt shakes his head every time Golden boys name is mentioned.

Coaches who lack ties to SFL hire the randy shannons of the world as recruiting rentals. Gary patterson whos a real HC bounced his *** after only 5 months. Only the desperate ones keep him around.

When I say that I'm talking about when the obvious talents are off the board and/or not choosing your school you need to know how to evaluate talent to screen those lesser tier players. Shannon excels at that look at

I only a included a few of the borderline wasted scholarships here, i count 34 in 3 years...pretty solid at evaluating talent right?
2008
Aldarius Johnson
CJ Holton
Davon Johnson
Jeremy Lewis
Gavin Hardin
Andrew Smith
Zack Kane
2009
Dyron Dye
Curtis Porter
Billy Sanders
Cory White
AJ Highsmith
Jared Wheeler
Steven Plein
2010
Eduardo Clements
Kacy Rodger
Tavadis GLenn
David Perry
Keon Payne
Travis Williams
Kevin Nelson
Darion Hall
Jeremy Davis
Devonta Davis
Andrew Tallman
Jeffrey Brown
Kelvin Cain
Taylor Cook
Thearon Collier
Joe Wylie
Antonio Harper
Brandon Marti
Kendall Thompkins
Cannon Smith
CJ odom

Now how many do you count from Golden's classes? Be sure to count the ones Richt dismissed during weight training, remember he saw enough that they couldn't stick around long enough for Spring training. Don't forget the phone calls to the recruits that he offered scholarships to that Richt personally called and told them to look else where, don't even bother coming for a on campus visit. ****, take a snapshot of the current roster which Richt referred to as slow and lacking talent to play at Miami soon it will be the last time you see those names.