Wisconsin 5th in the Nation in Defensive yards per play

[Canesfan43]

Aranda can coach. 44th average recruiting ranking over last 4 years for Wisconsin.

Every college football team's updated 4-year recruiting rank, led by you-know-who - SBNation.com

National rank Conference rank School Four-year Movement vs. prev. avg.
1 SEC 1 Alabama 1 =
2 Big Ten 1 Ohio State 4 ↓
3 ACC 1 Florida State 5 ↑
4 SEC 2 LSU 6.5 ↑
5 Pac-12 1 USC 8.5 ↑
6 SEC 3 Georgia 9.25 ↓
6 SEC 3 Florida 9.25 ↓
8 SEC 5 Auburn 9.75 ↑
9 SEC 6 Texas A&M 10.5 ↑
10 Big 12 1 Texas 11.75 ↓
10 Notre Dame 11.75 ↓
12 Pac-12 2 UCLA 12.5 ↑
13 SEC 7 Tennessee 13.75 ↑
14 ACC 2 Clemson 14 ↑
15 Big 12 2 Oklahoma 14.25 ↓
16 ACC 3 Miami 15.5 ↓
17 Big Ten 2 Michigan 17 ↓
18 Pac-12 3 Oregon 17.5 ↑
19 SEC 8 South Carolina 18.25 ↓
SEC average 18.76
20 SEC 9 Ole Miss 21.75 ↓
21 Pac-12 4 Stanford 23.75 ↑
22 ACC 4 Virginia Tech 24.5 ↓
23 SEC 10 Mississippi State 25.75 ↑
23 SEC 10 Arkansas 25.75 ↑
25 Pac-12 5 Washington 26.25 ↓
26 Big Ten 3 Penn State 29 ↑
26 Big 12 3 Baylor 29 ↓
28 Big Ten 4 Michigan State 29.25 ↑
29 Big Ten 5 Nebraska 29.75 ↓
30 Pac-12 6 Arizona State 30.25 ↑
31 ACC 5 North Carolina 31.75 ↑
32 Big 12 4 Oklahoma State 33 ↓
33 ACC 6 Virginia 33.25 ↓
34 SEC 12 Missouri 34.5 ↑
35 Big 12 5 West Virginia 34.75 ↑

Pac-12 average 34.88
36 Big 12 6 Texas Tech 36 ↓
37 SEC 13 Kentucky 36.25 ↓
38 Big 12 7 TCU 36.75 ↓
39 Pac-12 7 California 37.5 ↓


Big 12 average 38.33


ACC average 40.16
40 SEC 14 Vanderbilt 40.5 ↓
41 Pac-12 8 Arizona 41 ↑

Big Ten average 41.05
42 ACC 7 Louisville 41.5 ↑
43 Big Ten 6 Maryland 42 ↓
44 Big Ten 7 Wisconsin 42.5 ↑
45 ACC 8 NC State 44.25 ↑
46 ACC 9 Pittsburgh 45 ↓
47 Pac-12 9 Utah 47.25 ↑
48 Big Ten 8 Rutgers 48 ↓
49 Big Ten 9 Indiana 49.75 =
50 Big Ten 10 Northwestern 51.25 ↑

 

[Dwinstitles]

How many spread offenses they play?

 

[The Svengali]

Look at the schedule and the offenses Wiscy is lining up against week in and week out.

Would that defense hold up in the Big 12, for example?

I am not saying Aranda can't coach, but you need to look at the opponents as well---a large sample size against high powered offenses. I think Wisconsin's defensive rankings are skewed against the level of competition they face on offense. Can it hold up against spread teams? Personally, I don't think so

Last year, for example, Ohio state DISMANTLED that Aranda coached defense, 59-0. That was ugly.

And now the ACC is filled with spread offenses. VT (5 wide under it's new coach); Clemson, Louisville, UVA (under it's new coach) and UNC are all spread offenses. Plus, we play FSU, which is pro style, but it's high powered.

We need a big time DC that can install defense that creates havoc, punish defenses, and get to the QB. We have the athletes in S. Florida to do it

 

[jerzeycane]

Look at the schedule and the offenses Wiscy is lining up against week in and week out.

Would that defense hold up in the Big 12, for example?

I am not saying Aranda can't coach, but you need to look at the opponents as well---a large sample size against high powered offenses. I think Wisconsin's defensive rankings are skewed against the level of competition they face on offense.

Last year, Ohio state DISMANTLED that Aranda coached defense. It was ugly. 51-3, I believe

And now the ACC is filled with spread offenses. VT (5 wide under it's new coach); Clemson, Louisville, UVA (under it's new coach) and UNC are all spread offenses. Plus, we play FSU, which is pro style, but it's high powered.

We need a big time DC that can install defense that creates havoc, punish defenses, and get to the QB. We have the athletes in S. Florida to do it

Not concerned with his defense holding up in the Big 12.

I want it to hold up in the coastal and hold up against the best teams in the country.

If you supplement this man's defensive scheme with the best athletes in the country, it's gonna be epic

 

[Canesfan43]

Look at the schedule and the offenses Wiscy is lining up against week in and week out.

Would that defense hold up in the Big 12, for example?

I am not saying Aranda can't coach, but you need to look at the opponents as well---a large sample size against high powered offenses. I think Wisconsin's defensive rankings are skewed against the level of competition they face on offense. Can it hold up against spread teams? Personally, I don't think so

Last year, for example, Ohio state DISMANTLED that Aranda coached defense, 59-0. That was ugly.

And now the ACC is filled with spread offenses. VT (5 wide under it's new coach); Clemson, Louisville, UVA (under it's new coach) and UNC are all spread offenses. Plus, we play FSU, which is pro style, but it's high powered.

We need a big time DC that can install defense that creates havoc, punish defenses, and get to the QB. We have the athletes in S. Florida to do it

This article addresses the ohio state game very thoroughly and talks about the adjustments he made to beat auburn.

Wisconsin's versatile, hybrid defense - Football Study Hall

 

[TomAce]

One comment stuck out to me last night by announcer, while complimenting whisky defense he said the scheme relies on " the lineman holding the fort at the LOS, and creating havoc with the LB"

 

[The Svengali]

4-3 defense, ONLY at Miami, with Werewolves coming off the edges, please. Rinse and repeat.

State of Florida teams --Miami especially--are 4-3 teams. Put the athletes on the field and turn them loose

 

[The Svengali]

One comment stuck out to me last night by announcer, while complimenting whisky defense he said the scheme relies on " the lineman holding the fort at the LOS, and creating havoc with the LB"

Exactly, and that's a problem, imo. Lineman "holding the LOS" is not Miami football. It's just not.

I want the lineman getting up field and attacking the LOS.

 

[Canesfan43]

Wisconsin is #1 in the country in Defensive Points per game. You'd have to be naive to think with Miami caliber athletes and this defense, that it wouldn't shred the almighty Coarstal Division. 4-3 or 3-4 apart, you get the best defensive coordinator you can find and at this point it appears to be Aranda.

 

[Canesfan43]

One comment stuck out to me last night by announcer, while complimenting whisky defense he said the scheme relies on " the lineman holding the fort at the LOS, and creating havoc with the LB"

Exactly, and that's a problem, imo. Lineman "holding the LOS" is not Miami football. It's just not.

I want the lineman getting up field and attacking the LOS.

There lineman do attack up field. In any defense whether you attack up-field or not, you have to be able to hold the LOS to win. That's just basic football 101 just like if an offensive line can't control the LOS, you have poor results.

 

[TomAce]

One comment stuck out to me last night by announcer, while complimenting whisky defense he said the scheme relies on " the lineman holding the fort at the LOS, and creating havoc with the LB"

Exactly, and that's a problem, imo. Lineman "holding the LOS" is not Miami football. It's just not.

I want the lineman getting up field and attacking the LOS.

There lineman do attack up field. In any defense whether you attack up-field or not, you have to be able to hold the LOS to win. That's just basic football 101 just like if an offensive line can't control the LOS, you have poor results.

I don't disagree and I know little about whisky defense beside last night. However, that wasn't the context in which the quote was used.

 

[Canesfan43]

One comment stuck out to me last night by announcer, while complimenting whisky defense he said the scheme relies on " the lineman holding the fort at the LOS, and creating havoc with the LB"

Exactly, and that's a problem, imo. Lineman "holding the LOS" is not Miami football. It's just not.

I want the lineman getting up field and attacking the LOS.

There lineman do attack up field. In any defense whether you attack up-field or not, you have to be able to hold the LOS to win. That's just basic football 101 just like if an offensive line can't control the LOS, you have poor results.

I don't disagree and I know little about whisky defense beside last night. However, that wasn't the context in which the quote was used.

To be honest most commentators couldn't even tell you the difference between Aranda's 3-4 and Golden's 3-4. They hear 3-4 and automatically assume defensive lineman all 300+ with the dlineman 2 gapping. Aranda's defense is actually very similar to an old Miami defense when you look at it player for player. He prefers lighter, quicker guys that can slip past blockers instead of playing the man (2-gapping) which was Golden's mantra.

 

[The Svengali]

One comment stuck out to me last night by announcer, while complimenting whisky defense he said the scheme relies on " the lineman holding the fort at the LOS, and creating havoc with the LB"

The lineman were holding the LOS. I watched them play last night
Exactly, and that's a problem, imo. Lineman "holding the LOS" is not Miami football. It's just not.

I want the lineman getting up field and attacking the LOS.

There lineman do attack up field. In any defense whether you attack up-field or not, you have to be able to hold the LOS to win. That's just basic football 101 just like if an offensive line can't control the LOS, you have poor results.

C'mon, you know **** well I'm not talking about "controlling" the LOS. We are talking about holding the LOS, so the linebackers can make all the plays, as opposed to having DT's that's getting up field and attacking the LOS, like Miami used to do, Pre Golden/Onofrio, and the way all state of Florida teams play.

Last night, the Wisconsin lineman were in a 3 point stance, holding the LOS all game. They were not attacking. I watched the game last night, and I'm actually watching it again right now (as I type to you)

 

[Gatorhater]

Look at the schedule and the offenses Wiscy is lining up against week in and week out.

Would that defense hold up in the Big 12, for example?

I am not saying Aranda can't coach, but you need to look at the opponents as well---a large sample size against high powered offenses. I think Wisconsin's defensive rankings are skewed against the level of competition they face on offense.

Last year, Ohio state DISMANTLED that Aranda coached defense. It was ugly. 51-3, I believe

And now the ACC is filled with spread offenses. VT (5 wide under it's new coach); Clemson, Louisville, UVA (under it's new coach) and UNC are all spread offenses. Plus, we play FSU, which is pro style, but it's high powered.

We need a big time DC that can install defense that creates havoc, punish defenses, and get to the QB. We have the athletes in S. Florida to do it

Not concerned with his defense holding up in the Big 12.

I want it to hold up in the coastal and hold up against the best teams in the country.

If you supplement this man's defensive scheme with the best athletes in the country, it's gonna be epic

Why does everyone think that every coach they like will be EPIC with So Fl athletes? Most of these coaches have had success with less athletic players using systems specifically designed for those type players. There is a defense designed SPECIFICALLY for So Fl players and is was so EPIC it destroyed whole football programs for years. It is Miami's 4-3 defense. We KNOW it is EPIC using So Fl plays because it has in fact been EPIC doing so. It is not speculation, expectations, or wishful thinking; it is hard historic fact.

There is a beautiful near perfect girl standing in front of us begging to be taken out on the town again. We know she is fun. We know she works it. We know everyone else we die at the sight of her. YET, so many want the girl behind door number 1 or door 2. Why? For me, you can keep your mid-west long haired blonde who looks like she might be hot in all those sweaters and jackets with hoods only to find out those puffy spots are not all the sweater. Give me the lean, tan, scorching So Fl hottie in a barley there bikini unable to hide a skin spot, no less an extra 20 lbs.

 

[fincane]

It is funny that no one is allowed to question Aranda without being labeled a 3-4 hater idiot. Is his defense counterintuitive to our recruiting base? Are you recruiting Chad Thomas, Demetrius Jackson, Patrick Bethel and Joseph Jackson to be the guys who allow your LBs like Owens, Grace and Quarterman to make plays?

You're recruiting south Florida monsters on the DL. What do you want them to be? Chess pieces for a scheme? LuCane has said several times that players on the team have told him they "just wanna ball".

"But its an attacking style of defense". Well its not for the DEs and DTs. Those guys don't make flash plays. You'd be asking those guys to make plays that only excite coaches in the film room. Good luck selling that again.

 

[blackvern]

One comment stuck out to me last night by announcer, while complimenting whisky defense he said the scheme relies on " the lineman holding the fort at the LOS, and creating havoc with the LB"

[MENTION=7131]FullyERicht[/MENTION]

Kind of goes against everything you said

 

[jerzeycane]

Look at the schedule and the offenses Wiscy is lining up against week in and week out.

Would that defense hold up in the Big 12, for example?

I am not saying Aranda can't coach, but you need to look at the opponents as well---a large sample size against high powered offenses. I think Wisconsin's defensive rankings are skewed against the level of competition they face on offense.

Last year, Ohio state DISMANTLED that Aranda coached defense. It was ugly. 51-3, I believe

And now the ACC is filled with spread offenses. VT (5 wide under it's new coach); Clemson, Louisville, UVA (under it's new coach) and UNC are all spread offenses. Plus, we play FSU, which is pro style, but it's high powered.

We need a big time DC that can install defense that creates havoc, punish defenses, and get to the QB. We have the athletes in S. Florida to do it

Not concerned with his defense holding up in the Big 12.

I want it to hold up in the coastal and hold up against the best teams in the country.

If you supplement this man's defensive scheme with the best athletes in the country, it's gonna be epic

Why does everyone think that every coach they like will be EPIC with So Fl athletes? Most of these coaches have had success with less athletic players using systems specifically designed for those type players. There is a defense designed SPECIFICALLY for So Fl players and is was so EPIC it destroyed whole football programs for years. It is Miami's 4-3 defense. We KNOW it is EPIC using So Fl plays because it has in fact been EPIC doing so. It is not speculation, expectations, or wishful thinking; it is hard historic fact.

There is a beautiful near perfect girl standing in front of us begging to be taken out on the town again. We know she is fun. We know she works it. We know everyone else we die at the sight of her. YET, so many want the girl behind door number 1 or door 2. Why? For me, you can keep your mid-west long haired blonde who looks like she might be hot in all those sweaters and jackets with hoods only to find out those puffy spots are not all the sweater. Give me the lean, tan, scorching So Fl hottie in a barley there bikini unable to hide a skin spot, no less an extra 20 lbs.

She was hot 15 years ago...

 

[blackvern]

It is funny that no one is allowed to question Aranda without being labeled a 3-4 hater idiot. Is his defense counterintuitive to our recruiting base? Are you recruiting Chad Thomas, Demetrius Jackson, Patrick Bethel and Joseph Jackson to be the guys who allow your LBs like Owens, Grace and Quarterman to make plays?

You're recruiting south Florida monsters on the DL. What do you want them to be? Chess pieces for a scheme? LuCane has said several times that players on the team have told him they "just wanna ball".

"But its an attacking style of defense". Well its not for the DEs and DTs. Those guys don't make flash plays. You'd be asking those guys to make plays that only excite coaches in the film room. Good luck selling that again.

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[sfowler06]

It is funny that no one is allowed to question Aranda without being labeled a 3-4 hater idiot. Is his defense counterintuitive to our recruiting base? Are you recruiting Chad Thomas, Demetrius Jackson, Patrick Bethel and Joseph Jackson to be the guys who allow your LBs like Owens, Grace and Quarterman to make plays?

You're recruiting south Florida monsters on the DL. What do you want them to be? Chess pieces for a scheme? LuCane has said several times that players on the team have told him they "just wanna ball".

"But its an attacking style of defense". Well its not for the DEs and DTs. Those guys don't make flash plays. You'd be asking those guys to make plays that only excite coaches in the film room. Good luck selling that again.

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Not really. Aranda has ran 3-4 and 4-3 defenses. He may go back to the 4-3 when he gets here.

 

[Canesfan43]

It is funny that no one is allowed to question Aranda without being labeled a 3-4 hater idiot. Is his defense counterintuitive to our recruiting base? Are you recruiting Chad Thomas, Demetrius Jackson, Patrick Bethel and Joseph Jackson to be the guys who allow your LBs like Owens, Grace and Quarterman to make plays?

You're recruiting south Florida monsters on the DL. What do you want them to be? Chess pieces for a scheme? LuCane has said several times that players on the team have told him they "just wanna ball".

"But its an attacking style of defense". Well its not for the DEs and DTs. Those guys don't make flash plays. You'd be asking those guys to make plays that only excite coaches in the film room. Good luck selling that again.

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Because Wisconsin doesn't have the chess pieces at dline that Miami does. You don't think Aranda would adapt his scheme to better suit studs on the dline? If anything he would tailor his defense to be even more aggressive than it is now. The whole point of this is whose to say that Aranda doesn't come in and change to a 4-3? The fact is the man has been a top flight Coordinator everywhere he has coached at and the trends tend to say he would do the same at Miami. 4-3/3-4 the whole point is Aranda has an aggressive mentality that would pair well with Miami.