Wisconsin 5th in the Nation in Defensive yards per play

[Canesfan43]

A good 3-4 DC designs pressure looks to get his best rushers favorable matchups. Eagles use "3-4" double A gap looks so Fletcher Cox can get a 1on1 with a guard (look up his sack against the Bills/Incognito).

You can move Chad Thomas anywhere on the line on passing downs. Even the previous regime of corches did this occasionally.

Who cares about the front or gap responsibilities on running downs anyway? Even the idolized Seahawks "4-3" defense uses 2-gap principles on running downs. 300+ lb. Red Bryant was the starting DE for their championship team. "But you have to line up your savages and let them loose" lmao.

We got some quality Pop Warner assistant corches ITT...

"4-3" bro, "Upfield" bro, "Let them loose" bro

This **** is getting ridiculous on this site.

No, those Aranda "hold the LOS" defenses fit teams with slow lumbering recruits from Utah, Iowa or Wisconsin. That styled defense don't fit teams from Florida, and especially not Miami.

We just lived this nightmare with Al Golden.

Jack cichy was really "holding the LOS" when he had 3 sacks on 3 consecutive plays wasn't he?

Why do Aranda defenses get shredded by high powered offenses?

Enlighten me with evidence besides the Ohio state game....

 

[FullyERicht]

Question for the Anti-Aranda crowd.

How do we know that Aranda isn't simply playing the defense that beat suits the personnel that he has?

Im not antI ARANDA ..im just more pro 4-3 against read option teams because lets e honest only teams that scare me are read option teams like Clemson Noth carolina

you can throw out all numbers how did Aranda do against read option teams? OHio State? Oregon?

Why can't you grasp the concept that he can run a 4 man front against spread. You can have multiple fronts in a defense but it appears that you haven't grasped that concept.

B/C he's a guy who probably has never stepped foot out of Dade county HS football.

 

[The Svengali]

"4-3" bro, "Upfield" bro, "Let them loose" bro

This **** is getting ridiculous on this site.

No, those Aranda "hold the LOS" defenses fit teams with slow lumbering recruits from Utah, Iowa or Wisconsin. That styled defense don't fit teams from Florida, and especially not Miami.

We just lived this nightmare with Al Golden.

Jack cichy was really "holding the LOS" when he had 3 sacks on 3 consecutive plays wasn't he?

Why do Aranda defenses get shredded by high powered offenses?

Enlighten me with evidence besides the Ohio state game....

Wasn't the Ohio State beat-down enough??? It was 59-0 in the Big Ten title game (Huge game) and Ohio State took their foot off the gas. That alone, should give you pause.

They gave up 31pts and nearly 500 yards to a bad Auburn team, with bad QB play. Bama mushed them in the face with 35 and could've socred 50, with shaky QB play.

Outside of that, they haven't played anyone with a decent offense in 2 years. Look at their schedule.

All I'm saying it I prefer an aggressive 4-3 defense

 

[jerzeycane]

Question for the Anti-Aranda crowd.

How do we know that Aranda isn't simply playing the defense that beat suits the personnel that he has?

Im not antI ARANDA ..im just more pro 4-3 against read option teams because lets e honest only teams that scare me are read option teams like Clemson Noth carolina

you can throw out all numbers how did Aranda do against read option teams? OHio State? Oregon?

Narduzzi and JJ's 4-3 have taken its share of butt ****ings from read/option spread squads too.

Oregon lit them up. Ohio State beat the absolute crap out of Sparty in their house last year. Art Briles is STILL molesting Narduzzi somewhere in America as we speak.

Don't stop you or anyone else from guzzling his man juice though.

 

[blackvern]

Question for the Anti-Aranda crowd.

How do we know that Aranda isn't simply playing the defense that beat suits the personnel that he has?

Im not antI ARANDA ..im just more pro 4-3 against read option teams because lets e honest only teams that scare me are read option teams like Clemson Noth carolina

you can throw out all numbers how did Aranda do against read option teams? OHio State? Oregon?

Why can't you grasp the concept that he can run a 4 man front against spread. You can have multiple fronts in a defense but it appears that you haven't grasped that concept.

On a college level I dont believe in that... you are who you are on defense you are who you are on offense...theres not enought time to perfect multiple schemes.... you end up making a mistakes all game..NFL ok... Id rather play the same defense and make different calls? Blitzes?

 

[blackvern]

"4-3" bro, "Upfield" bro, "Let them loose" bro

This **** is getting ridiculous on this site.

No, those Aranda "hold the LOS" defenses fit teams with slow lumbering recruits from Utah, Iowa or Wisconsin. That styled defense don't fit teams from Florida, and especially not Miami.

We just lived this nightmare with Al Golden.

Jack cichy was really "holding the LOS" when he had 3 sacks on 3 consecutive plays wasn't he?

Why do Aranda defenses get shredded by high powered offenses?

Enlighten me with evidence besides the Ohio state game....

LOL what other high powereed offense have they played?

 

[Canesfan43]

No, those Aranda "hold the LOS" defenses fit teams with slow lumbering recruits from Utah, Iowa or Wisconsin. That styled defense don't fit teams from Florida, and especially not Miami.

We just lived this nightmare with Al Golden.

Jack cichy was really "holding the LOS" when he had 3 sacks on 3 consecutive plays wasn't he?

Why do Aranda defenses get shredded by high powered offenses?

Enlighten me with evidence besides the Ohio state game....

LOL what other high powereed offense have they played?

Don't have the time to look up every single offense they've played but their biggest loss, besides Ohio state, since he's been there was 10 points to South carolina. They've been in the top 10 all 3 years he's been there. What happened to the Miami style defense that michigan state runs when they played oregon? Enlighten me

 

[Dwinstitles]

I hate scrolling through threads wea two nikkaz writing books bak n forth to no end to see whos right lol.

 

[jerzeycane]

I hate scrolling through threads wea two nikkaz writing books bak n forth to no end to see whos right lol.

I hate that you probably need subtitles when you talk lol

 

[Gatorhater]

Not concerned with his defense holding up in the Big 12.

I want it to hold up in the coastal and hold up against the best teams in the country.

If you supplement this man's defensive scheme with the best athletes in the country, it's gonna be epic

Why does everyone think that every coach they like will be EPIC with So Fl athletes? Most of these coaches have had success with less athletic players using systems specifically designed for those type players. There is a defense designed SPECIFICALLY for So Fl players and is was so EPIC it destroyed whole football programs for years. It is Miami's 4-3 defense. We KNOW it is EPIC using So Fl plays because it has in fact been EPIC doing so. It is not speculation, expectations, or wishful thinking; it is hard historic fact.

There is a beautiful near perfect girl standing in front of us begging to be taken out on the town again. We know she is fun. We know she works it. We know everyone else we die at the sight of her. YET, so many want the girl behind door number 1 or door 2. Why? For me, you can keep your mid-west long haired blonde who looks like she might be hot in all those sweaters and jackets with hoods only to find out those puffy spots are not all the sweater. Give me the lean, tan, scorching So Fl hottie in a barley there bikini unable to hide a skin spot, no less an extra 20 lbs.

She was hot 15 years ago...

15 years ago?? Really?

Ohio Taint is a 4-3 team and they won the title last year
FSU is a 4-3 team and they won the title 2 years ago

3 out of the 4 teams in this years playoffs deploy 4-3 defensive schemes (Bama). Only two teams in the entire top ten deploy 3-4 schemes (Bama/Stanford). Only 4 teams in the top 20 deploy 4-3 schemes (Bama, Stanford, Michigan, Oregon---- and Michigan is moving to a 4-3 next season)

In fact, in the last 15 years, 11 of the last 15 title teams deployed 4-3 defenses. Only Saban has won titles running a 3-4 scheme(1 at LSU, and 3 at Bama)

So is it an etched in stone rule that Aranda has to run a 3-4? The dude is a stud coordinator for a reason, he may come in here on day one and run a 4-3 cover 2 until he leaves. My point is do you think he would run the old miami system at Wisconsin? It wouldn't work because they don't have the type of athletes that Miami does.

Now that is true. IF Aranda said that he was going to run our old 4-3 here and only used the 3-4 because of lack of proper players, then I would be more agreeable. But coaches have a tendency to stick with what they have used and only the great one can adapt to the talent they have. I have nothing against any coach, I just want our old system back with a return to simpler defense based on speed and aggression. It had some weaknesses that came from the aggression but they were certainly worth it.

 

[FullyERicht]

Why does everyone think that every coach they like will be EPIC with So Fl athletes? Most of these coaches have had success with less athletic players using systems specifically designed for those type players. There is a defense designed SPECIFICALLY for So Fl players and is was so EPIC it destroyed whole football programs for years. It is Miami's 4-3 defense. We KNOW it is EPIC using So Fl plays because it has in fact been EPIC doing so. It is not speculation, expectations, or wishful thinking; it is hard historic fact.

There is a beautiful near perfect girl standing in front of us begging to be taken out on the town again. We know she is fun. We know she works it. We know everyone else we die at the sight of her. YET, so many want the girl behind door number 1 or door 2. Why? For me, you can keep your mid-west long haired blonde who looks like she might be hot in all those sweaters and jackets with hoods only to find out those puffy spots are not all the sweater. Give me the lean, tan, scorching So Fl hottie in a barley there bikini unable to hide a skin spot, no less an extra 20 lbs.

She was hot 15 years ago...

15 years ago?? Really?

Ohio Taint is a 4-3 team and they won the title last year
FSU is a 4-3 team and they won the title 2 years ago

3 out of the 4 teams in this years playoffs deploy 4-3 defensive schemes (Bama). Only two teams in the entire top ten deploy 3-4 schemes (Bama/Stanford). Only 4 teams in the top 20 deploy 4-3 schemes (Bama, Stanford, Michigan, Oregon---- and Michigan is moving to a 4-3 next season)

In fact, in the last 15 years, 11 of the last 15 title teams deployed 4-3 defenses. Only Saban has won titles running a 3-4 scheme(1 at LSU, and 3 at Bama)

So is it an etched in stone rule that Aranda has to run a 3-4? The dude is a stud coordinator for a reason, he may come in here on day one and run a 4-3 cover 2 until he leaves. My point is do you think he would run the old miami system at Wisconsin? It wouldn't work because they don't have the type of athletes that Miami does.

Now that is true. IF Aranda said that he was going to run our old 4-3 here and only used the 3-4 because of lack of proper players, then I would be more agreeable. But coaches have a tendency to stick with what they have used and only the great one can adapt to the talent they have. I have nothing against any coach, I just want our old system back with a return to simpler defense based on speed and aggression. It had some weaknesses that came from the aggression but they were certainly worth it.

"I want my binkey bc I'm scared of things I don't understand!"

This is how ya'll come across.

 

[Gatorhater]

Look at the schedule and the offenses Wiscy is lining up against week in and week out.

Would that defense hold up in the Big 12, for example?

I am not saying Aranda can't coach, but you need to look at the opponents as well---a large sample size against high powered offenses. I think Wisconsin's defensive rankings are skewed against the level of competition they face on offense.

Last year, Ohio state DISMANTLED that Aranda coached defense. It was ugly. 51-3, I believe

And now the ACC is filled with spread offenses. VT (5 wide under it's new coach); Clemson, Louisville, UVA (under it's new coach) and UNC are all spread offenses. Plus, we play FSU, which is pro style, but it's high powered.

We need a big time DC that can install defense that creates havoc, punish defenses, and get to the QB. We have the athletes in S. Florida to do it

Not concerned with his defense holding up in the Big 12.

I want it to hold up in the coastal and hold up against the best teams in the country.

If you supplement this man's defensive scheme with the best athletes in the country, it's gonna be epic

Why does everyone think that every coach they like will be EPIC with So Fl athletes? Most of these coaches have had success with less athletic players using systems specifically designed for those type players. There is a defense designed SPECIFICALLY for So Fl players and is was so EPIC it destroyed whole football programs for years. It is Miami's 4-3 defense. We KNOW it is EPIC using So Fl plays because it has in fact been EPIC doing so. It is not speculation, expectations, or wishful thinking; it is hard historic fact.

There is a beautiful near perfect girl standing in front of us begging to be taken out on the town again. We know she is fun. We know she works it. We know everyone else we die at the sight of her. YET, so many want the girl behind door number 1 or door 2. Why? For me, you can keep your mid-west long haired blonde who looks like she might be hot in all those sweaters and jackets with hoods only to find out those puffy spots are not all the sweater. Give me the lean, tan, scorching So Fl hottie in a barley there bikini unable to hide a skin spot, no less an extra 20 lbs.

She was hot 15 years ago...

Some hot chicks stay hot for a very long time. Our defense is a Sophia Loren class. By the way, she even did some time in jail --- True Cane.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

SAY NO TO AMAND'ONOFRIO!!!

 

[ssj4cane]

She was hot 15 years ago...

15 years ago?? Really?

Ohio Taint is a 4-3 team and they won the title last year
FSU is a 4-3 team and they won the title 2 years ago

3 out of the 4 teams in this years playoffs deploy 4-3 defensive schemes (Bama). Only two teams in the entire top ten deploy 3-4 schemes (Bama/Stanford). Only 4 teams in the top 20 deploy 4-3 schemes (Bama, Stanford, Michigan, Oregon---- and Michigan is moving to a 4-3 next season)

In fact, in the last 15 years, 11 of the last 15 title teams deployed 4-3 defenses. Only Saban has won titles running a 3-4 scheme(1 at LSU, and 3 at Bama)

So is it an etched in stone rule that Aranda has to run a 3-4? The dude is a stud coordinator for a reason, he may come in here on day one and run a 4-3 cover 2 until he leaves. My point is do you think he would run the old miami system at Wisconsin? It wouldn't work because they don't have the type of athletes that Miami does.

Now that is true. IF Aranda said that he was going to run our old 4-3 here and only used the 3-4 because of lack of proper players, then I would be more agreeable. But coaches have a tendency to stick with what they have used and only the great one can adapt to the talent they have. I have nothing against any coach, I just want our old system back with a return to simpler defense based on speed and aggression. It had some weaknesses that came from the aggression but they were certainly worth it.

"I want my binkey bc I'm scared of things I don't understand!"

This is how ya'll come across.

Miami fans man. 4-3 cover 2 bros. that's all south Florida athletes can do. Same fan base thinks pro style offense is the only thing that works. Guys are actually arguing against bringing a top 5 defensive coordinator in.

 

[Dirty Sprite]

What elite offenses or even above average ones did Arandas defense dominate? What was their schedule?

Regardless why are there so many Aranda groupies on this board? There are other good DCs in the country... That actually run a scheme that fits SFl talent.

 

[Gatorhater]

She was hot 15 years ago...

15 years ago?? Really?

Ohio Taint is a 4-3 team and they won the title last year
FSU is a 4-3 team and they won the title 2 years ago

3 out of the 4 teams in this years playoffs deploy 4-3 defensive schemes (Bama). Only two teams in the entire top ten deploy 3-4 schemes (Bama/Stanford). Only 4 teams in the top 20 deploy 4-3 schemes (Bama, Stanford, Michigan, Oregon---- and Michigan is moving to a 4-3 next season)

In fact, in the last 15 years, 11 of the last 15 title teams deployed 4-3 defenses. Only Saban has won titles running a 3-4 scheme(1 at LSU, and 3 at Bama)

So is it an etched in stone rule that Aranda has to run a 3-4? The dude is a stud coordinator for a reason, he may come in here on day one and run a 4-3 cover 2 until he leaves. My point is do you think he would run the old miami system at Wisconsin? It wouldn't work because they don't have the type of athletes that Miami does.

Now that is true. IF Aranda said that he was going to run our old 4-3 here and only used the 3-4 because of lack of proper players, then I would be more agreeable. But coaches have a tendency to stick with what they have used and only the great one can adapt to the talent they have. I have nothing against any coach, I just want our old system back with a return to simpler defense based on speed and aggression. It had some weaknesses that came from the aggression but they were certainly worth it.

"I want my binkey bc I'm scared of things I don't understand!"

This is how ya'll come across.

Gosh, I am glad you said that. All I needed was a well founded insult to see the error of my ways. What was I thinking? Being scared of four years of failure and the resultant dumpster fire from the last attempt to turn us into fat white boy defense. You're right. Maybe you can get Obama to band all those films and videos of our old teams so nothing would refresh our memories of what a real Miami defense can look like. Then we would all could get into your meat-free tofu electric three wheel clown car and live happily ever after.