Willie in 305

Hope he stays, but money talks and I assume Willie came with a bunch of it.

Man, it's not about money if the guy goes—it's about going back home. Born in Tallahassee, went to high school there, played for Florida State and was a grad assistant for the Noles. (Also coached under Taggart for two years at South Florida.)

Richt got to come "home" to Miami; while Manny Diaz legit came home-home.

For Taggart it's all about where he wants to be. Is two years enough to make Miami a new home to him and is he digging coaching under his former offensive coordinator (Richt)—or is the lure to go back to his alma mater too much?

If some former Canes great was coaching at FSU and got the call to come back to The U, it's a no-brainer and has nothing to do with money. The minute the roles are reversed, it's only a money decision to go?

Furthermore, Florida State doesn't have some astronomical athletic department budget—and Miami isn't exactly underpaying its assistants these days.

He aint going to leave for an unproven HC coach regardless of where the job is... that's plain stupid. He could be out of a job in 3 years, off to some other lower level bs job.
 
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Barry Jackson just said he asked Dugans if he'd be the WR coach next year and Dugans declined to comment. TIFWIW. Still holding out hope he stays based off Tweed's confidence.

Miami Hurricanes excited about new receivers, tight ends | Miami Herald

Welp

Unacceptable. If we can't compete with FSU in keeping our good coaches we will never be a championship level program again.

Dugans is worth the extra money. He got production out of mediocre guys like Langham. The WR core was one of the most consistent, hard working and toughest blocking groups in college football and he's an A plus recruiter.

Pay the man.

It's not money.

It's going back to his alma mater AND getting a Co-OC title, which Taggart is offering.

As others have said, can't hate him if he goes. He did a great job here and helped turn the position around. At the same time, no WR coach in the country is irreplaceable. Richt has made excellent hires so far and has extensive contacts. I'm confident he'll hire someone good to replace him.

If you're a good college team, your coaches are going to get poached. that happens even at Alabama
An alma mater is not the end-all-be-all for coaches see Mario Cristobal as an example.

You can't lose your position coaches to lateral moves in the power 5. And forget that "co" this title crap. He'll be the WR coach and have the same job.

No clue what happens here but if it does end up that he has North for a lateral position, that needs to get fixed. Having coaches take lateral moves isn't a good look, especially in recruiting when you're trying to convince everybody you're the stronger program.

Actually, you can lose an easily replaceable position coach to a lateral move if he makes up his mind to leave. Who made up that rule? What are you going to do? Wildly overpay a receivers coach? A raise may be merited within reason. Solid organizations also know when to retain, and when to cut someoneone loose. You don’t throw a monkey wrench into your salary structure for someone you can replace. There are plenty of good reasons for him to stay, and sweetening the pot reasonably might be part of the equation, but you also have to be prepared to let him walk.
 
Given more cash and offensive play calling duties, it'd be tough to say no to. Although.. alma mater or not, it is TRAILERHASSEE.

Where are you hearing he'd be given ANY playcalling duties? He'd be 3rd in line on that side of the ball behind Tagfart and whatever bum they get as OC.

He’s already the passing game coordinator...
 
I understand Willie's pursuit, BUT at the end of the day Dugans aren't leaving UM for FSu.. This guy just signed a monster class at WR and for him to leave would be very odd!! I think he's happy here at Miami..
 

Unacceptable. If we can't compete with FSU in keeping our good coaches we will never be a championship level program again.

Dugans is worth the extra money. He got production out of mediocre guys like Langham. The WR core was one of the most consistent, hard working and toughest blocking groups in college football and he's an A plus recruiter.

Pay the man.

It's not money.

It's going back to his alma mater AND getting a Co-OC title, which Taggart is offering.

As others have said, can't hate him if he goes. He did a great job here and helped turn the position around. At the same time, no WR coach in the country is irreplaceable. Richt has made excellent hires so far and has extensive contacts. I'm confident he'll hire someone good to replace him.

If you're a good college team, your coaches are going to get poached. that happens even at Alabama
An alma mater is not the end-all-be-all for coaches see Mario Cristobal as an example.

You can't lose your position coaches to lateral moves in the power 5. And forget that "co" this title crap. He'll be the WR coach and have the same job.

No clue what happens here but if it does end up that he has North for a lateral position, that needs to get fixed. Having coaches take lateral moves isn't a good look, especially in recruiting when you're trying to convince everybody you're the stronger program.

Actually, you can lose an easily replaceable position coach to a lateral move if he makes up his mind to leave. Who made up that rule? What are you going to do? Wildly overpay a receivers coach? A raise may be merited within reason. Solid organizations also know when to retain, and when to cut someoneone loose. You don’t throw a monkey wrench into your salary structure for someone you can replace. There are plenty of good reasons for him to stay, and sweetening the pot reasonably might be part of the equation, but you also have to be prepared to let him walk.
You absolutely disrupt your salary structure if it is the one weakness that leaves you wide open to your rivals. What message does that say about your program when one of the assistants you have labeled as a valuable contributor to your staff and it's recruiting efforts leaves perhaps the highest trajectory program in college football for a gigantic dumpster fire? For a lateral move? It's not an insurmountable thing but it is a message you need to contain so it doesn't become a theme.
 
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Unacceptable. If we can't compete with FSU in keeping our good coaches we will never be a championship level program again.

Dugans is worth the extra money. He got production out of mediocre guys like Langham. The WR core was one of the most consistent, hard working and toughest blocking groups in college football and he's an A plus recruiter.

Pay the man.

It's not money.

It's going back to his alma mater AND getting a Co-OC title, which Taggart is offering.

As others have said, can't hate him if he goes. He did a great job here and helped turn the position around. At the same time, no WR coach in the country is irreplaceable. Richt has made excellent hires so far and has extensive contacts. I'm confident he'll hire someone good to replace him.

If you're a good college team, your coaches are going to get poached. that happens even at Alabama
An alma mater is not the end-all-be-all for coaches see Mario Cristobal as an example.

You can't lose your position coaches to lateral moves in the power 5. And forget that "co" this title crap. He'll be the WR coach and have the same job.

No clue what happens here but if it does end up that he has North for a lateral position, that needs to get fixed. Having coaches take lateral moves isn't a good look, especially in recruiting when you're trying to convince everybody you're the stronger program.

Actually, you can lose an easily replaceable position coach to a lateral move if he makes up his mind to leave. Who made up that rule? What are you going to do? Wildly overpay a receivers coach? A raise may be merited within reason. Solid organizations also know when to retain, and when to cut someoneone loose. You don’t throw a monkey wrench into your salary structure for someone you can replace. There are plenty of good reasons for him to stay, and sweetening the pot reasonably might be part of the equation, but you also have to be prepared to let him walk.
You absolutely disrupt your salary structure if it is the one weakness that leaves you wide open to your rivals. What message does that say about your program when one of the assistants you have labeled as a valuable contributor to your staff and it's recruiting efforts leaves perhaps the highest trajectory program in college football for a gigantic dumpster fire? For a lateral move? It's not an insurmountable thing but it is a message you need to contain so it doesn't become a theme.

It means the guy may want to go back to where he grew up to coach at his alma mater.
 
Unacceptable. If we can't compete with FSU in keeping our good coaches we will never be a championship level program again.

Dugans is worth the extra money. He got production out of mediocre guys like Langham. The WR core was one of the most consistent, hard working and toughest blocking groups in college football and he's an A plus recruiter.

Pay the man.

It's not money.

It's going back to his alma mater AND getting a Co-OC title, which Taggart is offering.

As others have said, can't hate him if he goes. He did a great job here and helped turn the position around. At the same time, no WR coach in the country is irreplaceable. Richt has made excellent hires so far and has extensive contacts. I'm confident he'll hire someone good to replace him.

If you're a good college team, your coaches are going to get poached. that happens even at Alabama
An alma mater is not the end-all-be-all for coaches see Mario Cristobal as an example.

You can't lose your position coaches to lateral moves in the power 5. And forget that "co" this title crap. He'll be the WR coach and have the same job.

No clue what happens here but if it does end up that he has North for a lateral position, that needs to get fixed. Having coaches take lateral moves isn't a good look, especially in recruiting when you're trying to convince everybody you're the stronger program.

Actually, you can lose an easily replaceable position coach to a lateral move if he makes up his mind to leave. Who made up that rule? What are you going to do? Wildly overpay a receivers coach? A raise may be merited within reason. Solid organizations also know when to retain, and when to cut someoneone loose. You don’t throw a monkey wrench into your salary structure for someone you can replace. There are plenty of good reasons for him to stay, and sweetening the pot reasonably might be part of the equation, but you also have to be prepared to let him walk.
You absolutely disrupt your salary structure if it is the one weakness that leaves you wide open to your rivals. What message does that say about your program when one of the assistants you have labeled as a valuable contributor to your staff and it's recruiting efforts leaves perhaps the highest trajectory program in college football for a gigantic dumpster fire? For a lateral move? It's not an insurmountable thing but it is a message you need to contain so it doesn't become a theme.

I honestly have no idea what your trying to say.

No clue.
 
If he was staying he would have said so by now. I feel like there's a good chance he's gone. And if he's gone then **** em
 
Unacceptable. If we can't compete with FSU in keeping our good coaches we will never be a championship level program again.

Dugans is worth the extra money. He got production out of mediocre guys like Langham. The WR core was one of the most consistent, hard working and toughest blocking groups in college football and he's an A plus recruiter.

Pay the man.

It's not money.

It's going back to his alma mater AND getting a Co-OC title, which Taggart is offering.

As others have said, can't hate him if he goes. He did a great job here and helped turn the position around. At the same time, no WR coach in the country is irreplaceable. Richt has made excellent hires so far and has extensive contacts. I'm confident he'll hire someone good to replace him.

If you're a good college team, your coaches are going to get poached. that happens even at Alabama
An alma mater is not the end-all-be-all for coaches see Mario Cristobal as an example.

You can't lose your position coaches to lateral moves in the power 5. And forget that "co" this title crap. He'll be the WR coach and have the same job.

No clue what happens here but if it does end up that he has North for a lateral position, that needs to get fixed. Having coaches take lateral moves isn't a good look, especially in recruiting when you're trying to convince everybody you're the stronger program.

Actually, you can lose an easily replaceable position coach to a lateral move if he makes up his mind to leave. Who made up that rule? What are you going to do? Wildly overpay a receivers coach? A raise may be merited within reason. Solid organizations also know when to retain, and when to cut someoneone loose. You don’t throw a monkey wrench into your salary structure for someone you can replace. There are plenty of good reasons for him to stay, and sweetening the pot reasonably might be part of the equation, but you also have to be prepared to let him walk.
You absolutely disrupt your salary structure if it is the one weakness that leaves you wide open to your rivals. What message does that say about your program when one of the assistants you have labeled as a valuable contributor to your staff and it's recruiting efforts leaves perhaps the highest trajectory program in college football for a gigantic dumpster fire? For a lateral move? It's not an insurmountable thing but it is a message you need to contain so it doesn't become a theme.

What message does it send when you wildly overpay an assistant to keep somebody else from getting him? Maybe it says you think you're one lost coach from irrelevance.

Stop deciding for the man what's important to him and where his priorities lie. You don't know his financial situation or how much his wife's love of Miami matters versus his possible desire to return home. You guys just cherry pick whatever looks good for us and decide it's a fact.
 
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Dawsey was one of the most impressive FSU wr’s in my mind. Anquan Bolden had great pro success, Peter Warrick won the Heisman, but Dawsey really ate us up back in the day. We had no answer for him back when we were really good.

So if Dugan’s goes do we bring Beard back? Go get Dawsey? Lamar Thomas? Hire The Walk on sensation from this board?
 
Dawsey was one of the most impressive FSU wr’s in my mind. Anquan Bolden had great pro success, Peter Warrick won the Heisman, but Dawsey really ate us up back in the day. We had no answer for him back when we were really good.

So if Dugan’s goes do we bring Beard back? Go get Dawsey? Lamar Thomas? Hire The Walk on sensation from this board?

No on hiring dawsey. Other than Benjamin his group has underperformed and he really didn't develop any wide receivers considering the amount of talent theyve gotten since he was there
 
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