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Who do we want to lose this weekend?

407cane said:
That makes very little sense and would be worse for us. ND beat Boise and bama isn’t out under any circumstance so if they got routed it would give the committee an opportunity to create a buffer between us and ND
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If Bama gets dominated, and becomes a 3 lost team and BYU loses then I would guess they are both out and both ND and us are in.
 
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Steve44 said:
If Bama loses - they will moved ND to 9 and Bama to 10. STOPPP thinking they will move Bama out of playoffs. Just hope Bama wins and keeps miami and ND close at 10-11 where they have to pick between us. The national media campaign is advocating for us over ND (due to head to head), but we certainly want Bama to just win and secure the #9 spot. If they were to lose, hopefully its really ugly. But dont bet on that.
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I agree with that.. it would take a colossal blowout from UGA over Bama to even think about dropping them back to 11. I don't think they move back to #10 unless they lose by 10+ and look bad doing it...
 
canefan96 said:
If Bama gets dominated, and becomes a 3 lost team and BYU loses then I would guess they are both out and both ND and us are in.
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There is no scenario on earth unless Ty Simpson breaks his right arm or a leg that bama is left out

That’s not pessimism or dramatic, the committee literally just saved bama from being out with a BYU win by flipping them with ND for a “gutsy call” and a “good run game” against 5-7 auburn
 
Fart Keyhole said:
This whole exercise is probably a fool's errand. There is no consistent standard that is being followed by the CFP committee.
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I'm with you, but the literal ONLY one is putting a H2H winner above the loser when they're back to back.

They're 14/14 in this situation. That cannot be coincidence. The literal only thing they have done consistently is put H2H above when the two teams are adjacent.

Hope they follow that protocol if BYU loses.
 
Fart Keyhole said:
This whole exercise is probably a fool's errand. There is no consistent standard that is being followed by the CFP committee.
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It’s pretty simple and there’s no exercise

BYU wins and ND and Miami are out

BYU loses and they either break the sport and ignore head to head OR fold and flip Miami and ND

They may shuffle bama to do whichever of the above they want but bama is in
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I'm with you, but the literal ONLY one is putting a H2H winner above the loser when they're back to back.

They're 14/14 in this situation. That cannot be coincidence. The literal only thing they have done consistently is put H2H above when the two teams are adjacent.

Hope they follow that protocol if BYU loses.
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You make me want to believe
 
If Bama gets hammered, they are out. Especially if BYU wins. We have a few different paths. But it requires at minimum either BYU to lose or Alabama to get smoked. Duke winning does help us, as some members of the CFP will not want to leave the ACC out. In a general sense if this happens we are in:

UNLV wins
Duke wins
BYU loses convincingly
Bama gets smoked

Some other paths as well. But above happens we are in 100%. UNLV is gravy.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I’m not even sure *I* believe. But when they put ND 10 on Tuesday, it got my attention. And when I looked into it and noticed that 14 times out of 14 this exact committee has put a H2H winner over the loser, I’m now at half mast.
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It makes sense honestly

I’d be ******* livid if I were Notre dame. Having Bama leapfrog me while we are steamrolling people because of a “gutsy” 4th down against a trash Auburn squad?

Bro. That’s despicable even if it’s Nd being punished

So the question remains, why? To protect a 3 loss Bama for sure. But they coulda justified that if they wanted if Bama was 10 imo

Wild stuff
 
JHallCanes said:
It makes sense honestly

I’d be ******* livid if I were Notre dame. Having Bama leapfrog me while we are steamrolling people because of a “gutsy” 4th down against a trash Auburn squad?

Bro. That’s despicable even if it’s Nd being punished

So the question remains, why? To protect a 3 loss Bama for sure. But they coulda justified that if they wanted if Bama was 10 imo

Wild stuff
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I think ND was too high to begin with. They just fixed their mistake. But **** yeah I’d be ballistic if I was ND.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think ND was too high to begin with. They just fixed their mistake. But **** yeah I’d be ballistic if I was ND.
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Agreed and then that starts to lend to what you’re saying

If they’re fixing their mistake and moving ND towards Miami do they have the balls to go the whole way?

Just crazy hearing about how margin of victory matters yet we obliterate Pitt and don’t move, ND literally killing people and drop, yet Bama squeaks by a dog**** Auburn team and moves up

These people have some kind of agenda and part of it is still a mystery to me to be revealed next week
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Not back to back.

What they said was, and if you feel this is bull****, I agree, but they didn't say they compared Miami and ND.

They said they compared Alabama, ND, Miami, and BYU, and they felt the order of those 4 teams was Bama 9, ND 10, BYU 11, and Miami 12.

What happens if BYU loses and Bama wins? They already have Bama ahead, that obviously won't change with them winning the SEC. BYU very, very likely drops a spot or two.

So now you have Miami and ND, back to back, and you can directly compare them. I know I'm a parrot here, but this has happened 14 times this year. In all 14 instances, the H2H winner has been ahead of the H2H loser when those teams are directly next to each other in the poll. It's happening right now with OU and Bama. OU is 8, Bama is 9, they played, OU won.

It's also happening right now with Texas and Vanderbilt. Texas is 13, Vandy is 14, they played, Texas won. There have been 12 previous instances of this exact situation in the prior weeks. In all 12 of those, it was the same protocol. H2H winner is above H2H loser when they're sequential in the poll.

Having ND 10 and Miami 11 would be completely unprecedented for this particular committee. Doesn't mean it has to happen, there's no law, the committee doesn't get executed if they don't do this. But they're 14/14 so far this year in doing it.
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Here’s the quote below.

I just don’t see how they tell us Miami is better than ND because BYU lost a game, which is what they’d be saying.

Two weeks ago they said Miami can’t do anything to pass ND, this week they said they compared ND, UM and the other teams, and Miami is last.

They’ve got no credibility. They don’t seem to really care about credibility, or they wouldn’t have Miami as the only team for whom H2H doesn’t matter… So who knows what they do.

I believe all this drama is about ratings for their show, they don’t want to tell a fan base not to watch Sunday.

I think it’s more likely neither Miami or ND get in than just Um.

 
407cane said:
It’s pretty simple and there’s no exercise

BYU wins and ND and Miami are out

BYU loses and they either break the sport and ignore head to head OR fold and flip Miami and ND

They may shuffle bama to do whichever of the above they want but bama is in
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Why do we assume byu would drop
If they lose
The committee will use the championship game loss should not affect you excuse and keep byu at 11
 
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If u punish a team for losing in the championship game
What incentive do they have for playing in it
So bama won’t drop below 10 and byu will stay at 11
That keeps motre dame in
I rather byu just win and they get in and duke wins and acc gets left out
 
2001canes4L said:
I’m sure it’s buried in a thread somewhere but I haven’t dug deep enough to find it, so I ask who do we want to lose (or win same question) for us to get in?

From what I see it’s obviously BYU losing is a no brainer. But I hear different things on the SEC championship game.

I believe that Bama is in regardless. So them winning won’t affect us either way. Should they lose the committee could slide them between ND and us and then we are out. Not sure who would make it between ND and Bama but I don’t really give a **** as it would knock us out. I think Bama winning moves them to the 3-5 range, Georgia could drop to 7. That would put us next to ND for the 10 spot and hopefully the committee puts us in. U know what that means? We go to Athens in the first round (7/10 matchup) and Beck’s return trip to face his former team. You can’t tell me the committee didn’t think about that beforehand and thought of the ratings for that game.

That’s just my idea. I haven’t looked at Georgia’s head to head with the other sec teams so not sure who they would have the head to head wins against to be moved in front of or behind. But I can’t see them pushing Georgia out.

I also don’t think Duke vs Virginia means anything. I have seen people say that if Duke wins then two G5’s get in and the committee will want to put an ACC team in so we are good (still would need BYU to lose) but I don’t believe they would care.

So back to my original question, in everyone else’s eyes on this board, who do we want to lose this weekend?

I’ll hang up and listen
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BYU needs to lose. Bama needs to lose bigly to UGA. Both of those scenarios help greatly.
 
Genghis Cane said:
In order of importance:

TT over BYU (preferably by a lot) — MUST HAPPEN

Bama over Georgia (margin doesn’t matter) — MUST HAPPEN

Duke over UVA (margin doesn’t matter) — Not necessary but it would help us, in my opinion

UNLV over Boise (margin doesn’t matter) — not necessary but further hurts ND’s resume.
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This. You can include Army over Navy in the same bucket as UNLV over Boise.
 
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