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423Hurricane said:
I still think we gotta get to 10 in whatever combination of wins/losses it takes. At 10 we’re in. I just don’t trust the CFBC to make an objective decision between us and ND if they are 10 and we are 11.
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We get to 10 by first getting to 11 with BYU losing. Then we’ll be right next to ND, which you would think committee would have no choice but to flip us considering H2H.
 
DTP said:
That’s going to have to be a **** of a ***** job. Texas Tech is light years better. They’re going to have to call like 30 fake holding penalties.
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So they are going to hit TT with all of the non-holding calls on Miami DL this year.
 
BeastMode said:
How does bama winning help Miami? If bama losses and has 3 losses albeit one in a corner championship the committee really is going to act Ike the game doesn’t count at all? It’s a free loss? It’s time to end contented championships which is wild to think. This sport is basically amateur nfl and has lost everything about itself
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Yes.. that’s how they treat the CGs. There is a logic to it… if you drop a team from a large playoff field for losing a CG, you turn that CG into something coaches want to avoid. Those games make too much money to devalue them like that.
 
1mg of Epi said:
The committee already compared us with ND, and they think ND is better.
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But that was while we were still separated by one or more teams (not that I agree with that rationale). But if we’re literally neck and neck, right next to each other, they have to weigh the H2H even more. The commissioner even said it as such:

“The head-to-head is one data point that the committee will use,” Yurachek said. “It’s easier to use when the teams are back-to-back as opposed to separated by a team or two or three as has been the case. Notre Dame is a winner of 10 straight, 10 game win streak, they outscored their opponents 440-143, have been very consistent offensively in how they run and pass, very explosive offense, third in offense. And a BYU team between them is 11-1.
 
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1mg of Epi said:
The committee already compared us with ND, and they think ND is better.
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Not back to back.

What they said was, and if you feel this is bull****, I agree, but they didn't say they compared Miami and ND.

They said they compared Alabama, ND, Miami, and BYU, and they felt the order of those 4 teams was Bama 9, ND 10, BYU 11, and Miami 12.

What happens if BYU loses and Bama wins? They already have Bama ahead, that obviously won't change with them winning the SEC. BYU very, very likely drops a spot or two.

So now you have Miami and ND, back to back, and you can directly compare them. I know I'm a parrot here, but this has happened 14 times this year. In all 14 instances, the H2H winner has been ahead of the H2H loser when those teams are directly next to each other in the poll. It's happening right now with OU and Bama. OU is 8, Bama is 9, they played, OU won.

It's also happening right now with Texas and Vanderbilt. Texas is 13, Vandy is 14, they played, Texas won. There have been 12 previous instances of this exact situation in the prior weeks. In all 12 of those, it was the same protocol. H2H winner is above H2H loser when they're sequential in the poll.

Having ND 10 and Miami 11 would be completely unprecedented for this particular committee. Doesn't mean it has to happen, there's no law, the committee doesn't get executed if they don't do this. But they're 14/14 so far this year in doing it.
 
canesigep23 said:
But that was while we were still separated by one or more teams (not that I agree with that rationale). But if we’re literally neck and neck, right next to each other, they have to weigh the H2H even more. The commissioner even said it as such:

“The head-to-head is one data point that the committee will use,” Yurachek said. “It’s easier to use when the teams are back-to-back as opposed to separated by a team or two or three as has been the case. Notre Dame is a winner of 10 straight, 10 game win streak, they outscored their opponents 440-143, have been very consistent offensively in how they run and pass, very explosive offense, third in offense. And a BYU team between them is 11-1.
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Exactly. 100%. See my post right above this one. He's literally saying what they've done 14 times. "It's easier to use H2H when the teams are back-to-back". Well first, no ****. But secondly, they've proven this is EXACTLY what they do. 14 times out of 14. Not one single time this year has a team been ranked one spot BELOW a team they beat. 14 times this year a team has been ranked one spot ABOVE a team they beat.

If ND is 10 and Miami is 11 on Sunday morning, they'll flip it, and Miami is in.
 
Tony4Canes said:
Someone remind me

Where was SMU ranked last year heading into ACCCG??
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SMU was 8 and fell to 10.

They lost to a team that was 17th, however.

Bama losing to UGA would be losing to the #3 team.

Going into the last weekend, it was:

SMU 8
Indiana 9
Boise 10

SMU lost to 17th ranked Clemson, and it went to:

Indiana 8
Boise 9
SMU 10

One thing to keep in mind though, Boise played a won a conference championship game that week. Indiana was idle. So SMU lost to #17, and they moved below an idle Indiana, and a Boise team who played and won. But they still stayed in the playoff field.
 
2001canes4L said:
I just realized that Boise state is in a conference championship game. Does them losing do anything to ND (ND beat them)? Would a loss for Boise **** with the SOS, SOR any of the other advanced stats I don’t care enough about to fully research? Do I really need to keep that game on Friday in the back of my mind?
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Yes- we want Boise to lose
 
filmcane said:
I've been having a spirited debate with an old delusional Irish fan (are there any other kind) and he keeps spouting that they have a stronger strength of schedule and of course it's silly - they're 42 and we're 44, but it would be nice if Boise lost and that SOS shifted a couple of spots.
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you might want to let him know that Notre Dame has a high Strength of Schedule because the only two good teams they played ...

THEY LOST.

Including Miami.
 
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TheATLCane said:
UVA losing can help us but not required. BYU must lose
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literally this is incorrect

if UVA loses then you are thinking Miami can take the ACC spot

but that is WRONG

it just goes automatically to James Madison or another G5

and makes the ACC look like a laughingstock

you think the CFP is going to help the ACC?!?!
 
90scane said:
Boise and byu losing are the keys to getting in over ND.
Duke winning could force the committee to give Miami a spot or the acc has none.
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what reason on earth does the Committee have to give Miami a spot and save the ACC?!!

they literally WANT the ACC to be humiliated.
 
passitback said:
I’m getting really tired of watching the NCAA stumble through its so-called “playoff selection process” while pretending it’s anything other than a thinly veiled professional league. The NCAA wants every benefit of a pro sports model without accepting any of the responsibility or structure that comes with it.

Here’s the core difference that exposes the whole charade:
The NFL (and the NBA) don’t beg fans to donate to pay their players. Player compensation is baked directly into the cost of doing business—tickets, parking, concessions, merchandise, broadcast deals. It’s transparent and professional. Meanwhile, the NCAA leans on its fanbases with the guilt-trip pitch for NIL funds like they’re passing around a church collection plate to subsidize their own multi-billion-dollar industry. They want market-value production from athletes but still market those athletes as “students first.” It’s a fake pro model wrapped in tired myths.

And the playoff selection process exposes this even more. The NCAA still relies on subjective narratives crafted decades ago—“gritty underdogs,” “tradition,” “feel-good stories,” the old Touchdown Johnny vibes—as if the sport hasn’t completely transformed. Those sentimental angles used to work, back when people bought into the illusion of amateurism. But that era is over. The money’s too big, the stakes are too high, and the athletes are far too valuable for the selection process to be based on vibes and résumé-storytelling from a committee in a conference room.

If the NCAA wants to operate like a professional league—and it already does in everything but name—then it’s time to objectify the system. Clear criteria. Transparent metrics. No more political favoritism. No more “eye test.” No more narrative snow-globe nonsense where teams are elevated because it makes a good segment on TV.

Either lean into being a professional enterprise or stop monetizing like one. But the middle-ground act is exhausted, exposed, and embarrassing. If the NCAA really wants legitimacy, it’s past time to stop pretending and start treating playoff selection like the business it actually is.
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This is it. Spot on. High end college football as it was known for almost 150 years is gone. Money has seen to that. And with the real possibility of direct payments to players (no need for the ridiculous NIL sham), it will be a functionally professional sport at the upper levels. The only question is how much players get paid - coaches are already making NFL level salaries or better.
The whole CFP nonsense is an anachronism, and like most anachronisms, must be replaced.
 
If Bama loses - they will moved ND to 9 and Bama to 10. STOPPP thinking they will move Bama out of playoffs. Just hope Bama wins and keeps miami and ND close at 10-11 where they have to pick between us. The national media campaign is advocating for us over ND (due to head to head), but we certainly want Bama to just win and secure the #9 spot. If they were to lose, hopefully its really ugly. But dont bet on that.
 
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