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Where is college football headed?

streetja said:
This probably doesn't stop the bagmen though. If all the players are getting paid the same or there's a cap, it would just mean the 5 stars are now being underpaid and the bagmen would come in to make up the difference.
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"Greed is Good" comes to mind
 
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hotshot said:
Miami's future championship hopes (based on cases like this plus our limited alumni endowment and resources), would indicate that basketball not football is where our future lies. Hard to see now but ... let's talk again in 15 years.
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Hard to argue against that when you see "lesser" schools doing it successfully.
 
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Canedog said:
College football is already pay for play at many elite programs.
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Exactly.

Which is why programs like Clemson were able to lose for years and still recruit at a high level. FSU the same.

Miami with it's NCAA problems has trouble doing that and so we can't afford losing seasons or our recruiting nosedives.

Make it so everyone can pay to play and you will see Miami getting every single top recruit we want again.
 
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I am not in favor of the colleges paying the kids as all athletes would go to court to get paid and the system would crumble. I say let the kids have agents and if Jonhy Football wants to get paid 10K to sign autographs at a card show let him. If car dealerships want to give the QB’s cars. Let them. If tattoo shops want to give free art let them. The kids who are in demand will get paid.
 
omaha said:
I am not in favor of the colleges paying the kids as all athletes would go to court to get paid and the system would crumble. I say let the kids have agents and if Jonhy Football wants to get paid 10K to sign autographs at a card show let him. If car dealerships want to give the QB’s cars. Let them. If tattoo shops want to give free art let them. The kids who are in demand will get paid.
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That's why it won't work, if everyone isn't getting it, then it's impermissable.
 
MaxCanes said:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...usher-in-new-round-of-conference-realignment/

Unfortunately, it's only a matter of time before pay for play happens legally in college and permanently ruins the sport. You think the system is rigged now with Miami unable to compete with the money being thrown at recruits? Imagine what it will be like when it's fully and openly sanctioned by the conferences and universities. It will be the pro model. Hopefully, they can throw in some salary caps if and when this happens!
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It's going where ever the dollar takes them , soon to be like the NFL then pay per view eventually phasing out the middle class.

GOCANES
 
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streetja said:
That 64 team super league with 4 16 team divisions sounds like a good idea. It would finally pit the teams so **** bent on paying whatever it takes to land the top guys together and we no longer see the bull**** we see today of teams who pay for their players vs teams who don't. Only sad thing is is that we wouldn't qualify and be apart of the top division.
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I'm not so sure about that. Miami is still one of the best draws for TV. It would help a league like that to have Miami in it. And, in time it would generate more cash for the Canes.
 
They should be treated like professional athletes. Only reason they haven't been yet is the business models that have been built around these young men. Everyone is getting paid except them.

I think it would be good for the long term health of football to create something akin to club teams that mentor and groom talent.

And in a more traditional market system, I like Miami's chances more than Tuscaloosa.
 
boxtonenyc said:
It would be better this way.

Stop the charade that kids are here for school, that kids arent already getting paid.

Put a salary cap on coaching staffs and player salaries, with profit sharing amongst everyone, and Miami would actually do BETTER.

Imagine we could as openly pay players as Clemson and LSU and Auburn etc etc etc do?
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This, actually makes sense, if it comes to compensating players. It would keep the CFB platform intact in certain respects.
 
In case this last week wasn't depressing enough, now this. I'm glad I got to ride those progarm glory years because the horizon is getting further away - the guy who said had we not slipped into the ACC; we'd be in USF, UCF territory - man that opened my eyes...

On the other hand, I played small college ball, and not that it would have benifited me, but I had some buddies who played D-1 and they should have a cut of what schools make from marketing them.

Don't tell me you get paid with an education; you also get carry injuries with you the rest of your life that you pay for. 90% of the guys I played with (that I'm still incontact with, about 30% of the team, a few have passed) have been through between two and nine surgeries related to those 4 years. Some CTE in there too - and this was from playing in the 70s. Of course none of us would have traded it - its why young men fight wars...
 
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It might level the playing field somewhat for the U. The problem I see is that the NCAA doesn't, or won't, regulate the bag game in it's present form. Those schools with unlimited "resources" would have kids going to the highest bidder with heavy bags not reported - similar to what happens now only even more money would be involved. More money to the kids, but where is the line drawn?

It would also leave many recruits that are not 4 & 5* with empty pockets - similar to what it is now. Only the elite would benefit more than they do currently.
 
Get rid of the sports that don't bring in any revenue, cut rosters down to saaaaay 55-60 players, and you can pay CFB players. You know, cut costs, like a real business...system as it is now is socialism.
 
Simple solutions:

1. Athletic Department spending caps on a per sport basis, set to allow competitive balance and sufficiency (rising propotionally to inflation each year) You get a set amount, so you have to decide how much you pay assistant coaches per annum, how much you pay for recruiting expenses per annum, how much of a new head coach will cost in the out years...Skill, as opposed to bigger schools outspending smaller schools being the deciding factor in championships. Sure, you still will have the taxpayer giving state schools an advantage in real property and pensions, but at least a lot more balanced then what happens now.

2. With spending capped to less of an insane level, the conferences will take a large share of their TV money and set it aside to provide a post-playing career annuity to college athletes, with annuity value set by each relative sports revenue (Title IX may force a minimum). If an athlete passes before the athlete receives his full annuity, his/her beneficiary gets it. This way you keep the intrinsic student-athlete value that straight pay destroys, while compensating the athlete appropriately for the revenue thay have generated.

Of course, this shifts power from Jim Delaney and Greg Sankey, so it will never happen...They will ride the current golden goose until she runs out of eggs and the whole thing comes crashing down.
 
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CaneFan79 said:
Simple solutions:

1. Athletic Department spending caps on a per sport basis, set to allow competitive balance and sufficiency (rising propotionally to inflation each year) You get a set amount, so you have to decide how much you pay assistant coaches per annum, how much you pay for recruiting expenses per annum, how much of a new head coach will cost in the out years...Skill, as opposed to bigger schools outspending smaller schools being the deciding factor in championships. Sure, you still will have the taxpayer giving state schools an advantage in real property and pensions, but at least a lot more balanced then what happens now.

2. With spending capped to less of an insane level, the conferences will take a large share of their TV money and set it aside to provide a post-playing career annuity to college athletes, with annuity value set by each relative sports revenue (Title IX may force a minimum). If an athlete passes before the athlete receives his full annuity, his/her beneficiary gets it. This way you keep the intrinsic student-athlete value that straight pay destroys, while compensating the athlete appropriately for the revenue thay have generated.

Of course, this shifts power from Jim Delaney and Greg Sankey, so it will never happen...They will ride the current golden goose until she runs out of eggs and the whole thing comes crashing down.
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The only hole I see in that is the annuity based on revenue, that will still push kids to the top schools, when you see the revenue of say Texas A&M vs Miami. Seems to me kids that look that far ahead would automatically go to schools with higher revenues.
Overall I'm not a fan of the annuity aspect, I don't feel the athletes are owed support beyond their playing careers, they did after all get an education.
 
QuatroCane said:
The only hole I see in that is the annuity based on revenue, that will still push kids to the top schools, when you see the revenue of say Texas A&M vs Miami. Seems to me kids that look that far ahead would automatically go to schools with higher revenues.
Overall I'm not a fan of the annuity aspect, I don't feel the athletes are owed support beyond their playing careers, they did after all get an education.
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LMFAO what a shock that the clown who loves Rick is also on the wrong side of this argument.

These kids dont get an education. A football player’s piece of paper from the University of Miami Sports Management program is virtually meaningless.
 
Schools paying players is costly and foolish. Let student-athletes profit off their likeness. Artificially restricting the earning potential of athletes in the name of "amateurism" defies the economic system that everyone else is subject to. It's completely absurd.

This would actually level the playing field for Miami because the bag schools already treat the amateurism rules like they don't exist. Cane players would sell a lot of merchandise, be popular paid guests at events, autograph signings, car rentals, etc.

The mercenary recruits never choose Miami now so if the floodgates were opened we might actually land some.
 
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