forums

What I'm seeing and hearing...

View as article
Advertisement
Memnon said:
You know why he's running that stupid condensed look?

BECAUSE THE QB CAN ONLY THROW CERTAIN ROUTES & ISN'T READING THE DEFENSE.

Do you think Dawson just decided out of nowhere to go from the #1 Offense in the Nation last year, to just play in a phonebooth this year for no reason at all?

The Offense is the way it is because the QB has handicapped it.
Click to expand...
So him and Mario are 1 for 3 when it comes to QBs. Same issues that he had with Van Dyke right? I’m in no way absolving Beck of anything. But there’s plenty of QBs in CFb who don’t have 1st round arms yet they don’t jam everyone into a phone booth.
 
Last edited:
PennsylvaniaCane said:
So him and Mario are 1 for 2 when it comes to QBs. Same issues that he had with Van Dyke right? I’m in no way absolving Beck of anything. But there’s plenty of QBs in CFb who don’t have 1st round arms yet they don’t jam everyone into a phone booth.
Click to expand...

Saying a kid who has started 35 games at the P4 level is so incompetent you can’t call a single play action pass in 4 games in a short yardage situation is the good stuff.

Mario and Dawson, or Dawson at Mario’s direction, have decided a slow, ball-control offense that allows the defense to get maximum rest is the best recipe to win games. And it might have worked, but I don’t think anybody anticipated being incapable of going an entire drive without getting an offensive penalty.

We’re also too slow to adapt to the scouting that’s being done against us because we’re stubborn and “it worked last year”. The same plays aren’t working this year because defenses aren’t going to let it beat them. And we’re too dumb to adapt. Just keep pounding your head into a brick wall thinking last year will magically appear. Well, when the defense puts 10 guys in the box and all 10 inside the B gaps, and you have a 260lb center, good luck running those inside runs. They’re still successful getting 1-2 yards most of the time, but last year it was automatic. This year, not so much. But it took 8 games to recognize this, somehow.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Saying a kid who has started 35 games at the P4 level is so incompetent you can’t call a single play action pass in 4 games in a short yardage situation is the good stuff.

Mario and Dawson, or Dawson at Mario’s direction, have decided a slow, ball-control offense that allows the defense to get maximum rest is the best recipe to win games. And it might have worked, but I don’t think anybody anticipated being incapable of going an entire drive without getting an offensive penalty.

We’re also too slow to adapt to the scouting that’s being done against us because we’re stubborn and “it worked last year”. The same plays aren’t working this year because defenses aren’t going to let it beat them. And we’re too dumb to adapt. Just keep pounding your head into a brick wall thinking last year will magically appear. Well, when the defense puts 10 guys in the box and all 10 inside the B gaps, and you have a 260lb center, good luck running those inside runs. They’re still successful getting 1-2 yards most of the time, but last year it was automatic. This year, not so much. But it took 8 games to recognize this, somehow.
Click to expand...
Mirabal Tiny mitts all over this thing too
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Saying a kid who has started 35 games at the P4 level is so incompetent you can’t call a single play action pass in 4 games in a short yardage situation is the good stuff.

Mario and Dawson, or Dawson at Mario’s direction, have decided a slow, ball-control offense that allows the defense to get maximum rest is the best recipe to win games. And it might have worked, but I don’t think anybody anticipated being incapable of going an entire drive without getting an offensive penalty.

We’re also too slow to adapt to the scouting that’s being done against us because we’re stubborn and “it worked last year”. The same plays aren’t working this year because defenses aren’t going to let it beat them. And we’re too dumb to adapt. Just keep pounding your head into a brick wall thinking last year will magically appear. Well, when the defense puts 10 guys in the box and all 10 inside the B gaps, and you have a 260lb center, good luck running those inside runs. They’re still successful getting 1-2 yards most of the time, but last year it was automatic. This year, not so much. But it took 8 games to recognize this, somehow.
Click to expand...
No the good stuff is all the excuses you guys keep making when the film doesn't support any of it.

But as I said before, I look forward to continued mental gymnastics for yall' immaculate QB who keeps throwing the ball to the other team because Dawson tells him to.
 
JHallCanes said:
I’d actually like to see Gilbert more as well

Both of em
Click to expand...
Brock is out for the Syracuse game. But yeah I want to see Gilbert. Bauman has basically given us nothing so can the freshman give us nothing as well?

Problem with the money being paid to players is sometimes you feel you gotta pay them and play them
 
305407cane said:
Brock is out for the Syracuse game. But yeah I want to see Gilbert. Bauman has basically given us nothing so can the freshman give us nothing as well?

Problem with the money being paid to players is sometimes you feel you gotta pay them and play them
Click to expand...
Sunk cost fallacy. If you missed, you missed.
 
Advertisement
Memnon said:
No the good stuff is all the excuses you guys keep making when the film doesn't support any of it.

But as I said before, I look forward to continued mental gymnastics for yall' immaculate QB who keeps throwing the ball to the other team because Dawson tells him to.
Click to expand...

I never said he was immaculate. Can’t speak for others. I did say he’s capable of executing a play-action pass on a short yardage situation more often than once every third of a season. Unfortunately the coaching staff is braindead.

I’m sure he’ll hit an explosive this week though on a 2nd and short shot, and the whole board will say “where the **** has that been?!” And they’ll be right.
 
The biggest issue in short yardage plays is we no longer have Martinez. That dude, no matter what, always got us the yard we needed. We don’t have that player this year. Yet the play calling seems to do indicate they think we do. Wake up Dawson. Change the narrative.
 
Memnon said:
- Who didn't know what type of player Beck was before he joined the roster...

At least 80% of the board. Go reread any & every thread about him before the season started, there may have been 2 or 3 people max, who didn't expect Beck to be a Heisman candidate & #1 draft pick. The overwhelming majority of the board had Beck as the best or at the very least top 3 QB's in the Nation.

The Offense IS designed to work to his strengths & minimize his weaknesses, that's why we run the ball so much & have simplified everything in terms of the route patterns & play call sequences after the initial scripted first drive.

This isn't the same Offense as last year because there's an entire chapter in the playbook that cannot be called because Beck can't make certain throws. The Seam patterns, Outside Deep Digs, Posts are all gone from this year because Beck can't read the Rover. The Dagger concept made his brain glitch against Florida. We can't run Sails, or Scissors at all because he's been baited due to his bad eye discipline.

So last year it was Mike Bobo's fault, the WR's fault, the RB's fault & the OL's fault. Now it's Dawson & the OL's fault? The Elite OL with multiple 1st rounders... The supposed best OL in the Nation?
Click to expand...
I completely disagree with you on most of what you just wrote.

- I was saying the COACHES should have known Becks strengths and weaknesses. They are the ones that went out and brought him here. It is clearly THEIR Failure to not have gameplan that even makes it a 1% possibility of a 15+ yard run or multiple 20+ yard passes a game. It is their Failure for going for a QB who was just coming off a season with a high TWP rate and then turtling everytime he makes a negative play. It is their failure for going after a QB coming off a major injury, paying him multiple millions, and then essentially putting zero trust in him at all.

- Beck absolutely could have been a heisman candidate. lmao what are you even talking about? He literally already was after like 5 weeks. And that wasn't even close to his form in 2023. It's about stats. We 100% could have put up an offense that didn't suck **** this year and was aggressive and would have had him at least in the race. Not sure he really ever had much of a shot of being pick #1, except for the fact this Qb class currently sucks.... Like everytime you talk about Beck you literally act like 2023 didn't exist. You basically always act like these pocket Qbs who dont "create" are incapable of leading a high quality offense. It really doesn't make much sense. It's up to the coaches to actually put the QB they went out and got in the best situation to succeed FOR THEM. It was ******* abundantly obvious that we should NOT have had the same offense as last year if we were getting Beck. LIke Idk why this isn't fully obvious. Look I wasn't a Beck fan before he got here, I'm not a big fan of him here. I didn't want him because I didn't think he'd A) Be worth the money or B) Worth the injury risk especially over other alternatives. But He is a competent CFB Qb. Even last year when you say he sucked, he was still better than MOST CFB Qbs lol, and that WAS with a WR unit that like led the nation in drops.

- If you actually think this offense is designed to work to his strength we see things 1,000% differently. This offense isn't currently designed to work to anyones strengths. It's literally designed to work to a Qb who has no strengths. And I get you're basically saying Beck has no strengths cause you think he sucks, but he obviously doesn't. This offense is the EXACT same offense they'd have been rolling out if Emory was our Starting Qb. Its ******* BS. This isn't about Running the ball so much. That isn't the ******* problem with this offense. Idgaf about the Run : Pass ratio, as I said previously.

- Lol wonder how UGA used Beck with Ladd and Bowers. Guess there were no seams/dagers/posts/ any of that used then, right? lmao.
 
edge said:
The biggest issue in short yardage plays is we no longer have Martinez. That dude, no matter what, always got us the yard we needed. We don’t have that player this year. Yet the play calling seems to do indicate they think we do. Wake up Dawson. Change the narrative.
Click to expand...

I’ll bet Fletcher’s success rate on those plays last year was way over 90% as well.

The difference is, this year, defenses are saying I don’t give a **** about anything else, I’m literally not gonna let you run the ball in the A-gap on 3rd or 4th and short. I’ll put my entire defense within a 5x3 yard box. Because you won’t call anything else to beat me. And since the FSU game, they’ve been 100% correct.

Martinez was a good player, don’t get me wrong. But we’re outside the top 100 in yards before contact this year. Think about that. I’m almost positive that number was top 10 last year. You have to break a tendency once in a while and do something different. Unfortunately the season is over before our coaches realized that.
 
Memnon said:
No the good stuff is all the excuses you guys keep making when the film doesn't support any of it.

But as I said before, I look forward to continued mental gymnastics for yall' immaculate QB who keeps throwing the ball to the other team because Dawson tells him to.
Click to expand...
Lol imagine defending this staff not going with heavy Play action on an offense where the entire scheme appears to be run heavy up the ******* A gap, because you hate the qb so much lol
 
edge said:
The biggest issue in short yardage plays is we no longer have Martinez. That dude, no matter what, always got us the yard we needed. We don’t have that player this year. Yet the play calling seems to do indicate they think we do. Wake up Dawson. Change the narrative.
Click to expand...
Fletcher has always been a perfectly capable short yardage and goalline Rb. RB isn't the issue in short yardage. At all imo.
 
Advertisement
STG said:
Mar

Mario, is that you? The amount of excuses in this post are nauseating. Jeezus what utter nonsense. I mean, literally pointing to losing to a team by X points as some achievement, just might get you the ultimate Mario guzzler award.

The PAC 12 was straight trash when he happened to be at Oregon. Both Washington and USC were down during that time.

That Washington team he was 3-1 against, was 25-18 during his 4 years at Oregon.

USC was 21-21 during his 4 years at Oregon.

The best team in the conference over the 4 year span he was the HC at Oregon was Utah (33-14), and guess what, he was 1-3 against them.

As a 7 point favorite against Arizona in 2018, he lost by 29.

As a 13 point favorite against Arizon State in 2019, he lost.

As a 13 point favorite against Oregon State in 2020, he lost.

As a 9 point favorite against Cal in 2020, he lost.

As a 8.5 point favorite against Stanford in 2021, he lost.

At Oregon, he was 7-6 against ranked opponents.

Thus far during his tenure at Miami, where he has had the highest paid staff and roster of any team in the conference, he has delivered a conference record of 14-14 (50%) with no conference championships or even an appearance.

In comparison, Manny Diaz was 16-9 (64%) in ACC play during his 3 years at Miami. Mark Richt was 16-8 (67%) during his 3 years at Miami. Both with substantially better results in coference, with no financial support to speak of. Unlike Mario, who has had one of the best budgets to work with in the country.

Furthermore, Mario is 4-6 against ranked opponents (at the time they played) while at Miami.

But the best is always saved for last, as we all know, he has lost 6 games as a double digit favorite in 3.5 years at Miami. The most by any HC in FBS during that time span.

So stop with the bull**** excuses. The guy is a flat out bum as a HC.
Click to expand...
You guys are delusional. You cannot even name ten coaches who aren’t bums unless you start talking about unproven coaches who aren’t in the p4; who gives af what Diaz and Richt were in their first 3 years when they had to get the first train outta town because the roster was trash af after the third season. Every HC has flaws.

Mark Richt and Mario are actually builders which is why their successors were able to elevate off of those foundations. Manny spoke to his quarterback commit twice in twelve months lmao.

Some coaches who were hired in 2022: Lincoln Riley, Mario Cristobal, Brian Kelly, Brent Venables,and Billy Napier. Mario is just doing fine amongst this group. Is 7-2 Steve Sark who lost to UF the answer to our problems? Remind again of his record in the PAC12? Is Chris Peterson who won 62% of his PAC12 conference games the answer? Kyle Whittingham forgot how to coach the years Mario was in the PAC12; a decade after going undefeated and beating ‘Bama?


We hadn’t beat Clemson since 2010; were elated that the ACC snubbed us to let Notre Dame play them in the ACC championship game after losing 38 to 3 LMAO; and now after we beat them yall are acting like our 💩 ain’t stank this whole time ahahaha. We’re flipping Clemson recruits & it is met with yawns. They were on a four game winning streak against Miami with a combined point differential of +148. Or in other words, ann average victory of 37 points per game. They scored 20 points on us.

Manny lost to a 5 win FSU team ending our streak of four straight wins. The only P4 team with 8 wins he beat was NC State in 2020. In 2019 he beat 3 teams with 8 wins, on his way to a 6-7 finish that included losing to Butch Davis at FIU LMAO. He also lost to his future employer; Duke. He barely beat App State and Central Michigan. His previous employer Mack Brown smacked him upside the head. Guy was putrid in big games.

Did Bill Belichick and Bill O Brien forget how to coach and UNC/BC should’ve kept Mack Brown and Jeff Hafley? Or is the NFL just easier than the ACC?

:roll-canes2::jordan:

************ is quoting sports betting lines to make a point. Pathetic.
 
Back
Top