What if at DC

[Al Foil]

John Jancek from Tenn is gaining traction right now as DC.

Was DC under Richt at GA.

Willie Martinez, also currently at Tenn, would join as DB coach.

Maybe even Tommy Thigpen who coached under Butch at UNC and is also currently at Tenn.

 

[Zbrod95]

John Jancek from Tenn is gaining traction right now as DC.

Was DC under Richt at GA.

Willie Martinez, also currently at Tenn, would join as DB coach.

Maybe even Tommy Thigpen who coached under Butch at UNC and is also currently at Tenn.

ok but would he leave Tennessee for us knowing they're probably in position to win 9-10 games next year with his defense leading the way?

 

[Zbrod95]

I don't think it's even close. Richt's an OC/HC. We're so much better off hiring an accomplished, proven DC like Ohio State did hiring Schiano and Bama did hiring Pruitt.

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

I don't think it's even close. Richt's an OC/HC. We're so much better off hiring an accomplished, proven DC like Ohio State did hiring Schiano and Bama did hiring Pruitt.

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

Right on, Mr. New Porster... I'm sure I'll get more if I just follow your lead. Franchise has been talking about Don Brown, Defensive Coordinator at Boston College, as a perfect example of someone who fits what we need.

I'm with the OP on Don Brown.

"Better job" is completely subjective. I get that Miami is a better program than BC. But BC (or anywhere in the NE) might be the better place for Brown.

NOTHING in his coaching history suggests he is even remotely interested in moving to South Florida.

And I doubt he's "money motivated" enough to want to coach at a place he doesn't want to be.

Throw the farm at the guy to come still may not work. Texas just tried that with a guy who's already coaching in the state, and he still turned them down. At the level these guys are coaching, it's not ALWAYS just about throwing a few more dollars at the guy.

I don't know that it's a money thing. I don't know what motivates Brown. He's had success at BC. Maybe he'd like to see what he could do with Miami-level talent in our recruiting base with Richt as HC???

but it's the connections for recruiting down here remember it's a totally different ball game down here. Just ask al golden lol, but again the guy can flat coach

 

[MIATL]

I don't think it's even close. Richt's an OC/HC. We're so much better off hiring an accomplished, proven DC like Ohio State did hiring Schiano and Bama did hiring Pruitt.

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

I don't think it's even close. Richt's an OC/HC. We're so much better off hiring an accomplished, proven DC like Ohio State did hiring Schiano and Bama did hiring Pruitt.

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

Right on, Mr. New Porster... I'm sure I'll get more if I just follow your lead. Franchise has been talking about Don Brown, Defensive Coordinator at Boston College, as a perfect example of someone who fits what we need.

I'm with the OP on Don Brown.

"Better job" is completely subjective. I get that Miami is a better program than BC. But BC (or anywhere in the NE) might be the better place for Brown.

NOTHING in his coaching history suggests he is even remotely interested in moving to South Florida.

And I doubt he's "money motivated" enough to want to coach at a place he doesn't want to be.

Throw the farm at the guy to come still may not work. Texas just tried that with a guy who's already coaching in the state, and he still turned them down. At the level these guys are coaching, it's not ALWAYS just about throwing a few more dollars at the guy.

I don't know that it's a money thing. I don't know what motivates Brown. He's had success at BC. Maybe he'd like to see what he could do with Miami-level talent in our recruiting base with Richt as HC???

Agree.

Ask about his interest. Because maybe he does want to come South.

But I'm just trying to temper the "Don Brown or bust" sentiment that appears to be picking up steam ...

 

[FullyERicht]

Winston moss would be a great hire for DC too but I guess he's not qualified according to the self anointed message board head coaches because he hasn't been a defensive coordinator yet. Never mind his 17 years of experience coaching in the NFL LOL....

Winston Moss has never called a play in his life, and has worked under 3-4 zone blitz teams his entire NFL career. He would be a god awful hire. U really have no shame do you? Coming on here talking ish after the way you slurped Golden.

Miami is not in a position to hire a rookie DC. Not with the HC being the playcaller on offense, and not after the worst defenses we have ever fielded. I swear, you people still care more about how a guy looks than if he can coach. It's extremely bizarre.

 

[FullyERicht]

LOLOL OP stated he wanted Ruffin McNeil as DC.....guy hasnt coached a good defense in his life, but bc he looks cool and has a cool name, the 18 year old OP loves him. You cant make it up folks.

 

[brock]

Winston moss would be a great hire for DC too but I guess he's not qualified according to the self anointed message board head coaches because he hasn't been a defensive coordinator yet. Never mind his 17 years of experience coaching in the NFL LOL....

Winston Moss has never called a play in his life, and has worked under 3-4 zone blitz teams his entire NFL career. He would be a god awful hire. U really have no shame do you? Coming on here talking ish after the way you slurped Golden.

Miami is not in a position to hire a rookie DC. Not with the HC being the playcaller on offense, and not after the worst defenses we have ever fielded. I swear, you people still care more about how a guy looks than if he can coach. It's extremely bizarre.

Care about how he looks? What?

 

[3FW]

From everything I have heard and read, I would not be surprised if we don't know who the DC will be until after the NFL has wrapped up.

 

[Gatorhater]

.. Your right he was just the head coach at ole miss for 4 years and a finalist for the use 2 years when he was interim

He was fired after 3 years at Ole Miss and threw a fit when he didn't get the full time job at USCw. There's a strong reason the man hasn't been a coordinator and was unsuccessful as a head coach. Not everyone is a #1 and in his case he isn't a #2 but a very very good #3 . He's good with his DL's and an ace recruiter. His value is there.

oh **** sorry about sounding rude bro I just read what I wrote but there has to be a reason he makes 650,000 a year as dl coach and he also has UM ties

Novel theory here, bro, but hear me out. I think the reason he's making a lot of money as a DL coach is because he's a very good and proven DL coach and recruiter, bro.

If he was qualified to be a head coach at Ole miss and interim head coach at USC and was successful at that particularly stint then I don't see why he couldn't be a defensive coordinator

Just because someone can grill a steak and set a beautiful table does not mean they can bake bread. Different skill sets.

 

[RVACane]

I don't think it's even close. Richt's an OC/HC. We're so much better off hiring an accomplished, proven DC like Ohio State did hiring Schiano and Bama did hiring Pruitt.

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

I don't think it's even close. Richt's an OC/HC. We're so much better off hiring an accomplished, proven DC like Ohio State did hiring Schiano and Bama did hiring Pruitt.

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

Right on, Mr. New Porster... I'm sure I'll get more if I just follow your lead. Franchise has been talking about Don Brown, Defensive Coordinator at Boston College, as a perfect example of someone who fits what we need.

I'm with the OP on Don Brown.

"Better job" is completely subjective. I get that Miami is a better program than BC. But BC (or anywhere in the NE) might be the better place for Brown.

NOTHING in his coaching history suggests he is even remotely interested in moving to South Florida.

And I doubt he's "money motivated" enough to want to coach at a place he doesn't want to be.

Throw the farm at the guy to come still may not work. Texas just tried that with a guy who's already coaching in the state, and he still turned them down. At the level these guys are coaching, it's not ALWAYS just about throwing a few more dollars at the guy.

I don't think it's even close. Richt's an OC/HC. We're so much better off hiring an accomplished, proven DC like Ohio State did hiring Schiano and Bama did hiring Pruitt.

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

Right on, Mr. New Porster... I'm sure I'll get more if I just follow your lead. Franchise has been talking about Don Brown, Defensive Coordinator at Boston College, as a perfect example of someone who fits what we need.

I'm with the OP on Don Brown.

"Better job" is completely subjective. I get that Miami is a better program than BC. But BC (or anywhere in the NE) might be the better place for Brown.

NOTHING in his coaching history suggests he is even remotely interested in moving to South Florida.

And I doubt he's "money motivated" enough to want to coach at a place he doesn't want to be.

Throw the farm at the guy to come still may not work. Texas just tried that with a guy who's already coaching in the state, and he still turned them down. At the level these guys are coaching, it's not ALWAYS just about throwing a few more dollars at the guy.

I don't know that it's a money thing. I don't know what motivates Brown. He's had success at BC. Maybe he'd like to see what he could do with Miami-level talent in our recruiting base with Richt as HC???

Agree.

Ask about his interest. Because maybe he does want to come South.

But I'm just trying to temper the "Don Brown or bust" sentiment that appears to be picking up steam ...

I'm on that Brown bandwagon for now but I'm sure I'll jump on the next one that picks up steam, as long as it's a guy who's done it before as a D.C.

 

[RVACane]

I don't think it's even close. Richt's an OC/HC. We're so much better off hiring an accomplished, proven DC like Ohio State did hiring Schiano and Bama did hiring Pruitt.

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

But there isn't any that haven't been fired that don't have better jobs. I don't think you guys are getting that

Right on, Mr. New Porster... I'm sure I'll get more if I just follow your lead. Franchise has been talking about Don Brown, Defensive Coordinator at Boston College, as a perfect example of someone who fits what we need.

I'm with the OP on Don Brown.

"Better job" is completely subjective. I get that Miami is a better program than BC. But BC (or anywhere in the NE) might be the better place for Brown.

NOTHING in his coaching history suggests he is even remotely interested in moving to South Florida.

And I doubt he's "money motivated" enough to want to coach at a place he doesn't want to be.

Throw the farm at the guy to come still may not work. Texas just tried that with a guy who's already coaching in the state, and he still turned them down. At the level these guys are coaching, it's not ALWAYS just about throwing a few more dollars at the guy.

I don't know that it's a money thing. I don't know what motivates Brown. He's had success at BC. Maybe he'd like to see what he could do with Miami-level talent in our recruiting base with Richt as HC???

but it's the connections for recruiting down here remember it's a totally different ball game down here. Just ask al golden lol, but again the guy can flat coach

Now that's the crux of it right there, OP. I think we need to focus more on "can flat out coach" and less on "connections for recruiting" as that's what we've missed most... good coaching. I'm sure we'll have guys on staff that can recruit.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Winston moss would be a great hire for DC too but I guess he's not qualified according to the self anointed message board head coaches because he hasn't been a defensive coordinator yet. Never mind his 17 years of experience coaching in the NFL LOL....

Winston Moss has never called a play in his life, and has worked under 3-4 zone blitz teams his entire NFL career. He would be a god awful hire. U really have no shame do you? Coming on here talking ish after the way you slurped Golden.

Miami is not in a position to hire a rookie DC. Not with the HC being the playcaller on offense, and not after the worst defenses we have ever fielded. I swear, you people still care more about how a guy looks than if he can coach. It's extremely bizarre.

This.

 

[orange&green84]

oh **** sorry about sounding rude bro I just read what I wrote but there has to be a reason he makes 650,000 a year as dl coach and he also has UM ties

Novel theory here, bro, but hear me out. I think the reason he's making a lot of money as a DL coach is because he's a very good and proven DL coach and recruiter, bro.

If he was qualified to be a head coach at Ole miss and interim head coach at USC and was successful at that particularly stint then I don't see why he couldn't be a defensive coordinator

You're absolutely right. Being a failed HC and an interim HC qualifies him to be a DC. Makes perfect sense, broke. Are you and OP Siamese twins? Larry Scott would be a great OC because he's been interim HC here for several games.

Cmon man it's just an opinion, in that logic you would say a guy like Mike London would suck at being a defensive coordinator because he failed as head coach or let's use our own cane blood randy Shannon who was better than golden but still bad as a head coach, you can't use that as being the final barometer if they can be a defensive coordinator or not. Shannon has UF linebackers playing at an elite level and when he was a defensive coordinator here our defenses were great

You know you're defeated when you respond with "Cmon man". London was at one point a DC in his career, Oregeron never was. You can have opinions all you want. But you don't want your coordinators to be recruiters. You want these guys to be the X's and O's. Richt's going to need a solid DC hire to compete and win here at Miami. He can slack on the OC hire and maybe get a recruiter there, because Richt will be calling the plays. Having a DC in training has disaster written all over it.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

John Jancek from Tenn is gaining traction right now as DC.

Was DC under Richt at GA.

Willie Martinez, also currently at Tenn, would join as DB coach.

Maybe even Tommy Thigpen who coached under Butch at UNC and is also currently at Tenn.

So now Richt is gonna hire two people he **** canned from UGA? Sounds legit.

 

[406Cane]

Could we just get Orgeron some job like they did for that bumbling dunce in "Casino" because his cousin was county commissioner? We could have him recruit for us, and keep him away from the masses, and he couldn't find away to ***** our defense up....a win-win for everyone.

 

[RVACane]

Could we just get Orgeron some job like they did for that bumbling dunce in "Casino" because his cousin was county commissioner? We could have him recruit for us, and keep him away from the masses, and he couldn't find away to ***** our defense up....a win-win for everyone.

Let's give him a friend to play with... I nominate James Coley

 

[Zbrod95]

LOLOL OP stated he wanted Ruffin McNeil as DC.....guy hasnt coached a good defense in his life, but bc he looks cool and has a cool name, the 18 year old OP loves him. You cant make it up folks.

Good afternoon FullyERicht, since you feel you need to berate people with your moronic comments let me give you some knowledge. One, since you read my bio you probably read that I was a four year varsity starter and my father is a retired nfl scout and I've been around football since before I could walk , I don't go around disrespecting other people's opinion because I was raised to respect other people's opinion now matter how idiotic it sounded. Secondly I did not change my mind Ruffin McNeil was hired at Virginia so he's no longer a candidate also to say that Ruffin McNeil can't coach is unfounded. He has held the position 4 times (3 times under offensive coaches at UNLV, Fresno state and, Texas tech).In fact in 2010 when he was named interim DC for Texas tech the defense improved from 7th in pass defense, ninth in total defense, and tenth in scoring defense in the big 12 to 1st in pass and total defense and fourth in scoring defense. He also has shown the ability to add 3-4 elements to a 4-3 defense that coach richt talked about in his press conference since he switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 when he was hired at ECU and his defense gave up 102 less yards a game and improved its rating 64 places and finished in the top half of all fbs programs and in 2013 his team finished top 15 on both sides of the ball in 12 categories. That in itself is impressive anywhere you coach. Thirdly, I created this thread to have healthy conversations about who should be the next DC, not to have to have others berate and bully by calling someone's opinion idiotic. Seriously it's shameful that a 20 y/o college kid has to tell this to adults. Please don't try to call me out for being rude to ball because I apologized to him after I realized I came off rude. To the majority of you thank you for giving great opinions from Doc brown, John jancek, and Winston Moss. All three are quality coaches and would be great hires even though Winston moss does coach in a 3-4 Zone scheme (not zone blitz that doesn't exist) but if you want to coach football you need to be able to coach all schemes so the only thing that would matter is if you can recruit.

 

[406Cane]

Could we just get Orgeron some job like they did for that bumbling dunce in "Casino" because his cousin was county commissioner? We could have him recruit for us, and keep him away from the masses, and he couldn't find away to ***** our defense up....a win-win for everyone.

Let's give him a friend to play with... I nominate James Coley

It can be the "special" part of our staff. Show we're serious about doing things for people with disabilities.

 

[orange&green84]

John Jancek from Tenn is gaining traction right now as DC.

Was DC under Richt at GA.

Willie Martinez, also currently at Tenn, would join as DB coach.

Maybe even Tommy Thigpen who coached under Butch at UNC and is also currently at Tenn.

So now Richt is gonna hire two people he **** canned from UGA? Sounds legit.

Willie Martinez was fired as DC at UGA. If he came here and got hired as a DB coach, I'd be straight with it.

 

[Zbrod95]

John Jancek from Tenn is gaining traction right now as DC.

Was DC under Richt at GA.

Willie Martinez, also currently at Tenn, would join as DB coach.

Maybe even Tommy Thigpen who coached under Butch at UNC and is also currently at Tenn.

So now Richt is gonna hire two people he **** canned from UGA? Sounds legit.

Willie Martinez was fired as DC at UGA. If he came here and got hired as a DB coach, I'd be straight with it.

i agree. John jancek would be the only one considered out of this group in my eyes. He's done an admirable job at Tennessee in my eyes