Coaching What Are Your General Expectations Under Mario Cristobal?

[WeBallinBoyz]

I get that and I firmly agree, but calling ppl dumb in the same post where you say “no one is right or wrong” seems a bit like you’re taking sides. But what do I know?

I get that but the only people I’m calling dumb were the premature victory lappers that were dunking on people and bumping every post imaginable. I’m not necessarily calling people that believe in Mario dumb. I still think this is a much better situation (in a lot of facets) than we’ve experienced in the last 10+ years.

But I can see your point. I’ll chalk that up to writing this at 3am west coast time

 

[DMoney]

Very few have voted to fire him, so I don’t think anyone is really at that stage. Agreed though, 6-7 was my vote.

That being said, Ryan Day is also 76-10 in conference games. Mario is 14-13 in the ACC. They’re not even in the same stratosphere.

One has an issue against one specific team, the other loses routinely to a myriad of lesser-ranked and less-talented opponents.

Ryan Day also inherited a program from Urban Meyer, who was 73-8 in six seasons.

Building programs is hard. There is fair reason to wonder if Mario can build us all the way back to the top. But context matters.

 

[SSCane]

7 to 10 wins a season.
Always lose 2+ ACC games a season.
Never make the ACC title game or the playoffs.

That is Miami football and until proven otherwise, that will always be Miami football.

 

[CaneinBroward]

Are we really trying to figure out whether Mario can get it done or to figure out which group of ******** that dunks on others and bumps posts wins a cookie for making the prediction that Mario can or can't get it done?

If it's the latter, I'll go with the ******* mopes. Much better odds of a team not winning a championship.

 

[Cajuncane]

I expect Mario to take another generation to win anything and my old *** won’t be here to see it…….

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

Ryan Day also inherited a program from Urban Meyer, who was 73-8 in six seasons.

Building programs is hard. There is fair reason to wonder if Mario can build us all the way back to the top. But context matters.

100%. That’s why I haven’t thrown in the towel. Tons of things are much better under Mario than any predecessor. The roster, the funding, the attention to the program, etc. Even the results, as weird as it feels.

But there are very large warning signs and re-occurring issues that carry over year over year, and I don’t blame anyone that is growing increasingly impatient. We conquer the tough battles, we put ourselves in great position for meaningful football…but continue to self-destruct despite telling ourselves we’re beyond that.

At some point within this decade, we need to play meaningful postseason football. Maybe it’s this year - I still believe we can get to the playoff. But that requires fundamental changes, particularly in areas that he has a large influence in. I just hope he learns and adapts.

 

[DMoney]

100%. That’s why I haven’t thrown in the towel. Tons of things are much better under Mario than any predecessor.

But there are very large warning signs and re-occurring issues that carry over year over year, and I don’t blame anyone that is growing increasingly impatient. We conquer the tough battles, we put ourselves in great position for meaningful football…but continue to self-destruct despite telling ourselves we’re beyond that.

I think the most realistic projection is something similar to what he had at Oregon.

I’d love for him to exceed that level, but he can also undershoot it. He won two conference titles there, including a decisive one. He hasn’t done that here. We’ll see.

 

[TheShredder]

Ryan Day also inherited a program from Urban Meyer, who was 73-8 in six seasons.

Building programs is hard. There is fair reason to wonder if Mario can build us all the way back to the top. But context matters.

Some more context, we had more talent than everyone minus Clemson and maybe FSU every year Mario has been here.

 

[DMoney]

Some more context, we had more talent than everyone minus Clemson and maybe FSU every year Mario has been here.

The first year we were barren. We definitely should have won it last year.

 

[ADELPHI]

I am simply unable to even envision a scenario where we could make it to a national championship game let alone winning it with Mario in charge. I don’t know what goes on in the UM war room during the week but it certainly doesn’t feel like we have a lot of high level coaching acumen in there. Punching your fist into your hand and perseverating about how we have to just improve on fundamentals is not a strategy.

 

[TemplarCane]

Ball Don't Lie

2018 Oregon	Result
#12 Oregon at #25 Washington State	Lost 34-20
#19 Oregon at Arizona	Lost 44-15
2019 Oregon
#6 Oregon at Arizona	Lost 31-28
2020 Oregon
#9 Oregon at Oregon State	Lost 41-38
#21 Oregon at California	Lost 21-17
2021 Oregon
#3 Oregon at Stanford	Lost 31-24
#3 Oregon at 21 Utah	Lost 38-7
#10 Oregon at 17 Utah	Lost 38-10
2022 Miami
#25 Miami vs Middle Tenn State	Lost 45-31
2023 Miami
#17 Miami vs Georgia Tech	Lost 23-20
(The No-Kneel Game)
2024 Miami
#3 Miami at Georgia Tech	Lost 28-23
#6 Miami at Syracuse	Lost 42-38
2025 Miami
#2 Miami vs Louisville	Lost 24-21

 

[caneknight7575]

I think the most realistic projection is something similar to what he had at Oregon.

I’d love for him to exceed that level, but he can also undershoot it. He won two conference titles there, including a decisive one. He hasn’t done that here. We’ll see.

Why was Mario able to drop a game or two at Oregon but still win two titles and here it is like a snowball effect when we lose?

 

[MiamisMoperiestMopes]

Think we are 6-7 given the choice but want to be 8-9.

Think we’re more likely in and much closer to a 7-8 world than a 5-6.

 

[bobbydigius]

Why was Mario able to drop a game or two at Oregon but still win two titles and here it is like a snowball effect when we lose?

Remember that the second title was a complete technicality. He got to the PAC Chip game because Washington which at that point had the lead in the division had to back out because the entire team had covid.

 

[Schnelly'sPipe]

I trust and believe in Mario, he has a relentless work ethic and drive not seen in a lot of coaches but excuses are like ******** and no one wants to hear them.
I still have faith we can make a run with the talent we have but the mind boggling in game decisions are detrimental to any type of momentum and it’s beyond frustrating.

The refs were trash but that’s another story as always. Loserville isn’t the worst team but we never ever should have lost to them at home with howwww much momentum the progrum had going

Why does this always happen to us exposed by our defense looked like the same old Miami out of position getting roasted horrible zero wrap up tackling defense. why did they let Carson throw the ball so many times 35 to be exact… and we weren’t running it well but Fletcher had 8 carries lyle had 5… our bread and butter is our offensive line and RBs we have to run the ball with our starting backs more than 13 times a game we ran for a total of 24 times.. we ran 31 times vs Florida state for 97 hard fought must have yards, 46 times for 184 yards vs the Gators.. 38 times for 134 yards vs Notre dame, where the **** was Char Mar Brown he had 3 carries??!

Carson should only have to throw if he has to just like Ken Dorsey, game managing qb and that’s all, he’s not a true gunslinger and they are treating him like one horrible coaching, whyyyyy the **** did we not run the ball at the 30 something yard line and set up the fg to tie the game with timeouts left what in the **** was that!?!

I’m distraught from how we lost Coaching and horrible play on the field just not a good night of football

 

[423Hurricane]

I think the most realistic projection is something similar to what he had at Oregon.

I’d love for him to exceed that level, but he can also undershoot it. He won two conference titles there, including a decisive one. He hasn’t done that here. We’ll see.

Comparing apples to oranges is just dumb. We see it all the time and it doesn’t have much impact on future success because of the countless variables involved.

 

[bobbydigius]

I trust and believe in Mario, he has a relentless work ethic and drive not seen in a lot of coaches but excuses are like ******** and no one wants to hear them.
I still have faith we can make a run with the talent we have but the mind boggling in game decisions are detrimental to any type of momentum and it’s beyond frustrating.
Below is how I really feel right now

The refs were trash but that’s another story as always. Loserville isn’t the worst team but we never ever should have lost to them at home with howwww much momentum the progrum had going

Why does this always happen to us exposed by our defense looked like the same old Miami out of position getting roasted horrible zero wrap up tackling defense. why did they let Carson throw the ball so many times 35 to be exact… and we weren’t running it well but Fletcher had 8 carries lyle had 5… our bread and butter is our offensive line and RBs we have to run the ball with our starting backs more than 13 times a game we ran for a total of 24 times.. we ran 31 times vs Florida state for 97 hard fought must have yards, 46 times for 184 yards vs the Gators.. 38 times for 134 yards vs Notre dame, where the **** was Char Mar Brown he had 3 carries??!

Carson should only have to throw if he has to just like Ken Dorsey, game managing qb and that’s all, he’s not a true gunslinger and they are treating him like one horrible coaching, whyyyyy the **** did we not run the ball at the 30 something yard line and set up the fg to tie the game with timeouts left what in the **** was that!?!

I’m distraught from how we lost Coaching and horrible play on the field just not a good night of football

You can work harder than everyone else but it’s all for naught if there isn’t actual thought and purpose behind it all. Smarter not harder. Mario says all the right things but we lack discipline when he preaches it(penalties) and allows for bone head play calling within the run game(repeatedly running into 8 man plus fronts). No amount of work will actually change that when the plan is wrong.

 

[3GC]

Ga Tech in 2023 was my final straw with him. I was willing to forgive 2022 going 5-7 and getting butt ****ed by Middle Tennessee State at home.

EXACTLY..

 

[TemplarCane]

Remember that the second title was a complete technicality. He got to the PAC Chip game because Washington which at that point had the lead in the division had to back out because the entire team had covid.

To be fair, the Covid season was weird for most teams. I’m not critical of anyone had an off-season that year.

 

[JHallCanes]

The first few years were far worse than I expected

This year is about what I expected as his high water mark. He’s not an elite coach. He’s a really good recruiter and needs a lot of help from his coordinators. I knew he’d build a good OL.

One reason I just shut off the Louisville game with zero emotion about it is because I’ve always expected it. He’s here for a very long time and it’s just what comes with the territory.

Floor of the program is significantly higher with him over previous coaches (for the future I mean) but I’ve never for a second believed he could bring us #6. He’s done nothing to change my mind on any of my thoughts when he was hired.

We almost caught lightning in a bottle last year with Cam but that chance passed by because we couldn’t play defense.

I’m also not a person that believes anything changes. That’s both good and bad btw it’s not ALL bad. Thinking a guy like Mario is gonna suddenly change his philosophy is legitimately insane and I’m not gonna waste time on that.

Our worst days are behind us but I fear we are also living in our best days which isn’t good enough.