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Kevin Patrick. You guys know his eligibility is up right? Former players are not allowed to play.
 
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FrancisSawyer said:
I loved watching Fred "The Crime Dog" Mcgriff when he was with the Braves. That was a great power hitting lineup with Klesko, Jones, Justice and I forget the other HR hitter they had then. Then the pitching.... forget about it.
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No Atl Brave could hold a candle to Biff Pocoroba.
 
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Coach Macho said:
I'd take McGriff all day. Encountered him a couple times when he was recruiting Fabian Moreau. Cool a$$ dude.

Give me Patrick or Partridge at DL.
I love me some Kevin Patrick. I coached camps with him and he's phenomenal. High intensity guy and a technician.
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I have some questions for you, and I promise I'm not trying to be an a$$:

But if KP is such an excellent coach, why was he let go from NC State in the first place? Why hasn't a P5 school scooped him up? Why is FAU the best he can do right now?

I'm just trying to understand this situation better.
 
Genghis Cane said:
I have some questions for you, and I promise I'm not trying to be an a$$:

But if KP is such an excellent coach, why was he let go from NC State in the first place? Why hasn't a P5 school scooped him up? Why is FAU the best he can do right now?

I'm just trying to understand this situation better.
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You're assuming that the best coaches end up at the biggest programs?
 
Coach Macho said:
You're assuming that the best coaches end up at the biggest programs?
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Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but I think it's safe to assume the "better" coaches, especially ones that have been around for a while, are scooped up by P5 schools.
 
Odin said:
Doesn't Mcgriff play mostly aggressive press coverage.Remember when he was here he would joke that's all he had in his briefcase.Not sure Diaz would like that.
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This IS a funny quote from McGriff though:


Per Rivals.com, McGriff wants to finish out his professional career as a member of the Auburn coaching staff:

“You know, Auburn’s a first-class program,” said McGriff before a speaking engagement with the Dallas County Auburn club. “It’s always been a place I wanted to coach in my coaching career. Had a chance to do it in ’16, and to have the chance to come back, it’s hard to turn down.
“And to add to that point, I’m going to retire in Auburn. That’s going to be my ‘forever spot.’ I was actually there when the opportunity became available. To be back at Auburn, and to be with those guys, Coach (Kevin) Steele and (Gus) Malzahn, it’s a no-brainer. I’m blessed to have the opportunity and I’m looking forward to the season.”
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It ain't like he hasn't produced everywhere he's been.

At NC State: NC State ranked second in the ACC, and 29th nationally in rushing defense (131.5 ypg) in 2018; All four members of the 2017 Wolfpack defensive line were selected in the 2018 NFL Draft; Defensive end Bradley Chubb won the Nugurski Trophy (nation’s top defensive player), the Hendricks Award (nation’s top defensive end), and the ACC Defensive Player of the Year award. A first-team All-ACC selection, Chubb led the ACC in sacks (10) and tackles for loss (26). He was second nationally in TFLs and seventh in sacks; Defensive tackle B.J. Hill was an honorable mention selection; At North Texas: In his two seasons with the Mean Green, the team compiled 52 sacks, including 33 in his first year - the fifth-best mark in school history. The program ranked among the top Conference USA pass rushing units and finished the 2014 season ranked No. 25 nationally in team sacks per game (2.75) and among the nation’s top-50 units in total defense. North Texas was led by the emergence of defensive end Chad Polk, who, despite an undersized frame, became an All-CUSA selection after totaling 25 tackles and a team-high 5.5 sacks; At South Florida: Produced three NFL draft picks, most notably Jason Pierre-Paul who was selected in the first round at No. 15 overall in 2010. In his lone season at USF, Pierre-Paul, garnered first team All-America honors by Pro Football Weekly as well as All-Big East first team accolades by the conference coaches and multiple other publications. McClain was drafted in the third round of the 2011 NFL Draft third by the Carolina Panthers after earning first team All-Big East honors. Selvie was a first team All-American during Patrick’s first season back with the program in 2008 and later ended his career as the program’s all-time career leader in both sacks and tackles for a loss; USF regularly rated among the nation’s top defenses as the Bulls finished among the NCAA’s top-25 units in total defense four times. The Bulls also ranked among the nation’s top-25 three times in team tackles for a loss (2010, 2011 and 2013) and as high as fourth in total sacks (2011); Honored for his work on the recruiting trail. In 2009, Rivals named him one of the nation’s top-25 recruiters in 2009, as well as the top recruiter in the Big East Conference. The recognition came after USF signed four four-star recruits, including Pierre-Paul, on National Signing Day.





Couple more things...

When he was at USF, I talked to Jon Feliciano the week before Miami played them. He told me that the USF defensive line was the nastiest DL they seen on tape that year. (coincidentally they ended up beating us and Shannon got fired)

NC State didn't let go of Patrick. They parted ways mutually. He's originally from West Palm Beach and probably wanted to come back home and coach. He's a South Florida guy.
 
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Genghis Cane said:
Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but I think it's safe to assume the "better" coaches, especially ones that have been around for a while, are scooped up by P5 schools.
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1. NC State is a P5 program.
2. Look what HE'S DONE everywhere he's been, don't look at WHERE he's been.
3. In the coaching world, getting certain positions is often about WHO you know, not WHAT you know. Example - look at our staff. How many of them were sought after by big P5 schools? And look where the **** they're at now...coaching at a 5-time National Championship program cause they knew the right guy.

The best position coaches in the country can be at D2 schools for all we know.
You don't look at WHERE a guy's been, you look at WHAT HE'S DONE at various stops.

You're looking for a CB coach.
If a guy has vastly improved CB play at every school he's been at, improved all the stats, produced all-conference players, coached NFL guys... but those schools happened to be Valdosta State, Temple and Rutgers...you're not gonna pick him over Rumph just because Rumph came from a bigger program?

How can a guy work his way up the ladder with that logic?
 
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Coach Macho said:
1. NC State is a P5 program.
2. Look what HE'S DONE everywhere he's been, don't look at WHERE he's been.
3. In the coaching world, getting certain positions is often about WHO you know, not WHAT you know. Example - look at our staff. How many of them were sought after by big P5 schools? And look where the **** they're at now...coaching at a 5-time National Championship program cause they knew the right guy.

The best position coaches in the country can be at D2 schools for all we know.
You don't look at WHERE a guy's been, you look at WHAT HE'S DONE at various stops.

You're looking for a CB coach.
If a guy has vastly improved CB play at every school he's been at, improved all the stats, produced all-conference players, coached NFL guys... but those schools happened to be Valdosta State, Temple and Rutgers...you're not gonna pick him over Rumph just because Rumph came from a bigger program?

How can a guy work his way up the ladder with that logic?
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I understand what you're saying. KP just seems like an odd case to me. He ended up being let go from NC State. I'm not sure why, however.
 
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