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BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Agreed. And the flip side is that the passing game was so effective against those cousin bangers because they were putting 7 and 8 in the box….to take away the run.
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Exactly there is no real flip side it’s just complimentary

For a year and a half now Dawson has basically said postgame “they picked their poison”

Last year our rushing game and YPC were really really **** good. Martinez was good but the passing offense was lethal

Makes sense why defenses have wanted to stop our run game since we basically wave it like a flag each week that we plan on beating you up. I think opposing defenses also were not aware of how **** good Malachi Toney would be
 
JHallCanes said:
Just a little nugget here but after our first drive against FSU:

Beck completed 15 passes in a row. He **** near broke his own record from earlier this year

15-15 for 204 yards

Threw an incomplete pass finally and then on the next throw hit CJ Daniels for the TD

So 16-17 for 228 yards and 4 TDs

Yeah we can throw it if we need to I think
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Also, you mentioned the Marion penalty. Football doesn't follow the butterfly effect, so if Marion doesn't go braindead, I can't guarantee how the rest of the game goes.

HOWEVER.....Beck finished 20/27 for 241 yards and 4 TDs.

After the Marion penalty/called back Toney TD, he threw 2 passes on that drive after that, going 1/2 for 5 yards. So take that off, add the Toney TD, and there's a real chance this dude does THIS in a Miami vs FSU game:

20/26 for 288 yards, 5 TDs, 0 INTs.
 
The U is back to work said:
I’m so surprised this line is so big. Louisville seems like a good team.
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Their offense is very bad. At least, it has been to this point. Which is surprising considering it's a Brohm team, with an experienced QB, two very good backs, and some talented receivers.

I will say that both Brown and Watson have been banged up a lot this year. Maybe that's factored into it.
 
L A M P said:
Beck belongs on this stage but we better figure out a way to implement Lofton.. bc Marion/Tony Johnson aren't WR3 at this level.
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I was hoping Josh Moore was the guy. Strange how he disappeared after the USF game

But I also get these big games you rely on your best

I think it’s part of the Trader obsession. Whether he’s elite or overrated doesn’t really matter. He’s another experienced talented guy and we need all hands on deck
 
JHallCanes said:
I was hoping Josh Moore was the guy. Strange how he disappeared after the USF game But I also get these big games you rely on your best I think it’s part of the Trader obsession. Whether he’s elite or overrated doesn’t really matter. He’s another experienced talented guy and we need all hands on deck
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Agree. I'm hoping we can get some confidence & a better rotation going. Upshaw is my sneaky hope. Seems mature/ready. JoJo living up to the hype would be ideal.
 
JHallCanes said:
The amount of OL and procedural penalties are unacceptable

Sure would be nice to have the Toney TD on our stat sheet if Marion just does the basics and pays attention

I’m actually not worried about the explosive plays. We aren’t a high octane offense like last year but we can dial it up when we need to

It’s the stupid ******* penalties killing drives and momentum especially at a position group where we’ve invested more resources than any team in the country that drives me nuts
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And those drive killers have come also when we’re trying to extend the lead or bleed clock
 
2024 rushing explosive (x-axis) & passing explosive(y-axis)
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2025 rushing explosive (x-axis) & passing explosive(y-axis)
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We were middle of the pack in the ACC in rushing explosives last year (Lyle's two long runs probably the reason we weren't in the bottom quarter/third of the conference). We were better than all but 3 ACC teams in passing explosives last year. We could afford not to have a consistently explosive run game last year (not shown, but our rushing success rate was much higher too). This year we would make Alfred Nobel cry with our lack of explosives in the run and the pass game. Since we only throw the ball to one of two guys down the field, our chances of markedly improving our passing explosiveness are pretty low, IMO. We need to produce more explosives in the run game. Lyle is our best bet in that respect. He will continue to be given opportunities in the run game. I expect menstruating about Lyle to dominate the gameday threads in the coming weeks.
 
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2024 rushing explosive (x-axis) & passing explosive(y-axis)
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2025 rushing explosive (x-axis) & passing explosive(y-axis)
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We were middle of the pack in the ACC in rushing explosives last year (Lyle's two long runs probably the reason we weren't in the bottom quarter/third of the conference). We were better than all but 3 ACC teams in passing explosives last year. We could afford not to have a consistently explosive run game last year (not shown, but our rushing success rate was much higher too). This year we would make Alfred Nobel cry with our lack of explosives in the run and the pass game. Since we only throw the ball to one of two guys down the field, our chances of markedly improving our passing explosiveness is pretty low, IMO. We need to produce more explosives in the run game. Lyle is our best bet in that respect. He will continue to be given opportunities in the run game. I expect menstruating about Lyle to dominate the gameday threads in the coming weeks.
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
As always, these are only numbers from FBS vs FBS competition.

Offense:

Yards per play: 44th (5.89 YPP)
Yards per game: 53rd (399.3 YPG)
Points per game: 32nd (32.5 PPG)
Passing yards per game: 53rd (245.3 YPG)
Passing completion percentage: 13th (70.1%)
Passing yards per attempt: 28th (8.4 YPA)
Passer rating: 17th (160.48)
Passing TDs: 43rd (9 TDs)
Rushing yards per game: 60th (155.0 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt: 72nd (4.03 YPA)
Rushing TDs: 56th (8)
Sacks given up per game: 13th (1 per game)
First Downs per game: 60th (20.5 per game)
3rd down conversion %: 31st (44.4%)
4th down conversion %: 12th (75%, 6 for 8 on the season)
TFLs allowed per game: 7th (3.25 per game)
Red Zone TD %: 10th (78.5% TD rate, 11 TDs in 14 chances)
Red Zone Scoring %: 31st (13 scores in 14 chances)
Field goal %: 1st (5 for 5)
PAT %: 1st (22 for 22)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 119th (51)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 90th (18)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 98th (7)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 72nd (4)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 96th (1)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 100th (0)
70+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 100th (0)


Defense:

Yards per play allowed: 14th (4.56 YPP)
Yards per game allowed: 18th (297.8 YPG)
Points per game allowed: 12th (16.3 PPG)
Passing yards per game allowed: 49th (211.5 YPG)
Passing completion percentage allowed: 27th (57.6%)
Passing yards per attempt: 22nd (6.1 YPA)
Passer rating allowed: 22nd (114.78)
Rushing yards per game allowed: 10th (86.25 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt allowed: 11th (2.83 YPA)
Sacks per game: 24th (2.75 sacks per game)
3rd down % allowed: 19th (31.58% allowed)
4th down % allowed: 49th (50%, opponents 6/12 on 4th down)
Red Zone td % allowed: 75th (63.6% allowed -- 7 TDs in 11 chances)
Red Zone Scoring % allowed: 108th (91% allowed -- 10 scores in 11 chances)
Punting: 77th (42.65 Yard average)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 8th (42)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 6th (12)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 12th (6)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 22nd (3)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 40th (2)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 32nd (1)


Team Stats:

Penalties: 125th (8.5 penalties per game)
Penalty yards: 106th (66 Yards per game)
Turnover margin: 10th (+1.0 per game -- 7 takeaways, 3 giveaways)
Time of possession: 7th (34:13 per game)
Number of offensive plays: (Avg 67 plays per game)

Advanced Metrics:

Total ADJ/EPA per play:
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Offensive Adj/EPA per play:
Passing EPA/dropback:
Rushing EPA/rush:
Offensive Success Rate:
Defensive Adj/EPA per play:
Passing Defensive EPA/dropback:
Rushing Defensive EPA/rush:
Defensive Success Rate:


Takeaways:

Obviously not much on yet another bye week. As we all suspected watching the end of last season, the defense is absolutely dominant and national championship worthy (LOL).

The advanced metrics site is down, so those aren't updated, I'll come back and edit it later.

But honestly, I expect more of the same this week. Louisville has been much better defensively than offensively this year, so if all goes as expected, the defense will have another great game and rise in all the metrics, and the offense will probably be good not great, and pretty much stay consistent.

One thing we need to improve on, as well know. I continue to be shocked by being 72nd in the country in yards per carry. That just has to get better if we think we're winning a natty. I totally get the strength of schedule piece. Nobody in America has played better fronts than we have so far. But that number was 5th last season. And even in 2023, when we lost 5 times, it was 20th. It just doesn't really compute to not see Miami in the upper quarter of the country in YPC, and again, Louisville's defense has been pretty good, so I don't really expect us to run the ball 35 times for 250 yards. Would sure be nice, though.

But overall, this is the stat profile of a championship contender. Just elite up and down the defense (if I can nitpick, would like a few more redzone stops, but the biggest one against FSU, we did hold them to 3 on the first drive which was a massive win). And while the numbers are down on the offense, as expected from whatever the **** that was last year, we're still very good in certain areas. For example, if you're going to be 70th in yards per carry, you need to be good in avoiding losses (7th in TFLs allowed, 13th in sacks allowed), good on 3rd down (31st in the country), and good in the redzone (31st in TD %). It's just a more methodical attack, but again, we've played 4 defenses with very good athletes, and we're 32nd in the country in scoring. Which, at the end of the day, is all that matters. Put points on the board.

We should get some stat padding games coming up here soon. Stanford is god-awful, Syracuse is god-awful, I expect us to shred SMU, VT is god-awful, NC State is god-awful. But, one at a time. Whip Louisville's *** and keep this train rolling.

GO CANES
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That Louisville defense is small and their linebackers are hurt. I believe we push them all over that field and run that ball all over them.
 
Yards per carry vs time of possession.... related... Low yards equals slow drives... equals lots of TOP.
Which equals better defensive numbers... All right in line...
 
We have taken several quarters off on the offensive side of the ball.
ND - Entire 4th quarter
BC - Most of 4th quarter, Mario did not want to run up score
Florida - Parts of the second half we shut it down based on weather
USF - I guess we played all out entire game?
FSU - 4th quarter we turned into a tortoise

So basically an entire game we decided not to play offense. That will certainly hurt the offensive stats.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
One thing we need to improve on, as well know. I continue to be shocked by being 72nd in the country in yards per carry. That just has to get better if we think we're winning a natty. I totally get the strength of schedule piece. Nobody in America has played better fronts than we have so far. But that number was 5th last season. And even in 2023, when we lost 5 times, it was 20th. It just doesn't really compute to not see Miami in the upper quarter of the country in YPC, and again, Louisville's defense has been pretty good, so I don't really expect us to run the ball 35 times for 250 yards. Would sure be nice, though.
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I think we need to start throwing to open up the pass. Teams are keying on the run to start games so we should come out swinging with the passing game (especially play action).
 
drewm3i said:
I think we need to start throwing to open up the pass. Teams are keying on the run to start games so we should come out swinging with the passing game (especially play action).
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Throwing to open up the pass is some Hawaii type **** when they had colt.
 
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ristwasdown said:
Throwing to open up the pass is some Hawaii type **** when they had colt.
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It's also how Richt approached the very limited 2016-17 offenses--it works when you don't have a dominant line or teams disproportionately key on your running game.
 
We have the best trenches in college football on both sides of the ball. Every other postion is good, but the trenches separate us. We have no weak position. Don't confuse that with not having weaknesses, we do and I am afraid Brohm is about to expose some. Our LB's are good, but weak in coverage for example. Start Chase in this game, please. Brohm will attack your weakness until you adjust to stop it. We still win by 3 TD's.
 
flips said:
2024 rushing explosive (x-axis) & passing explosive(y-axis)
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2025 rushing explosive (x-axis) & passing explosive(y-axis)
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We were middle of the pack in the ACC in rushing explosives last year (Lyle's two long runs probably the reason we weren't in the bottom quarter/third of the conference). We were better than all but 3 ACC teams in passing explosives last year. We could afford not to have a consistently explosive run game last year (not shown, but our rushing success rate was much higher too). This year we would make Alfred Nobel cry with our lack of explosives in the run and the pass game. Since we only throw the ball to one of two guys down the field, our chances of markedly improving our passing explosiveness are pretty low, IMO. We need to produce more explosives in the run game. Lyle is our best bet in that respect. He will continue to be given opportunities in the run game. I expect menstruating about Lyle to dominate the gameday threads in the coming weeks.
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Our RBs aren’t good at the 2nd level of the defense(tbd on lyle), biggest difference from them and Martinez. Fletch has made some solid 2nd level plays this year tho but Martinez would basically add 3-5 yards to majority of his 6-8 yard runs
 
flips said:
2024 rushing explosive (x-axis) & passing explosive(y-axis)
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2025 rushing explosive (x-axis) & passing explosive(y-axis)
View attachment 339493

We were middle of the pack in the ACC in rushing explosives last year (Lyle's two long runs probably the reason we weren't in the bottom quarter/third of the conference). We were better than all but 3 ACC teams in passing explosives last year. We could afford not to have a consistently explosive run game last year (not shown, but our rushing success rate was much higher too). This year we would make Alfred Nobel cry with our lack of explosives in the run and the pass game. Since we only throw the ball to one of two guys down the field, our chances of markedly improving our passing explosiveness are pretty low, IMO. We need to produce more explosives in the run game. Lyle is our best bet in that respect. He will continue to be given opportunities in the run game. I expect menstruating about Lyle to dominate the gameday threads in the coming weeks.
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Any chance you have a link to these? My old *** can't see most of this.
 
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