We just got a lil thinner

[NutFumbler]

this is bull**** forreal. you have universities handing out thousands of dollars to these kids parents and we kicking Mfers off the team. losing grace is a ****ing blow to the gut if true man.

I hear you, but let's be honest: this is a byproduct of grace's own stupidity

We NEED Graves (I think he was the key to our defensive versatility) but we are on probation, and saving the program from further sanction is faaaar more important than one plsyer. And trust me, I hate thAt I'm writing this because I'm convinced we have the makeup/talent for a title run this season

So what's wrong with a 3 game suspension and running the stadium steps?

 

[dedostheibis]

Thats not a lil thinner. **** damm ****

 

[CanesAreAble]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but our linebackers corps about to take a hit. Jermaine is probably off this team. If not he definitely is gonna miss a large part of the season. Everyone else Gucci but aqm might miss first game. Well be fine. Mcray is getting alot of burn as well as Gardiner. We shall overcome my dudes. Stay positive

 

[The Svengali]

this is bull**** forreal. you have universities handing out thousands of dollars to these kids parents and we kicking Mfers off the team. losing grace is a ****ing blow to the gut if true man.

I hear you, but let's be honest: this is a byproduct of grace's own stupidity

We NEED Graves (I think he was the key to our defensive versatility) but we are on probation, and saving the program from further sanction is faaaar more important than one plsyer. And trust me, I hate thAt I'm writing this because I'm convinced we have the makeup/talent for a title run this season

So what's wrong with a 3 game suspension and running the stadium steps?

I think they're taking a preemptive stance (and rightfully so) to get ahead of the situation and the NCAA. Just my opinion.
We'd be crazy to try and skirt the rules and play hardball, given we are still on probation until October. Love Grace, but he's not bigger than the program

Complete the due diligence, and throw a couple of bones to the NCAA (Juwon and Grace for their wrongdoing) so they can go away. And look,

 

[The Svengali]

this is bull**** forreal. you have universities handing out thousands of dollars to these kids parents and we kicking Mfers off the team. losing grace is a ****ing blow to the gut if true man.

I hear you, but let's be honest: this is a byproduct of grace's own stupidity

We NEED Graves (I think he was the key to our defensive versatility) but we are on probation, and saving the program from further sanction is faaaar more important than one plsyer. And trust me, I hate thAt I'm writing this because I'm convinced we have the makeup/talent for a title run this season

So what's wrong with a 3 game suspension and running the stadium steps?

I think they're taking a preemptive stance (and rightfully so) to get ahead of the situation and the NCAA. Just my opinion.
We'd be crazy to try and skirt the rules and play hardball, given we are still on probation until October. Love Grace, but he's not bigger than the program

Complete the due diligence, and throw a couple of bones to the NCAA (Juwon and Grace for their wrongdoing) so they can go away.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

because I'm convinced we have the makeup/talent for a title run this season

With a potentially all freshman LB corp?...no we don't.

 

[Canedude08]

Maybe you should blame Grace for being a bonehead and putting himself in this situation to begin with. The school is just trying to protect us from NCAA repercussions, considering we are still on probation and all...

We always throw our kids under the bus. FSU/Alabama/SEC teams protect their kids.

Jimmy Johnson would have had the kid do some laps after practice and that would be the end of it

Not going to lie... The compliance staff would have turned the cheek if this happened at a school like sec or fsu, Miami trying to be mr goody two shoes is going to end up affecting us again

So in other words, the compliance office were doing their **** job. The job of the compliance office is to protect the interests of the athletic department. We all know that the playing field isn't level, schools like Miami are always under a microscope. Therefore, things like this can't be swept under the rug, because the NCAA is waiting for ANYTHING remotely resembling a cover up. I have no sympathy for people like Jermaine, they were all told things they can't do, and if there's any doubt, to ASK SOMEONE. You do dirt and get caught, you're on your own. Here's an idea, LEASE A **** CAR. Hundreds, if not thousands of student athletes do that, and as long as it's not a crazy nice car, you'll get away with it.

You don't think Alabama is under a microscope? FSU? The difference is, those schools fight for their players.

Richt has every right to be livid. You can't expect him to win championships and then tie his hands behind his back. This is a FOOTBALL issue, the university should keep its damned nose out of it. Let the coach punish the kids as he sees fit.

Sick of this university trying to be Notre Dame.

Fundamental difference between Miami, FSU and Alabama. FSU and Alabama, even when they do dirt, the NCAA bends over backwards to make sure they get the benefit of the doubt. Jimbo and the FSU administration may have covered up a rape in order to keep Jammie on the field. Alabama has consistently broken rules, and even when they are busted, manage to get a slap on the wrist. The repeat violators rule was made for programs like Alabama, and Auburn, yet they manage to skate more often than not. Ole Miss has players who ADMITTED to taking money, with proof that coaches were involved, nothing. One rogue Miami booster(Who happened to run a ponzi scheme) admits that he gave kids some pocket change, hooked them up with bottle service at clubs and the NCAA was willing to break every rule in the rulebook to get Miami. Think that over, that's how the playing field is tilted. Contrary to popular belief, the compliance office isn't out to get people, they are there to protect the athletic department. Miami can't afford to cover up stuff like this, it's on the student-athlete to not be a moron. This program isn't 100% clean, no program is, but when big time stuff comes up, that is a matter of public record, the compliance office has no choice but to do their jobs. This isn't Alabama, this isn't Auburn, and it never will be. Those who expect that kind of athletic department are shortsighted, because they don't realize that Miami can't pull that off and survive. SMU did that once, how did that work out for them? USC had that going for a while, how did that turn out? Private schools in large cities can't operate like the schools in the boonies.

 

[Bigtip]

McCray is garbage and prolly shouldn't be on the team

3 true fr at lb is a disaster

This is worth a couple of games imo

 

[fincane]

Jermaine Grace is worth two games while JJ Watt wouldn't be worth 3 points on a betting line. Ok

 

[PopeJackson]

Jermaine Grace is worth two games while JJ Watt wouldn't be worth 3 points on a betting line. Ok

This.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Miami can't afford to cover up stuff like this, it's on the student-athlete to not be a moron.

Man GTFOH with that "moron" talk. If it wasn't for young black men risking life & limb playing football, the MFers in compliance wouldn't get a paycheck...and lily white sports like golf,tennis, & rowing wouldn't be subsidized. You sound like one of those MFers that thought UM should've gotten the DP with the whole Neving thing.

 

[JgDaCane]

Miami can't afford to cover up stuff like this, it's on the student-athlete to not be a moron.

Man GTFOH with that "moron" talk. If it wasn't for young black men risking life & limb playing football, the MFers in compliance wouldn't get a paycheck...and lily white sports like golf,tennis, & rowing wouldn't be subsidized. You sound like one of those MFers that thought UM should've gotten the DP with the whole Neving thing.

only young black men play football. thats news to me. take a look at the o-line, kicker, & punter before you make an ignorant *** statement like that.

 

[ILCane2011]

My understanding is that this went in front of some university student disciplinary council. Bunch of professors and snotty kids who don't even like football

So not even Richt's call. That is ridiculous.

They're trying to make us Duke football with Miami academics.

LOL, I think you're referring to the Honor Council, which (as a former member of) I know has nothing to do with these matters.

This is an athletics compliance issue, not a student conduct issue, Mr. non-alum.

Props to OP if he is right but if Grace isn't kicked off the team, **** OP. To put out hurtful information about Grace, before it's confirmed is just bad form, especially from someone who claims that he actually played ball here

 

[Rellyrell]

Miami can't afford to cover up stuff like this, it's on the student-athlete to not be a moron.

Man GTFOH with that "moron" talk. If it wasn't for young black men risking life & limb playing football, the MFers in compliance wouldn't get a paycheck...and lily white sports like golf,tennis, & rowing wouldn't be subsidized. You sound like one of those MFers that thought UM should've gotten the DP with the whole Neving thing.

only young black men play football. thats news to me. take a look at the o-line, kicker, & punter before you make an ignorant *** statement like that.

Pretty sure it was the young, black men who decided to stay home vs going elsewhere like in years past that put Miami football on the map. (See "The U" part 1 on the 30/30 special)

 

[ILCane2011]

Just out of curiousity, is this the depth chart if Grace is out?

slb: McCloud, Perry
mlb: Shaq, Smith, a literal chair, McCray
wlb: Gordinier, Pinckney, Owens

 

[Canedude08]

Miami can't afford to cover up stuff like this, it's on the student-athlete to not be a moron.

Man GTFOH with that "moron" talk. If it wasn't for young black men risking life & limb playing football, the MFers in compliance wouldn't get a paycheck...and lily white sports like golf,tennis, & rowing wouldn't be subsidized. You sound like one of those MFers that thought UM should've gotten the DP with the whole Neving thing.

only young black men play football. thats news to me. take a look at the o-line, kicker, & punter before you make an ignorant *** statement like that.

Pretty sure it was the young, black men who decided to stay home vs going elsewhere like in years past that put Miami football on the map. (See "The U" part 1 on the 30/30 special)

So guys like Bernie Kosar, Jim Kelly(Program turned the corner with him), Vinny T, and dozens of other anglo players had nothing to do with it? Yep, it was ALL Bratton, Highsmith, Bennie and Mike Irvin. Jermaine is a team leader, he should have known better, and I will not insult him by holding him to a lower standard. I expect all student-athletes to at least have the common sense to ask before they do stuff. This school spends hours with these young people, explaining to them the things they can't do, and encouraging them to come to compliance if they have any questions. Compliance isn't out to end people's careers, they are out to protect the athletic department, and keep the program from going under, period.

 

[JgDaCane]

Miami can't afford to cover up stuff like this, it's on the student-athlete to not be a moron.

Man GTFOH with that "moron" talk. If it wasn't for young black men risking life & limb playing football, the MFers in compliance wouldn't get a paycheck...and lily white sports like golf,tennis, & rowing wouldn't be subsidized. You sound like one of those MFers that thought UM should've gotten the DP with the whole Neving thing.

only young black men play football. thats news to me. take a look at the o-line, kicker, & punter before you make an ignorant *** statement like that.

Pretty sure it was the young, black men who decided to stay home vs going elsewhere like in years past that put Miami football on the map. (See "The U" part 1 on the 30/30 special)

Nobody is denying that. That was never mentioned. Theres also white kids on this team working their *** of too is all im saying.

 

[Ispyin]

Alabama has cats getting popped drinking and driving with stolen guns and they're playing week one, but we got players getting kicked off the team for renting cars on the low? ****s ****ed up.

Alabama wants to win. Their university actually supports their football team, rather than trying to ***** them on purpose

I swear, the admin at Miami does not want to be good at football

Disgusting.

PSU covered up child rape for over 4 decades, and they get off probation before us...one of our kids gets a hook up on rental cars, and He's America's Most Wanted...our compliance is worse than the NCAA.

You realize we are still on probation? Would be nice to get off it before start attacking everyone trying to make sure that happens.

 

[NutFumbler]

this is bull**** forreal. you have universities handing out thousands of dollars to these kids parents and we kicking Mfers off the team. losing grace is a ****ing blow to the gut if true man.

I hear you, but let's be honest: this is a byproduct of grace's own stupidity

We NEED Graves (I think he was the key to our defensive versatility) but we are on probation, and saving the program from further sanction is faaaar more important than one plsyer. And trust me, I hate thAt I'm writing this because I'm convinced we have the makeup/talent for a title run this season

So what's wrong with a 3 game suspension and running the stadium steps?

I think they're taking a preemptive stance (and rightfully so) to get ahead of the situation and the NCAA. Just my opinion.
We'd be crazy to try and skirt the rules and play hardball, given we are still on probation until October. Love Grace, but he's not bigger than the program

Complete the due diligence, and throw a couple of bones to the NCAA (Juwon and Grace for their wrongdoing) so they can go away.

Still excessive to throw him off the team. You can get ahead of the NCAA by suspending the kid for a couple games....that's what every other program would do.

 

[NutFumbler]

We always throw our kids under the bus. FSU/Alabama/SEC teams protect their kids.

Jimmy Johnson would have had the kid do some laps after practice and that would be the end of it

Not going to lie... The compliance staff would have turned the cheek if this happened at a school like sec or fsu, Miami trying to be mr goody two shoes is going to end up affecting us again

So in other words, the compliance office were doing their **** job. The job of the compliance office is to protect the interests of the athletic department. We all know that the playing field isn't level, schools like Miami are always under a microscope. Therefore, things like this can't be swept under the rug, because the NCAA is waiting for ANYTHING remotely resembling a cover up. I have no sympathy for people like Jermaine, they were all told things they can't do, and if there's any doubt, to ASK SOMEONE. You do dirt and get caught, you're on your own. Here's an idea, LEASE A **** CAR. Hundreds, if not thousands of student athletes do that, and as long as it's not a crazy nice car, you'll get away with it.

You don't think Alabama is under a microscope? FSU? The difference is, those schools fight for their players.

Richt has every right to be livid. You can't expect him to win championships and then tie his hands behind his back. This is a FOOTBALL issue, the university should keep its damned nose out of it. Let the coach punish the kids as he sees fit.

Sick of this university trying to be Notre Dame.

Fundamental difference between Miami, FSU and Alabama. FSU and Alabama, even when they do dirt, the NCAA bends over backwards to make sure they get the benefit of the doubt. Jimbo and the FSU administration may have covered up a rape in order to keep Jammie on the field. Alabama has consistently broken rules, and even when they are busted, manage to get a slap on the wrist. The repeat violators rule was made for programs like Alabama, and Auburn, yet they manage to skate more often than not. Ole Miss has players who ADMITTED to taking money, with proof that coaches were involved, nothing. One rogue Miami booster(Who happened to run a ponzi scheme) admits that he gave kids some pocket change, hooked them up with bottle service at clubs and the NCAA was willing to break every rule in the rulebook to get Miami. Think that over, that's how the playing field is tilted. Contrary to popular belief, the compliance office isn't out to get people, they are there to protect the athletic department. Miami can't afford to cover up stuff like this, it's on the student-athlete to not be a moron. This program isn't 100% clean, no program is, but when big time stuff comes up, that is a matter of public record, the compliance office has no choice but to do their jobs. This isn't Alabama, this isn't Auburn, and it never will be. Those who expect that kind of athletic department are shortsighted, because they don't realize that Miami can't pull that off and survive. SMU did that once, how did that work out for them? USC had that going for a while, how did that turn out? Private schools in large cities can't operate like the schools in the boonies.

And look how that worked out...we skated and almost took the NCAA down. You gotta fight for your own, not roll over. About the only good thing Shalala ever did was she put up a fight with the NCAA.