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Please post the evidence he couldn't block. Which sack or QB pressure did he give up? Which missed assignment?

I don’t really care much for this debate, i think pringle, fletcher, and brown played their roles well last season, but here’s evidence you asked for:

Miami vs Ohio State
1:45 left in the first quarter, 2nd and 6
Pringle is late reading the A gap blitz and gets run over

4:39 left in the third quarter, 2nd and 8
Pringle misses his assignment and allows the nickel blitz to get home. Sack on Beck for a 1 yard loss.

Source:

That said, Mark missed one in the ole miss game that led to a sack as well and I’m sure the tape over the course of the season shows missed assignments and mistakes by all the backs. I’m looking forward to seeing all of them take the next step this season.
 
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He was literally the starting RB while the offense was garbage and helped turned it around. Do you actually watch any of the games?
I do and he only did something 2 games when FLETCHER wasnt playing. Also against bad teams. He was great against garbage teams..........
 
I don’t really care much for this debate, i think pringle, fletcher, and brown played their roles well last season, but here’s evidence you asked for:

Miami vs Ohio State
1:45 left in the first quarter, 2nd and 6
Pringle is late reading the A gap blitz and gets run over

4:39 left in the third quarter, 2nd and 8
Pringle misses his assignment and allows the nickel blitz to get home. Sack on Beck for a 1 yard loss.

Source:

That said, Mark missed one in the ole miss game that’s led to a sack as well and I’m sure the tape over the course of the season shows missed assignments and mistakes by all the backs. In looking forward to seeing all of them take the next step this season.

Pringle was benched immediately after
 
He has the size but he runs upright still. He has been working on it. It's not easy making an NFL team.

Do you really think Fletcher has shown to be a Dallas, Homer, Miller, or Duke? He's definitely never been a dominant player. Dallas and Homer are mostly in the NFL due to special teams also. I'd definitely rate Dallas as the far superior RB.
You're overrating Deejay and Homer.
 
I don’t really care much for this debate, i think pringle, fletcher, and brown played their roles well last season, but here’s evidence you asked for:

Miami vs Ohio State
1:45 left in the first quarter, 2nd and 6
Pringle is late reading the A gap blitz and gets run over

4:39 left in the third quarter, 2nd and 8
Pringle misses his assignment and allows the nickel blitz to get home. Sack on Beck for a 1 yard loss.

Source:

That said, Mark missed one in the ole miss game that’s led to a sack as well and I’m sure the tape over the course of the season shows missed assignments and mistakes by all the backs. In looking forward to seeing all of them take the next step this season.

Someone finally pulled the fkn tape
 
Fam this is exactly why I think Pringle is the guy and why I keep saying pull the tape. If you do watch the tape what you'll notice very quickly is Pringle is actually our best RB up the A gap running DUO. He doesn't win with size, he wins with vision, staying small, and quickness. People just keep assuming Pringle is not a good inside runner. Totally false. This is why I am saying he's the best RB on the team. For our scheme it's pretty **** dangerous to have a 10.4 RB who is actually a really good vertical inside runner in our DUO scheme. Perfect fit.

If Fletcher keeps killing it out of pistol then he will have something to say about that comment in 2026. And to be clear I hope he takes his game to yet another level and proves me wrong. This to me isn't about winning an argument or predicting something correctly. I want Fletcher to prove me wrong and end up in the NFL a rich man.
If you rewatch the NC State game you’ll actually find very little usage of duo when Pringle is in. I found one and due to the angle, it was hard to tell if it was inside zone or duo. I agree that Pringle is a good player but disagree with your point that he is Miamis best A gap/Duo RB because the film cannot support your claim. At least in this game, his touches were engineered to hit the B or C gap. His chunk plays came with pulling lineman out in front. He was good catching passes out of the backfield as well, which would help this season with mitigating defensive coordinators sending pressure when he’s in the game. I appreciate the energy for the player but this particular game film cannot support the claims you make.

1st quarter
12:14- 4yd rush (wide zone)
10:32- 4yd rush (pin and pull)
9:18- 4yd rush (split zone)
6:22- 8yd rush (power)
0:35- 5yd rush (wide zone)

2nd quarter
9:27- 5yd rush (power)

3rd quarter
14:53- 2yd rush (pin and pull)
13:31- 4yd rush (inside zone)
12:08- 3yd rush (inside zone but could be duo, tv sideline view not great)
9:04- 12yd rush (power)
8:30- 23yd rush (pin and pull? Playside guard and backside tackle pull while covered lineman downblock)
7:50- 3yd rush (inside zone)
5:53-17yd rush (power)
5:23- 2yd rush (wide zone)
1:14- 3yd rush (pin and pull)

4th quarter
13:58- 15yd rush (power)
12:34- 2yd rush (gt counter)
I labeled plays to the best of my layman’s ability, something is wrong, I’m happy to change it.

Source:
 
Miami's second scrimmage of fall camp went down on Greentree, and it basically signals the end of fall camp.

As we start shifting into Stanford mode, here's what stood out from the scrimmage and overall from recent practices.

- Darian Mensah is Mensah. I don't lose a second of sleep about him. He's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the country, easy.

- Dereon Coleman is a name pushing up. He's not the starter, not the number two, but he's stringing together good showings and earning more work. His arm is as live as it's been — quick release, no windup.

- Luke Nickel continues to find his way. His internal clock is speeding up — he's playing faster, going through reads quicker, and he's got legs on him. He's similar to a Gunnar Stockton where he rises when the pads come on with his ability to take hits and extend plays.

- CharMar Brown had a great day. People look at his yards-per-carry and think it's low, but part of that is his role being short yardage. Add back that long touchdown against Florida that got called back and his numbers look a lot cleaner.

He's not going down on one tackle. Never too high, never too low — you know exactly what you're getting.

- Javian Mallory keeps giving us a reason to talk about him. Consistency is the number-one sign of a freshman who's actually ready to play, and he's got it — he can catch, block, and run. Nothing catches your eye specifically, but he turns into a different player with the helmet and pads on.

- Our deep-ball game is going to be significantly better this year. Not just because Mensah throws a great deep ball — it's the number of receivers who are actually good at going deep. Josh Moore, Malachi Toney, Cooper Barkate, Vance Spafford, Dre Jacobs with a handful of others can all take the top off a defense.

- Cooper Barkate is going to draw a lot of one-on-one matchups teams create by bracketing Toney, and when he's isolated, he's smooth, agile, has great hands, and wins contested catches. He came to Miami from Duke already a thousand-yard receiver saying he wanted to get better, not cash out — and it's shown up every day since spring.

- Elija Lofton is a consistent riser. He was explosive again today.

I think there's still another level in him — the one where he's breaking tackles and scoring in real games — but the trajectory is right.

- Left tackle, right tackle, and center feel settled: Samson Okunlola at left tackle, Matthew McCoy at right tackle, Ryan Rodriguez at center. I don't see any of those three spots changing hands.

- The o-line in general is facing two of the best defensive tackles in college football every day in practice. That's going to prepare them for anything the regular season throws at them.

- We lost one of the best defensive end pairings Miami's had in Rueben Bain and Akheem Mesidor, and I still leave this camp feeling really good about this group. Disruptive is the word.

Doesn't matter what front they're in the result is the same: pressure, and they're getting to the quarterback.

- It starts in the middle. Ahmad Moten and Justin Scott are collapsing the pocket into the quarterback's lap play after play. That's the kind of interior push SEC teams used to be known for.

- Keona Davis, Booker Pickett, and Asharri Charles all jumped out today — getting into the backfield, getting after it.

- Like Mallory, JJ Dunnigan keeps giving us reasons to talk about him.

If this secondary were thin anywhere, he'd be the easiest freshman All-American call — that's how good the room is that he's not a lock to start. He covers outside guys, tight ends, slot receivers and can blitz and clean things up in the run game. I don't see how he's not heavily in the rotation, similar to what Bryce Fitzgerald did last season.

- Camdin Portis — son of former UM and NFL back Clinton Portis — is progressing well from spring to fall. He's understanding the playbook and playing in the right spot more consistently.

- Jaelen Waters and Dylan Day both continue to look like playable options on the back end.

- Jake Weinberg was the best touchback guy in the country last year by a wide margin, and over the last two weeks his field-goal consistency has caught up to that leg. Kicker is a volatile position by nature, but I'm feeling good about where he's trending heading into Stanford.

One other thing

- People have been asking about the ruling on fifth-year eligibility and what it means for Miami.

I don't sense us being active in that market. It's not off the table, but nothing I'm hearing suggests we're diving into it with the season so close.

Big picture

- This offense runs the ball, has since Mario got here, and it's not changing. The size and physicality up front, the depth in the running back room — that's the nature of this team, and it showed up again today with the young offensive linemen doing what they do best: bulldozing people. There will still be plenty of explosive pass plays.

- Corey Hetherman's design, the talent from the back end to the D-line, and a group that's now in year two of the system — I think we've got a shot at a top-five defense.

Camp was a success. Guys stayed healthy, guys competed at a high level in brutal heat, and the strength staff deserves a standing ovation for how these guys held up. I feel great about this team health-wise and talent-wise.

The quarterback's a veteran, the skill positions are loaded, the offensive line has what it needs and just needs reps, and the defense — that's the story. I didn't expect this defensive line to rebuild this fast, and the DBs might be the best group in the country.

We've got two weeks before Stanford. I'm excited for it.

Full breakdown and reaction in the video — check it out below.


I always hate being so simple when I could over complicate ****, but there is no denying that the simple truth of our offense this year with arguably the deepest RB and WR room and solid TE group will once and again and always be… they will go as far as our OL goes. Shocker.
 
My comp for Barkate is Brandon Stokley
Barkate is more Like Reggie Wayne, from His 6’1.5 198lbs Frame , To his Polish Route Running & Ball Skills


If You Put 87 Covered his arms with Sleeves you would think is Reggie Wayne.
 
Miami's second scrimmage of fall camp went down on Greentree, and it basically signals the end of fall camp.

As we start shifting into Stanford mode, here's what stood out from the scrimmage and overall from recent practices.

- Darian Mensah is Mensah. I don't lose a second of sleep about him. He's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the country, easy.

- Dereon Coleman is a name pushing up. He's not the starter, not the number two, but he's stringing together good showings and earning more work. His arm is as live as it's been — quick release, no windup.

- Luke Nickel continues to find his way. His internal clock is speeding up — he's playing faster, going through reads quicker, and he's got legs on him. He's similar to a Gunnar Stockton where he rises when the pads come on with his ability to take hits and extend plays.

- CharMar Brown had a great day. People look at his yards-per-carry and think it's low, but part of that is his role being short yardage. Add back that long touchdown against Florida that got called back and his numbers look a lot cleaner.

He's not going down on one tackle. Never too high, never too low — you know exactly what you're getting.

- Javian Mallory keeps giving us a reason to talk about him. Consistency is the number-one sign of a freshman who's actually ready to play, and he's got it — he can catch, block, and run. Nothing catches your eye specifically, but he turns into a different player with the helmet and pads on.

- Our deep-ball game is going to be significantly better this year. Not just because Mensah throws a great deep ball — it's the number of receivers who are actually good at going deep. Josh Moore, Malachi Toney, Cooper Barkate, Vance Spafford, Dre Jacobs with a handful of others can all take the top off a defense.

- Cooper Barkate is going to draw a lot of one-on-one matchups teams create by bracketing Toney, and when he's isolated, he's smooth, agile, has great hands, and wins contested catches. He came to Miami from Duke already a thousand-yard receiver saying he wanted to get better, not cash out — and it's shown up every day since spring.

- Elija Lofton is a consistent riser. He was explosive again today.

I think there's still another level in him — the one where he's breaking tackles and scoring in real games — but the trajectory is right.

- Left tackle, right tackle, and center feel settled: Samson Okunlola at left tackle, Matthew McCoy at right tackle, Ryan Rodriguez at center. I don't see any of those three spots changing hands.

- The o-line in general is facing two of the best defensive tackles in college football every day in practice. That's going to prepare them for anything the regular season throws at them.

- We lost one of the best defensive end pairings Miami's had in Rueben Bain and Akheem Mesidor, and I still leave this camp feeling really good about this group. Disruptive is the word.

Doesn't matter what front they're in the result is the same: pressure, and they're getting to the quarterback.

- It starts in the middle. Ahmad Moten and Justin Scott are collapsing the pocket into the quarterback's lap play after play. That's the kind of interior push SEC teams used to be known for.

- Keona Davis, Booker Pickett, and Asharri Charles all jumped out today — getting into the backfield, getting after it.

- Like Mallory, JJ Dunnigan keeps giving us reasons to talk about him.

If this secondary were thin anywhere, he'd be the easiest freshman All-American call — that's how good the room is that he's not a lock to start. He covers outside guys, tight ends, slot receivers and can blitz and clean things up in the run game. I don't see how he's not heavily in the rotation, similar to what Bryce Fitzgerald did last season.

- Camdin Portis — son of former UM and NFL back Clinton Portis — is progressing well from spring to fall. He's understanding the playbook and playing in the right spot more consistently.

- Jaelen Waters and Dylan Day both continue to look like playable options on the back end.

- Jake Weinberg was the best touchback guy in the country last year by a wide margin, and over the last two weeks his field-goal consistency has caught up to that leg. Kicker is a volatile position by nature, but I'm feeling good about where he's trending heading into Stanford.

One other thing

- People have been asking about the ruling on fifth-year eligibility and what it means for Miami.

I don't sense us being active in that market. It's not off the table, but nothing I'm hearing suggests we're diving into it with the season so close.

Big picture

- This offense runs the ball, has since Mario got here, and it's not changing. The size and physicality up front, the depth in the running back room — that's the nature of this team, and it showed up again today with the young offensive linemen doing what they do best: bulldozing people. There will still be plenty of explosive pass plays.

- Corey Hetherman's design, the talent from the back end to the D-line, and a group that's now in year two of the system — I think we've got a shot at a top-five defense.

Camp was a success. Guys stayed healthy, guys competed at a high level in brutal heat, and the strength staff deserves a standing ovation for how these guys held up. I feel great about this team health-wise and talent-wise.

The quarterback's a veteran, the skill positions are loaded, the offensive line has what it needs and just needs reps, and the defense — that's the story. I didn't expect this defensive line to rebuild this fast, and the DBs might be the best group in the country.

We've got two weeks before Stanford. I'm excited for it.

Full breakdown and reaction in the video — check it out below.


Give SJ the Blocking TE Role Bro
Throw a couple once an a while to break Tendency or Dont throw at all. I prefer Buchanon or Cantwell at Guard .

I prefer Size at Guard . Non negotiable to me.
 
At some point we have to understand each position needs you to be good at multiple things for you to be the best player at that position. Its the same thing with TEs who can’t block but are good wrs, or edges who can rush the passer but can’t defend the run or vice versa etc etc..

Pringle has shown he’s a really good pure runner but he’s not ahead enough there to be better than fletch right now. And on no level is pass pro not important, players get limited snaps in the league too if you’re a liability there so this isn’t just a mario or dawson thing lol

Also fletch had an insane playoff run but we don’t have to act like he isn’t flawed, there’s a reason he returned to school after playing that well vs the best defenses. Lets hope he plays like that all year and get drafted higher than he was expected
 
At some point we have to understand each position needs you to be good at multiple things for you to be the best player at that position.

Pringle has shown he’s a really good pure runner but he’s not ahead enough there to be better than fletch right now. And on no level is pass pro not important, players get limited snaps in the league too if you’re a liability there so this isn’t just a mario or dawson thing lol

Also fletch had an insane playoff run but we don’t have to act like he isn’t flawed, there’s a reason he returned to school after playing that well vs the best defenses. Lets hope he plays like that all year and get drafted higher than he was expected
Very reasonable post.
 
Fam this is exactly why I think Pringle is the guy and why I keep saying pull the tape. If you do watch the tape what you'll notice very quickly is Pringle is actually our best RB up the A gap running DUO. He doesn't win with size, he wins with vision, staying small, and quickness. People just keep assuming Pringle is not a good inside runner. Totally false. This is why I am saying he's the best RB on the team. For our scheme it's pretty **** dangerous to have a 10.4 RB who is actually a really good vertical inside runner in our DUO scheme. Perfect fit.

If Fletcher keeps killing it out of pistol then he will have something to say about that comment in 2026. And to be clear I hope he takes his game to yet another level and proves me wrong. This to me isn't about winning an argument or predicting something correctly. I want Fletcher to prove me wrong and end up in the NFL a rich man.
If you rewatch the NC State game you’ll actually find very little usage of duo when Pringle is in. I found one and due to the angle, it was hard to tell if it was inside zone or duo. I agree that Pringle is a good player but disagree with your point that he is Miamis best A gap/Duo RB because the film cannot support your claim. At least in this game, his touches were engineered to hit the B or C gap. His chunk plays came with pulling lineman out in front. He was good catching passes out of the backfield as well, which would help this season with mitigating defensive coordinators sending pressure when he’s in the game. I appreciate the energy for the player but this particular game film cannot support the claims you make.

1st quarter
12:14- 4yd rush (wide zone)
10:32- 4yd rush (pin and pull)
9:18- 4yd rush (split zone)
6:22- 8yd rush (power)
0:35- 5yd rush (wide zone)

2nd quarter
9:27- 5yd rush (power)

3rd quarter
14:53- 2yd rush (pin and pull)
13:31- 4yd rush (inside zone)
12:08- 3yd rush (inside zone but could be duo, tv sideline view not great)
9:04- 12yd rush (power)
8:30- 23yd rush (pin and pull? Playside guard and backside tackle pull while covered lineman downblock)
7:50- 3yd rush (inside zone)
5:53-17yd rush (power)
5:23- 2yd rush (wide zone)
1:14- 3yd rush (pin and pull)

4th quarter
13:58- 15yd rush (power)
12:34- 2yd rush (gt counter)
I labeled plays to the best of my layman’s ability, something is wrong, I’m happy to change it.

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Pull the other games. He's the best inside runner. Is still consider b-gap the middle. I'm not making this up. D$ is also now finally realized he's actually a straight up the gut runner. I do also have to credit Pete for being the first to spot this last summer. He has a knack for popping thru holes you didn't see were there. But again here he is with a 6.8 ypc performance. We didn't have too many of those all season until A&M.
 
Not a bad block. 28.15. Nice 7 yard run up the A gap afterwards.


I think this is the play that got him pulled at 1.16. He missed the late blitz from Styles
 
Pull the other games. He's the best inside runner. Is still consider b-gap the middle. I'm not making this up. D$ is also now finally realized he's actually a straight up the gut runner. I do also have to credit Pete for being the first to spot this last summer. He has a knack for popping thru holes you didn't see were there. But again here he is with a 6.8 ypc performance. We didn't have too many of those all season until A&M.
I'm not pulling all the other games, you can do that work and show the proof. I'm not going to argue whether b-gap is the middle or not because that depends on how the OC and oline coach want to categorize their runs. In the post I responded to, you stated, "If you do watch the tape what you'll notice very quickly is Pringle is actually our best RB up the A gap running DUO," but the evidence shows one instance of duo at best, so your opinion is not based on what happened on the field. I'm not disagreeing that Pringle isn't a good running back. I am holding to my opinion that your opinion cannot be backed by game film.
 
I'm not pulling all the other games, you can do that work and show the proof. I'm not going to argue whether b-gap is the middle or not because that depends on how the OC and oline coach want to categorize their runs. In the post I responded to, you stated, "If you do watch the tape what you'll notice very quickly is Pringle is actually our best RB up the A gap running DUO," but the evidence shows one instance of duo at best, so your opinion is not based on what happened on the field. I'm not disagreeing that Pringle isn't a good running back. I am holding to my opinion that your opinion cannot be backed by game film.
And all you proved was we didn't run DUO a lot in that game as you said. He still was very productive and still ran it up the middle well. If I recall that was right after the SMU game and the media was all over Dawson for just running up the A gap play after play.
 
According to Pro Football Focus, the 2025 Miami Hurricanes averaged only 1.41 yards per carry before contact, which ranked No. 111 overall in the country. For a point of reference, Utah was the best team in the country in yards per carry before contact at 3.06 yards per carry before contact. Georgia tech was the best ACC team at 2.60 yards per carry before contact.
 
I don’t really care much for this debate, i think pringle, fletcher, and brown played their roles well last season, but here’s evidence you asked for:

Miami vs Ohio State
1:45 left in the first quarter, 2nd and 6
Pringle is late reading the A gap blitz and gets run over

4:39 left in the third quarter, 2nd and 8
Pringle misses his assignment and allows the nickel blitz to get home. Sack on Beck for a 1 yard loss.

Source:

That said, Mark missed one in the ole miss game that led to a sack as well and I’m sure the tape over the course of the season shows missed assignments and mistakes by all the backs. I’m looking forward to seeing all of them take the next step this season.

Fam I was obviously aware he did miss something in the OSU game or he wouldn't have been pulled. My point is there's not a huge sample size of his mistakes. There's just a couple. This blocking problem is a bit overstated.

Edit....good job pointing out the Fletcher missed block. I was going to bring it up. Fair post.
 
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