Valentine Thread: Set to visit this weekend....maybe.

[Ibis Wingz]

According to the Miami Herald Al Golden visited Valentine today and he is visiting this weekend. He owes that much at least to Hurlie Braown who is his recruiter and the person who will take the heat. Folks LSU is not Alabama and I think Golden gets a National Championship before Miles!

Too late. Miles already has one.

That one doesn't count.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

so C4L you can look at it like this. You are right about LSU having a history of doing dirty dealings. You are probably right that miami has to be more careful than most, especially with the ncaa recently off their back and still on prob.

So maybe the fact that miami is still in it means TV is not about the money? maybe LSU is actually just recruiting him?

if it were about the money then you would see a whole different cast of characters in his final 2 or 3. ****, he probably makes that texas trip.

Why? It went from Miami to L$u with Dwayne Bowe (leaning) AND Patrick Peterson (commit). Almost EXACTLY how this has played out.

And who says Miami is really still in it? As I said from the beginning, I will be surprised if he makes the OV. I still remain skeptical. Kid was blacked out as of today when AG showed up at the school. Even Pete was posting that UM had no idea what was going on with the kid. His HC refused to talk to CS about TV, but then turned around and gave an LSU site some comments about TV.

Ill be surprised if he follows through with the OV. I HOPE HE DOES. But this whole situation stinks to me. And I would not be surprised at all if the OV got "cancelled" at the last minute.

 

[chicanego]

That the kid is being bought off by LSU. I think all the red flags are there. If he comes here, I will GLADLY say I was DEAD WRONG.

/facepalm.


OK, carry on. Sorry to interrupt I'll go back to searching for posts to like.

And please show me "all these threads" where Im accusing "everyone" of taking money???

Ive referenced TWO situations this WHOLE cycle that I found odd. And the only one Ive been discussing lately is TV. A kid whose "handler" is a notorious street agent, who was kicked off of SFE for "unethical conduct".

But yeah, Im the one whose "out there". LMAO. You cats live in a fantasy world.

You've spent a substantial amount of claiming that multiple prospects we have not landed are being paid, despite not actually having any proof. And everyone else lives in a fantasy world?

Who are the "multiple" prospects? Ive never flat out said Sony is being paid. I said the situation had red flags all over it, and was highly suspicious, but I didnt claim he was being paid. I have said that I DO believe L$U is buying or trying to buy TV. And if Im wrong, I will say Im dead wrong.

So who are the "multiple prospects" I have claimed are being paid? Please list them.

You have, at the very least, insinuated on multiple occasions that something funny is going on at American Heritage High School and w/ Sony.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, CAPS. I'm not going to go thread digging to find specific examples, but give it up man.

 

[CaneLos]

LSU doesn't have to offer $$$ in order to get a kid from us. They're a proven developer of talent while we on the other hand have a staff that hasn't shown that they can. I'm actually astonished that we've been able to kid these high level defensive recruits to commit whilst having such a horrid defense.

 

[killa1storm]

Jesus christ.

C4L You keep missing the point. You have set up a nice box for yourself where if he chooses school A he's getting paid and if he chooses school B he isn't. You keep missing the freaking point that if a kid is about getting paid then he's going to try to get money from all schools he's interested in. Your logic is ******* retarded. ****.

 

[tokengator]

Patrick Peterson (commit).

Patrick Peterson could not get into miami or any state school. His tests were horse**** and flagged. Remember he had to drive to take a last minute test (and passed) to get by the CH and get into LSU? Maybe Miami was playing the game too and lsu priced them out eventually? Too tough for you consider I guess...but anyway he was committed to Miami early then **** went sour.

There is no similarities to that and this. TV is still considering miami, apparently. Apparently he is still planning to visit? If he doesn't visit then you may have a point.


I don't remember the bowe saga. I wasn't really following recruiting then but please don't waste your time explaining it because I really don't care.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

/facepalm.


OK, carry on. Sorry to interrupt I'll go back to searching for posts to like.

And please show me "all these threads" where Im accusing "everyone" of taking money???

Ive referenced TWO situations this WHOLE cycle that I found odd. And the only one Ive been discussing lately is TV. A kid whose "handler" is a notorious street agent, who was kicked off of SFE for "unethical conduct".

But yeah, Im the one whose "out there". LMAO. You cats live in a fantasy world.

You've spent a substantial amount of claiming that multiple prospects we have not landed are being paid, despite not actually having any proof. And everyone else lives in a fantasy world?

Who are the "multiple" prospects? Ive never flat out said Sony is being paid. I said the situation had red flags all over it, and was highly suspicious, but I didnt claim he was being paid. I have said that I DO believe L$U is buying or trying to buy TV. And if Im wrong, I will say Im dead wrong.

So who are the "multiple prospects" I have claimed are being paid? Please list them.

You have, at the very least, insinuated on multiple occasions that something funny is going on at American Heritage High School and w/ Sony.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, CAPS. I'm not going to go thread digging to find specific examples, but give it up man.

Yes, and I have explained that. I HAVE said that I find the Sony situation unusual. And I also find it odd that the staff is not going around Heritage much. I have now clairified what I meant by that, but I have not accused anyone specifically of anything there. Just that I find it odd and unusual. As for Heritage, I have also explained the various things that could be leading to it, many of which dont have to be about the program itself being dirty, nor the coaches there. Just something around that program that may have our coaches uncomfortable. Ive come to believe that there was a reason Shannon stayed away from so many So Fla schools. I dont think he's as stupid as many of us used to think.

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

Manny Navarro ‏@Manny_Navarro 29s

#Champagnat DT Travonte Valentine says Al Golden visited him this morning and he will take an official visit to #UM this weekend

Oops

 

[PUNCICANE]

Manny Navarro ‏@Manny_Navarro · 22m
Travonte Valentine said a big reason #LSU leads are bonds he's built with fellow South Florida kids already there, #Hallandale S John Battle

we need to surround this kid with Moten, Chad, Yearby, Smith, and any other local beast..

I would pitch Chad on the possibility of sacrificing his Bama trip to help press TV

Chad already said he's not interested in recruiting guys to UM. On top of that, he's not even solid to UM.

@Manny_Navarro: Spent 45 minutes chatting with #BookerT All American DE Chad Thomas. He's 1,000 percent #Hurricane Music program won him over long time ago

 

[De Pinga]

Genron, LSU, and the high school are all dirty and corrupt; they're all on a money hunt and I want a full scale investigation launched into this! That's why we lost him.

Valentine ends up at Miami.

Just kidding, guys. He turned down the money, lulz.

Nope. I said I will admit I was DEAD WRONG if he signs here. DEAD WRONG. Let me know the next time you grow the balls to even suggest you may be wrong about anything.

dead wrong about what?

That the kid is being bought off by LSU. I think all the red flags are there. If he comes here, I will GLADLY say I was DEAD WRONG

.

/facepalm.


OK, carry on. Sorry to interrupt I'll go back to searching for posts to like.

.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Jesus christ.

C4L You keep missing the point. You have set up a nice box for yourself where if he chooses school A he's getting paid and if he chooses school B he isn't. You keep missing the freaking point that if a kid is about getting paid then he's going to try to get money from all schools he's interested in. Your logic is ****ing retarded. ****.

No, its not. See my post to Token. This is pretty much how the Patrick Peterson and Dwayne Bowe situations played out. Those guys didnt have all these other SEC programs as their finalists. They went from Miami, to being in love with LSU. All the while the smoke was BILLOWING out that something shady was going on, and both were later confirmed. So no, if money was offered, you dont necessarily have to have all these other notorious programs in the picture at the end.

 

[tokengator]

They went from Miami, to being in love with LSU.

wrong.

Peterson tried to get into FSU and UF before ending up at LSU. He could not attend college in this state, his tests were ****ed up....and they still got flagged by the CH when he tried to get into LSU.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Smoke, BILLOWING.

 

[PUNCICANE]

Jesus christ.

C4L You keep missing the point. You have set up a nice box for yourself where if he chooses school A he's getting paid and if he chooses school B he isn't. You keep missing the freaking point that if a kid is about getting paid then he's going to try to get money from all schools he's interested in. Your logic is ****ing retarded. ****.

No, its not. See my post to Token. This is pretty much how the Patrick Peterson and Dwayne Bowe situations played out. Those guys didnt have all these other SEC programs as their finalists. They went from Miami, to being in love with LSU. All the while the smoke was BILLOWING out that something shady was going on, and both were later confirmed. So no, if money was offered, you dont necessarily have to have all these other notorious programs in the picture at the end.

you're right...and you're wrong.

All teams partake in some form of shady ****. You cant fight the good fight and win.... Some have deeper pockets then others, like LSU. Some do a better job of allotting the funds to specific talent. Some have invested for years with specific handlers, like Genron, thus will get his help more then others... Its not that complicated. Everyone cheats, just some are better at it, have done it longer, and have more money and infrastructure to conceal the cheating (LSU, BAMA...)

 

[valid]

yall porstin in a C4L thread,

 

[am1640]

The D'Onofrio-Champagnat incident has been talked about on here before, but I will go through it again. Drummond and Tunsil claim that D'Onofrio called their school a "dump" to one of their players (Joe Jones 2012 class), and that kid ended up transferring to Chaminade because he said that Miami (D'Onofrio) told him he would not offer him if he was at Champagnat. I will emphasize that this is according to Drummond and Tunsil so I'm not sure if the kid made that up to avoid having to explain why he transferred. Whether it was true or not, they took it to heart and have not been a fan of D'Onofrio since.

LMAO at that BS story about Joe being the reason they don't like D'Onofrio. That kid didn't get a **** offer while he was at Chaminade either (**** i don't even remember kid even going to college at all), but D'Onofrio wanted that scrawny **** so bad he had to get him away from Champagnat smdh. I'll laugh right in them ****** face if they told me that BS.

 

[tokengator]

Jesus christ.

C4L You keep missing the point. You have set up a nice box for yourself where if he chooses school A he's getting paid and if he chooses school B he isn't. You keep missing the freaking point that if a kid is about getting paid then he's going to try to get money from all schools he's interested in. Your logic is ****ing retarded. ****.

No, its not. See my post to Token. This is pretty much how the Patrick Peterson and Dwayne Bowe situations played out. Those guys didnt have all these other SEC programs as their finalists. They went from Miami, to being in love with LSU. All the while the smoke was BILLOWING out that something shady was going on, and both were later confirmed. So no, if money was offered, you dont necessarily have to have all these other notorious programs in the picture at the end.

you're right...and you're wrong.

All teams partake in some form of shady ****. You cant fight the good fight and win.... Some have deeper pockets then others, like LSU. Some do a better job of allotting the funds to specific talent. Some have invested for years with specific handlers, like Genron, thus will get his help more then others... Its not that complicated.

bingo and in so few words.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Patrick Peterson (commit).

Patrick Peterson could not get into miami or any state school. His tests were horse**** and flagged. Remember he had to drive to take a last minute test (and passed) to get by the CH and get into LSU? Maybe Miami was playing the game too and lsu priced them out eventually? Too tough for you consider I guess...but anyway he was committed to Miami early then **** went sour.

There is no similarities to that and this. TV is still considering miami, apparently. Apparently he is still planning to visit? If he doesn't visit then you may have a point.


I don't remember the bowe saga. I wasn't really following recruiting then but please don't waste your time explaining it because I really don't care.

I doubt Miami was "playing the game" seeing as the NCAA just tore the program to shreds looking under every rock, and was unable to find much beyond that little d0uchebag twirp throwing a few bucks around for some meals, etc... But Peterson played out much like Valentine has. Committed for a long time, all the smoke and rumors going around for a while, shady characters, and then boom, the switch, and LO and behold, his father gets a great high paying job in LA right after he signs. And as for Bowe, the reason we all found out about it, was precisely because the staff had to basically walk out of his house when the Grandmother told them what LSU was offereing and how much they would have to put up to match it. UM was on probation then too.

I dont think UM has been pure as angels, no program has. But it doesnt have the pockets that the massive $EC programs do. L$u is among the DIRTIEST of those.

 

[tokengator]

your memory or perception of what happened with Peterson is woefully mistaken. Perhaps bigconch crap is working its way in there and clouding it up. Peterson is from my neck of the woods, his story isn't that complicated and pretty well known.

I am not going to pretend to know if the family was making huge demands. I don't know. What I do know:

- Miami, UF, and FSU all told him he would not get through the clearing house with his test scores, particularly his 4 or 5 hour drive to take the tests.
- He wanted to EE.
- Miles promised him he would EE at LSU and to not worry about the stuff the florida schools were telling him. He and his family bought into it (and I am sure some booster help assisted in getting him to LSU over some other major out of state schools)
- His tests were flagged. His EE never happened.


AFTER that **** got really sideways.

 

[2Focusd804]

Capslock still allowed to post this crap with no evidence yet Wezzies getting banned left n right?

smh