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nickster said:
If you vote for Val Demings just understand she stood tall with AOC and the fabulous four denigrating the USA and calling for DEFUNDING THE POLICE IN A BIG WAY last year. Now she has changed her tune ONLY because she understands that defunding the police rhetoric is not going to get her elected. If you vote for her you need you really don't care about Florida and want chaos in our streets. You probably voted for Andrew Gillum for Governor 2 years ago and now he may be facing a very long sentence of jail time. That clown was close to being our Governor. WAKE UP AMERICA!
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Lol . She was a police chief for 27 years.
 
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AUcane said:
Don't believe it. From what I've read and heard, there are still moderates in both parties but the far right is much more influential than the far left in their respective parties. This is mostly in the house as the senators are generally pretty moderate on both sides of the aisle. I've had the fortune of interacting with a bunch via my former company's PAC lobbying efforts in DC.
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Once again, because your view of far right now is not the same from 10 years ago. Obama when he ran opposed *** marriage, was against abortion, are those views even allowed in the Democrat party anymore? Just because the left went crazy town and all of you decided to ride along doesn't mean the other side did the same. You slid the scale for what is considered far right. Name all the changes that make all these people "far right" now. Clear you people don't know many conservatives. Most of us are/were disenfranchised from the Republican party for the past 30 years. That isn't because they went far right. Quite the opposite.
 
AUcane said:
Don't believe it. From what I've read and heard, there are still moderates in both parties but the far right is much more influential than the far left in their respective parties. This is mostly in the house as the senators are generally pretty moderate on both sides of the aisle. I've had the fortune of interacting with a bunch via my former company's PAC lobbying efforts in DC.
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What’s far right ? Beens the media is 90 % slanted left. If you don’t agree with their lunacy you’re considered alt right lol. If you disagree with their draconian policies the last few years you’re a white supremacist. The scary thing is one side controls the narrative. Hunter Biden has proven that.
 
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nobeastofburden said:
And now he is a right wing extremist right?
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AUcane said:
Don't believe it. From what I've read and heard, there are still moderates in both parties but the far right is much more influential than the far left in their respective parties. This is mostly in the house as the senators are generally pretty moderate on both sides of the aisle. I've had the fortune of interacting with a bunch via my former company's PAC lobbying efforts in DC.
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From what I can tell, people are just developing into extremes, while the middle gets completely unrecognized.
 
I would say every member of the House Freedom Caucus is Far Right and I'm sure Democrats have one that is Far Left.

As Bender just posted, middle is becoming unrecognized now.
 
nobeastofburden said:
Just because the left went crazy town and all of you decided to ride along doesn't mean the other side did the same.
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The other side did the exact same. I mean, completely the exact same. When the vast majority of the party is literally stanning one single dude and eliminating anyone that tries to go against him with mob mentality, its obvious.
 
nobeastofburden said:
Once again, because your view of far right now is not the same from 10 years ago. Obama when he ran opposed *** marriage, was against abortion, are those views even allowed in the Democrat party anymore? Just because the left went crazy town and all of you decided to ride along doesn't mean the other side did the same. You slid the scale for what is considered far right. Name all the changes that make all these people "far right" now. Clear you people don't know many conservatives. Most of us are/were disenfranchised from the Republican party for the past 30 years. That isn't because they went far right. Quite the opposite.
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Today's far right Q-trump is mostly made up of the same type of players of the tea party from 10+ years ago. And yes, that is more influential than the far left. Obama was more centrist than folks may believe.

Cribby said:
What’s far right ? Beens the media is 90 % slanted left. If you don’t agree with their lunacy you’re considered alt right lol. If you fall then out on their draconian policies the last few years you’re a white supremacist. The scary thing is one side controls the narrative. Hunter Biden proved that.
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Far right is the agenda started by Newt in the early 90s which devolved into the tea party and now the modern version - the Q party of Trump. That's the far right and they are more influential than the far left imo.
 
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AUcane said:
Today's far right Q-trump is mostly made up of the same type of players of the tea party from 10+ years ago. And yes, that is more influential than the far left. Obama was more centrist than folks may believe.



Far right is the agenda started by Newt in the early 90s which devolved into the tea party and now the modern version - the Q party of Trump. That's the far right and they are more influential than the far left imo.
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LOL, you can't be serious. Tea Party was far right? My goodness gracious. You have been hoodwinked into believing that.
 
Bender said:
The other side did the exact same. I mean, completely the exact same. When the vast majority of the party is literally stanning one single dude and eliminating anyone that tries to go against him with mob mentality, its obvious.
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Ok name all the policies that we believe now that we didn't believe 10/20/30 years ago. No, we stayed the same while all of you adopted all the progressive nonsense. Now, anything right of that view is extreme to you. Joe Biden wrote the biggest crime bill ever in the 90's. Yeah it was the other side though.......
 
And thats not even criticism on one party, I hate both, believe me. Politics has moved into "you either agree with me or you get ready to get cancelled". Its a sickening development where every discourse suddenly has the glaring need of ending in a black/white answer with no flexibility whatsoever.
 
nobeastofburden said:
LOL, you can't be serious. Tea Party was far right? My goodness gracious. You have been hoodwinked into believing that.
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At that time, yes (relatively speaking), and like I said, they were the antecedent of the modern day alt right movement. Same wine, different bottle.
 
nobeastofburden said:
Ok name all the policies that we believe now that we didn't believe 10/20/30 years ago. No, we stayed the same while all of you adopted all the progressive nonsense. Now, anything right of that view is extreme to you. Joe Biden wrote the biggest crime bill ever in the 90's. Yeah it was the other side though.......
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30 Years of World Politics: What Has Changed? | Journal of Democracy

Democracies are grappling with an era of transformation: Identity is increasingly replacing economics as the major axis of world politics. Technological change has deepened social fragmentation…
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AUcane said:
At that time, yes (relatively speaking), and like I said, they were the antecedent of the modern day alt right movement. Same wine, different bottle.
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LOL. Please enlighten me to all these right wing beliefs. I would love to see the evolution of what makes them now deemed alt right.
 
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I like how its okay for some to sum everyone up as "left" and denounce them as such.

But as soon as some call others right, oh no, thats bad, you can't do that.
 
Bender said:
www.journalofdemocracy.org

30 Years of World Politics: What Has Changed? | Journal of Democracy

Democracies are grappling with an era of transformation: Identity is increasingly replacing economics as the major axis of world politics. Technological change has deepened social fragmentation…
www.journalofdemocracy.org www.journalofdemocracy.org
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Did you even read what it said. My gosh we are doomed. Russia and the alt right Christian. Oh my. Yeah don't listen to the very people that you consider alt right, take the academics version instead. Good luck with that.
 
nobeastofburden said:
You may believe that I don't. Repubs moved to the center/left, the progressives took over the entire dem party. Why everything is labeled alt right now, because anything right of crazy town progressive is considered right wing extremism. Ridiculous. Entire groups of republicans broke apart into little clicks. Log cabin republicans, pro choice, lincoln project, etc etc etc.
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Just who are these Rs you speak of? Any R moving leftward in their political stance has either chosen not to run in 2022, or were "primaried" out.
 
nobeastofburden said:
Did you even read what it said. My gosh we are doomed. Russia and the alt right Christian. Oh my. Yeah don't listen to the very people that you consider alt right, take the academics version instead. Good luck with that.
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Yeah true, why should I listen to political academics/science instead of someone favoring Trump? My mistake. Imagine listening to a PhD Harvard grad and a director at Stanford for a graduate program specified in political science. I'm an idiot, I am sorry.
 
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