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craval85 said:
What evidence do you have that MIA has money? The facts and the data say otherwise.
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Actually, the facts and the data say exactly that. And now with the ACC network they have even more.

They paid $4 mil for a HC and $1mil for an OC. The problem isn’t the amount of money, the problem is on who they spend that money.
 
1mg of Epi said:
Actually, the facts and the data say exactly that. And now with the ACC network they have even more.

They paid $4 mil for a HC and $1mil for an OC. The problem isn’t the amount of money, the problem is on who they spend that money.
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This 💯. There’s multiple BOT members at UM who could buy out the late T Boone Pickens 2-4 times over. They are football fans. You’re ignorant, naive, and flat out wrong if you believe otherwise.
 
TrueFloridian said:
This 💯. There’s multiple BOT members at UM who could buy out the late T Boone Pickens 2-4 times over. They are football fans. You’re ignorant, naive, and flat out wrong if you believe otherwise.
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Then why aren't they doing it? If they're so rich and love football so much, why do they keep putting up with this nonsense?
 
Kyle Liburd said:
the USC president pretty much said he didn't want Urban Meyer
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The president is a SHE. And there's a legitimate civil war going on there internally right now. Big boosters and fans and some of the BOT want Meyer. Old school admin and other boosters want the status quo. Meyer demands total control of programs and they aren't willing to give that up. ANd then there are some other issues associated with him....

We have very close friends with kids who have played and are currently athletes there. I've been following this closely.

BTW, they cite Miami as the example of how to kill a formerly relevant program..... It's sad.

They are organizing a protest on campus for this Friday supposedly. Everyone waiting for some kind of official word today.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
The president is a SHE. And there's a legitimate civil war going on there internally right now. Big boosters and fans and some of the BOT want Meyer. Old school admin and other boosters want the status quo. Meyer demands total control of programs and they aren't willing to give that up. ANd then there are some other issues associated with him....

We have very close friends with kids who have played and are currently athletes there. I've been following this closely.

BTW, they cite Miami as the example of how to kill a formerly relevant program..... It's sad.

They are organizing a protest on campus for this Friday supposedly. Everyone waiting for some kind of official word today.
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thanks for clearing it up.
 
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nystateofmind said:
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Again, it's easy to fire a guy—it's not easy to hire someone infinitely better, who would come in and make a massive, program-changing difference while shortening the "rebuild" phase all new head coaches go through.

I live in Southern California and have my share of puke-*** Trojans fans—who have been yelling all season about getting rid of Helton, while talking up Urban Meyer as their game-changer. It was as humorous as our fans pounding the drum about Jon Gruden almost a decade ago.

Meanwhile, how many threads on here months back from our fan base praising USC for being "proactive" in this process and how they were showing balls for "going after" Meyer and what not—and it was all bullsh1t.


There aren't a ton of next-level guys out there and USC is prudent in retaining Helton for another season; going 8-4 in his fourth year, after 5-7 last year—and reevaluating at the end of 2020 if / when Meyer wants back in the game, or there are better options available, in a season other big programs aren't looking to replace guys.

That, and you absolutely sell your soul to the devil if you bring on Urban Meyer—a guy who has only succeeded at full blown football factories that couldn't give less of a **** about academics; which is a hard sell at a lot of places. Dude had over three dozen arrests on his watch at Florida, while covering up domestic abuse at Ohio State. That isn't going to sell at a lot of places—which is why you also see a guy like Art Briles coaching Texas high school football, opposed to at a major university, after the success he had at Baylor.

If Meyer ever wants to coach again, he'd be a fool to not tell Ohio State to bump Ryan Day's *** and to give him back the championship-caliber program he already built there. What is his clearest paths to another national title—outside of what already exists in Columbus? He's really gonna go rebuild USC from the ground up and try to built a PAC-12 program capable of dethroning some beasts in the SEC, or a Clemson? Please.

Not a good off-season to be playing a game of college football head coach musical chairs.
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
Again, it's easy to fire a guy—it's not easy to hire someone infinitely better, who would come in and make a massive, program-changing difference while shortening the "rebuild" phase all new head coaches go through.

I live in Southern California and have my share of puke-*** Trojans fans—who have been yelling all season about getting rid of Helton, while talking up Urban Meyer as their game-changer. It was as humorous as our fans pounding the drum about Jon Gruden almost a decade ago.

Meanwhile, how many threads on here months back from our fan base praising USC for being "proactive" in this process and how they were showing balls for "going after" Meyer and what not—and it was all bullsh1t.


There aren't a ton of next-level guys out there and USC is prudent in retaining Helton for another season; going 8-4 in his fourth year, after 5-7 last year—and reevaluating at the end of 2020 if / when Meyer wants back in the game, or there are better options available, in a season other big programs aren't looking to replace guys.

Not a good off-season to be playing a game of college football head coach musical chairs.
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Smart and handsome.

What a combo.

:)
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
Again, it's easy to fire a guy—it's not easy to hire someone infinitely better, who would come in and make a massive, program-changing difference while shortening the "rebuild" phase all new head coaches go through.

I live in Southern California and have my share of puke-*** Trojans fans—who have been yelling all season about getting rid of Helton, while talking up Urban Meyer as their game-changer. It was as humorous as our fans pounding the drum about Jon Gruden almost a decade ago.

Meanwhile, how many threads on here months back from our fan base praising USC for being "proactive" in this process and how they were showing balls for "going after" Meyer and what not—and it was all bullsh1t.


There aren't a ton of next-level guys out there and USC is prudent in retaining Helton for another season; going 8-4 in his fourth year, after 5-7 last year—and reevaluating at the end of 2020 if / when Meyer wants back in the game, or there are better options available, in a season other big programs aren't looking to replace guys.

That, and you absolutely sell your soul to the devil if you bring on Urban Meyer—a guy who has only succeeded at full blown football factories that couldn't give less of a **** about academics; which is a hard sell at a lot of places. Dude had over three dozen arrests on his watch at Florida, while covering up domestic abuse at Ohio State. That isn't going to sell at a lot of places—which is why you also see a guy like Art Briles coaching Texas high school football, opposed to at a major university, after the success he had at Baylor.

If Meyer ever wants to coach again, he'd be a fool to not tell Ohio State to bump Ryan Day's *** and to give him back the championship-caliber program he already built there. What is his clearest paths to another national title—outside of what already exists in Columbus? He's really gonna go rebuild USC from the ground up and try to built a PAC-12 program capable of dethroning some beasts in the SEC, or a Clemson? Please.

Not a good off-season to be playing a game of college football head coach musical chairs.
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Firing is the easy part.


 
ddann said:
No, he’s just waiting around for Brian Kelly to get fired so he can take over Notre Shame. He’ll continue making the circuit to coach all the teams Canes fans despise the most.
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Notre Dame would be a prime landing spot for Urban Meyer. But he'll have to wait. Kelly went 10-2 with a bad loss to Michigan the eyesore on the season. Is there a reason for ND to fire Kelly, yet?
 
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Hoyacane1620 said:
The president is a SHE. And there's a legitimate civil war going on there internally right now. Big boosters and fans and some of the BOT want Meyer. Old school admin and other boosters want the status quo. Meyer demands total control of programs and they aren't willing to give that up. ANd then there are some other issues associated with him....

We have very close friends with kids who have played and are currently athletes there. I've been following this closely.

BTW, they cite Miami as the example of how to kill a formerly relevant program..... It's sad.

They are organizing a protest on campus for this Friday supposedly. Everyone waiting for some kind of official word today.
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So what was USC's excuse before Carroll coached there? People seem to forget how awul they were for a long stretch.
 
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