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Urban Meyer on Miami Job

305407cane said:
So Urban is saying the georgia job is not as good as the florida job because georgia high school players are more developed? Interesting considering he won a ship at ufag. And hes also saying that all miami needs is a coaching staff that can develop their players and we will be straight?
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On your last point, I don’t think so. Hemos saying Florida kids on average are further behind developmentally when they reach college. They could get similar training at Miami, FSU and UF as they would get at UGA, LSU, and Alabama but would be behind still because they started behind.
 
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DemCanesByke said:
FAU wouldnt be a great barometer for your argument. They have kids from all over. Best players not all from FL.

Qb from texas
2 RBs from AL
Star TE from GA
2nd best linebacker from GA
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I was replying to a post where he stated that no DIv 1 school in FL was competing for a conference championship. Read earlier posts.
 
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The Svengali said:
Its Juedy and that’s it, and even though the hype machine says different, I am not sure he’s top 5 on their roster. And I know he’s not a top 2 WR on that team. Smith and Waddell are better, no matter what the hype machine says. And Waddell is waaaaaay better.
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These are the type post that you have to stay on high alert to.

Waddell is better than Jeudy? Jeudy all hype....

In 2017 he was second on the team in catches with 14 Calvin Ridley had 63

In 2018
He lead the team with 68 catches and 1300 yards...Waddell has 45 catch and 850 yards.

In 2019 Juedy leads the team with 71 catches...Waddell 32...

Like there is no substance to your post. Waddell is a great special teams player and a dynamic weapon that you need to find creative ways to get the ball in his hands but he is no where near the WR that Jeudy is.

You want to hate on So Florida ballers go ahead but at least do it in an educated way.
 
Twhizman said:
it's not a copout.these players don't have the focus nor the work ethic needed.product on field reflects that.that is what Myer is saying about the athletes here.train halfa$$ play halfa$$.that describes our players to a T.
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You sound like the miss informed posters in this thread who don’t actually know anything about the HS football scene.

You watch the canes and think because they are poorly coach and poorly developed that it’s a sign of the kids.

The canes don’t reflect HS ball down here.
 
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KingCane20 said:
Simple, he knows what he’s doing. Knows how to develop his players or get a staff that knows how.
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It isn't really when you consider how big of a business high school football has become in the last decade to decade and a half. Add in the money spent on coaching at that level and the gains in strength and nutrition, you're in to something. Top it all off with the dollars spent at those schools and you get those numbers.

There are athletes in S. FL, nobody disputes that. They're raw as **** and underdeveloped coming into college though so it's a crapshoot with some exceptions being the elite of the elite.
 
iLIKEDADE! said:
he’s URBAN MEYER! One of the greatest coaches to ever work a field !!!!

We can’t compare him to Randy, Golden, Coker, Rucht and now Manny.

He’s a hall of game coach. He had Utah balling at one point due to his offensive scheme and developing players. He went like 22-2 in the 2 years he was there.

what he did at bowling green in his short span is still considered today to be one of the greatest turnarounds in the history of the NCAA ... add Matt Rhule to that list now. But we’re talking about a GOAT coach.

Bobby Bowden has allllllllll that talent allllllll those years and won how many rings? 2?

Urban won that at Florida in like years because he knew 1. How to eye talent, 2. Develop it 3. Coach it up.
S. Fla teams are HIGHLY undisciplined and rely heavily off of pure talent just like Fsu did when they won w Winston and Freeman/Cook
now look how both the mighty have fallen
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Really using Bowden as an example when we cost him like 5 NCs
 
dukemv said:
Yet kids from South Fl don't go to UM and have very successful college careers? But they're lazy? You don't think that's a result of where they're in school?
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I would say it's a combo.

Add in that they're all mercenaries from a young age, they don't have that all in attitude. **** gets tough or a better perceived opportunity presents itself, they bounce.
 
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Backed in the day you could develop players when you had higher scholarships limits : **** you could even redshirt a complete class How many freshmen actually had key roles on those teams
 
305407cane said:
Doesn’t Tyler Davis start for Clemson? He went to wekiva
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I stand corrected.

Oklahoma: ZERO
Clemson: ONE!
Ohio State: 2
LSU: ZERO

^^Wow, look at all those Florida players. Thats a whopping 3 players between four teams. As many of you’ve stated, and as the evidence clearly shows, the CFP teams are good because they continue to steal all the Florida talent!
 
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The Svengali said:
8 of 11 of those title were between 1983 and 2001. That trend is dead, over...long gone. For example, the state of Florida only has 1 title in the last decade, and outside of that blip, the state of Florida hasn’t even sniffed title contention in **** near 12 years.

The downward trend in state of Florida footbal is unmistakable, striking, and quite obvious to everyone.

The only people that still view the state of Florida football as some dominant beast are people that life in Florida. The rest of America no longer views Florida football that way...hasn’t been that way in 10 years.

Also, of the 4 CFP teams, here are the number of starters from the state of Florida:

Oklahoma: ZERO
Ohio State: 2
LSU: ZERO
Clemson: ZERO
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That may be the case "this" season but that wasn't the case last year or in recent years. Florida players helped get many of these top teams to the point they are now.


The previous couple of years Hollywood Brown was OU best and most explosive skill player.

LSU has had FL players but really doesn't need to go OOS much at all. Peterson from SFL started their little DBU claim though.

OSU cherrypicks Florida better than most. When they won in 2003 their entire WR group was from FL, their best DT and best DB.

Clemson - Watkins and Spiller were their first stars to set things off there. Since then they have been in Florida cherrypicking as well, They may sign X.Henderson and Bowman this class out of Florida.
 
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The Iceman said:
That may be the case "this" season but that wasn't the case last year or in recent years. Florida players helped get many of these top teams to the point they are now.


The previous couple of years Hollywood Brown was OU best and most explosive skill player.

LSU has had FL players but really doesn't need to go OOS much at all. Peterson from SFL started their little DBU claim though.

OSU cherrypicks Florida better than most. When they won in 2003 their entire WR group was from FL, their best DT and best DB.

Clemson - Watkins and Spiller were their first stars to set things off there. Since then they have been in Florida cherrypicking as well, They may sign X.Henderson and Bowman this class out of Florida.
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Hollywood Robinson is one guy from OUs roster last year and the year before. Where are the other FL guys?

Patrick Peterson played at LSU **** near 10 years ago. Spiller played at Clemson over 10 years ago.

The Ohio state team was **** near 20 years ago, mang!
 
The Iceman said:
That may be the case "this" season but that wasn't the case last year or in recent years. Florida players helped get many of these top teams to the point they are now.


The previous couple of years Hollywood Brown was OU best and most explosive skill player.

LSU has had FL players but really doesn't need to go OOS much at all. Peterson from SFL started their little DBU claim though.

OSU cherrypicks Florida better than most. When they won in 2003 their entire WR group was from FL, their best DT and best DB.

Clemson - Watkins and Spiller were their first stars to set things off there. Since then they have been in Florida cherrypicking as well, They may sign X.Henderson and Bowman this class out of Florida.
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Remember when an Alabama staffer said Lamar Miller was better than any RB on Bama's roster?...Saban saw Amari Cooper run one route at a camp and immediately gave Him an offer.
 
The Iceman said:
That may be the case "this" season but that wasn't the case last year or in recent years. Florida players helped get many of these top teams to the point they are now.


The previous couple of years Hollywood Brown was OU best and most explosive skill player.

LSU has had FL players but really doesn't need to go OOS much at all. Peterson from SFL started their little DBU claim though.

OSU cherrypicks Florida better than most. When they won in 2003 their entire WR group was from FL, their best DT and best DB.

Clemson - Watkins and Spiller were their first stars to set things off there. Since then they have been in Florida cherrypicking as well, They may sign X.Henderson and Bowman this class out of Florida.
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I think this post says a lot. The top schools still cherry pick the best kids from Florida, but they don’t build through Florida. Bama and LSU build through LA, MS, AL, and Texas. Georgia and Clemson build through Georgia and the Carolinas. OSU builds through Ohio and the northeast with a strong national presence as well. OU goes through Texas.

It’s tougher to build a strong foundation for a team through Florida players.
 
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