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Upon Further Review: Miami vs. Florida State
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Good question and please realize every team has areas to see improvement.
Obvious answer is in regards to penalties. Against the good teams, Miami is averaging 9.3 penalties per game for 75 yards. Too many of these are mental mistakes rather than aggressive mistakes.
4Q close outs. On offense Miami has really struggled with third downs in the 4Q when teams know they are looking to close out a game. Miami was brutal against FSU in the 4Q going 0-4 on third downs while allowing FSU to consistently convert 3rd/4th downs by losing discipline in their rush lanes on the edge.
Miami's run game against the better defenses hasn't been good. The passing game has carried the day against the better team while hunting for explosives. Against odd/mint/quarters structures, lean more on duo/counter + orbit/jet to widen the apex and keep Beck in RPO answers (glance/bubble) rather than banging into numbers. Teams are stacking the box and it's inside-zone till we die.
Offense sits 36th in Points/Drive (OPD) and 50th in Drive Success Rate, with Offensive Available Yards ranking 55th. This team has not been the dominant force on offense that last year's was and relies a bit too much on explosives. Teams scoring TD's outside of the red zone is volatile and Miami ranked near the top of those numbers.
TD% in the red zone is good, not great. Miami needs to score more TD's.
Snapping has been marginal on special teams. Many of the snaps have been off-target and that can swing a close game.
Punting net average is a negative with our opponents, meaning we are losing yards on any punt exchanges.
The overall profile of Miami is a title contender, but there are gains on the margins that can make them a true data monster.
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It was targeting. I saw it live and thought that will get called. We don't like the rule, we don't like the way it's called, but with the way the rule is written it was targeting.
For holding, you can "ride" a player when they swim, chop, etc. and Bain shot a gap and got a bit high with his arms. I think that gave the officials pause to call it, but it was a hold. Once the defender is past the mid-line you can't grab or impede from the side or back unless continuously engaged. Officials do not like calling holding in the end zone because it directly gives points on a judgment call of theirs but it should have been called.
This game was well officiated and I didn't have too much that I thought was egregious (this is just my eyes, my perspective, my opinion so anyone is free to disagree, of course).
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The "run game against better teams" topic is an entire thread onto itself.
We're not going to effectively "grind it out" (our coaches' words) for the remainder of the season. Yes, it worked against some solid teams early this season. No, it's not sustainable as a framework.
It's time for Dawson and Beck to tear off the next layer of our offense.
We're not going to effectively "grind it out" (our coaches' words) for the remainder of the season. Yes, it worked against some solid teams early this season. No, it's not sustainable as a framework.
It's time for Dawson and Beck to tear off the next layer of our offense.
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Excellent observations as always.
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Explain the team going into lulls and letting 3 rivals back into games. That is a pattern.
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They stink. You should find something different to do with your time on Saturday. Is there a Painting With a Twist near you?
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Try harder. It is a legit question mark that numerous posters have brought up while watching, rewatching and reviewing the game. Throughout this thread, including from the OP, trying to grind it out against better defenses may not be sustainable.
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This x10000000
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Agreed.
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Not sure if it was posted here, but Maribal had podcast interview before, where he talked about a few things and one of them was how Harbaugh won at michigan and just running to run and impose will. Probably offered insight to thinking and what we are doing. I would imagine Dawson definitely bouncing soon, lol..
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Three*.
4th and 1 on the 10, down 3-0 in the 1st quarter. Went for it, got it, scored 2 plays later. Absolutely the correct call, but is that one that a caveman makes? Mario a few years ago absolutely ponders a FG there. Now? Auto-go.
4th and 2 on the FSU 40, up 14-3 on the first drive of the 3rd quarter. Went for it, scored a 40 yard TD. Absolutely the correct call, but is this one that a caveman makes? Up 14-3 and your defense is killing them, 2021 Mario probably thinks about punting and pinning them. Not anymore.
4th and the 8 on the FSU 23, up 28-19 with 1:15 left. Went for it, play was there, didnt execute. Absolutely the correct call, and there is NO WAY Mario makes this decision a couple years ago.
He’ll never be able to escape the GT fiasco. And he really doesn’t deserve to. It was the worst decision I’ve ever seen a coach make. But it was 2 years ago. He’s gotten better in these situations.
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What kind of run aspects, given our o-lines attributes/techniques would you realistically, add in if-any? I know you mentioned seeing more of what we've already implemented -- orbit/jet motions, duo and counter* (which off the top of my head has been decently succesful for us so far). I have noticed some pin and pull as well. But is there anywhere to go from here sprinkling in anything fresh?
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One of my favorite things about football is there is ALWAYS something fresh coming down the pike. Coaches do cool stuff every single week.
My boring feedback is always to have an analyst watching other teams and steal the stuff that fits your philosophy, personnel, etc.
As for the here and now, I like some of our split motion counters and split motion reads that have a natural cut back. We don't run that stuff often and that might be why it's successful when we do.
I wish I had all the answers, but I don't. Just my perspective and what I like to see and what works when I see it if that makes sense.
***Also, we have an excellent QB, OL, and receivers. It's ok to be aggressive with the pass when teams think we (as if I'm on the team) are going to run.
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they are "waiting to open the playbook" against better teams . . .
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Dawson had a nice wrinkle play on the second or third play of the game...11 personal with trips to the right side. Beck in shotgun, Flecther motioned out to the field. Last few games this was a raise up and throw to the RB with the WRs blocking. This time the WRs blocked but Toney came back towards the ball on a middle screen type route. Completed for a few yards, Francis was probably half step slow getting out in front for it to break big. I thought it was pretty creative based on the previous couple games of plays