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Narduzzi wreaks of a Bud Foster type guy. Not sure I even want him to be honest as much as I love his defensive philosophy.
 
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Angry Ibis said:
Consigliere said:
Angry Ibis said:
Consigliere said:
Angry Ibis said:
More than one choice/option would be nice. So would message board discussion without ****ing antics in every thread.
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Is that why you made the bolded post?
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Yes. It was entirely necessary since every thread is about not having Golden as our coach and then a list of names with usually very little depth to them and then some attack on Blake James being a **** and Shalala hating football or making bad hires. So usually we don't need more than one head coach, but since the collective opinion is that the one we have is no longer a good option, I thought we would actually discuss options, the goods and bads, likelihood of them coming here or obstacles to that, bolting to the NFL, are they SEC guys, tied to a school or philosophy we like or don't like, etc.
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Do you need me to tell you to ignore those posts or posts that you don't like?
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So the message board preference is to not breakdown the coaches like I started to to see what may be out there after Golden, but is throwing names out with no substance, attacking the current coaches, and for those who would rather discuss details, ignore every thread?
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I can't control the message board posters, so like I said lead by example. Start a trend.

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I tell ya, boys.

Keep an eye on Memphis in the American Athletic Conference.

Justin Fuente is in his third season there this year. He took over after an abysmal stretch by Larry Porter, who absolutely destroyed the program. Porter took over the program in 2010, and went 3-21 in his two seasons there. Fuente took Porter's talent and managed more wins (4) in 2012 than Porter did in two seasons there. in 2013, Fuente turned over the roster on the offensive side, and only won 3 games. Even with the young and inexperienced roster, he still made a better showing against Duke (28-14 loss) and Louisville @ UL (24-17 loss), than Golden did with a roster full of studs.

This season, Memphis has blown out Austin Peay 63-0 (doesn't sound like much, but Memphis has been like 3-6 against SunbBelt and DII teams over the prior 3 seasons) and lost a nailbiter to #11 UCLA @UCLA 42-35. His QB, Paxton Lynch (recruited by Fuente) has thrown for 547 yards, 69.1 comp%, 3 TDS to 1 INT.

The jury is still out on this team, of course, until they play some more games in 2014. But the offensive turnaround that this team has made under Fuente is remarkable, and the defense has been stout (39th in total yardage, 12th in rushing yards).

Fuente is late 30s and will be an exciting young coach to keep an eye on.
 
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Consigliere said:
Angry Ibis said:
Consigliere said:
Angry Ibis said:
Consigliere said:
Is that why you made the bolded post?
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Yes. It was entirely necessary since every thread is about not having Golden as our coach and then a list of names with usually very little depth to them and then some attack on Blake James being a **** and Shalala hating football or making bad hires. So usually we don't need more than one head coach, but since the collective opinion is that the one we have is no longer a good option, I thought we would actually discuss options, the goods and bads, likelihood of them coming here or obstacles to that, bolting to the NFL, are they SEC guys, tied to a school or philosophy we like or don't like, etc.
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Do you need me to tell you to ignore those posts or posts that you don't like?
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So the message board preference is to not breakdown the coaches like I started to to see what may be out there after Golden, but is throwing names out with no substance, attacking the current coaches, and for those who would rather discuss details, ignore every thread?
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I can't control the message board posters, so like I said lead by example. Start a trend.

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And I did and will continue to do so later, as I am really curious about Narduzzi --- good and bad:

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Originally Posted by Angry Ibis
So other than Butch, have you guys found our next head coach yet?

So far the resume requirements I've seen are: Not Al Golden and has coached some level of football.



Do you want to share your thoughts? Lead by example.



I don't have time right now, but I will try to break down some an example something like this, but in more detail if possible:

Candidate: Butch Davis
Current Job: ESPN
Reasons Why: Recruiting. HC experience. Miami experience. Available.
Possible Concerns: Relationship w/UM. Game day coaching. Years away. UNC/NCAA issue. Will he still have what made him good in 2000 15 years later.
Chances: Med-High

Candidate: Narduzzi
Current Job: MSU DC
Reasons Why: Top ranked defenses
Possible Concerns: Success has been primarily against Big Ten offenses --- (but an actual breakdown when I have time --- was it Top 10 3 years in a row against complete dog **** Big Ten or OSU, Michigan, Wisky, etc.)
Chances:


 
SWFLSWAGG17 said:
The U is a pro style team, on both sides of the ball. That is the reason we put more kids in the NFL than any other school. If you want to bring Oregon's offense here we will spread it out, score points, give up as many on Defense and chase away a ton of kids with NFL mindsets.

Other than that.. great idea.
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Just win.. That's all the matters. The athletes SFLA produces will get there shot in the NFL anyway. We are NFL U because of the talent, not the system
 
Some Realistic HC Candidates (in no particular order, not bringing up Butch, Morris or Frost)

List (A) [Coaches with HC Experience]

1. Chud
2. Mark Hudspeth
3. Josh McDaniels
4. Lovie Smith (was interested in the USC job)
5. Jim McElwain
6. Raheem Morris


List (B) [Coaches with no HC Experience]

1. Rhett Lashlee
2. Justin Wilcox
3. Tom Herman
4. Nathaniel Hackett
5. Dan Quinn
6. Kyle Shanahan
7. Jake Spavital
8. Josh Heupel
9. Pep Hamilton

List (C) [Coaches to watch if our Admin doesn’t make the necessary move this year]

1. Kevin Wilson
2. Bob Diasco
3. Rod Carey
 
My concerns with Narduzzi are as follows:

1. Never been an HC (not a must at all),
2. Turns 49 before NEXT season, and
3. Don't know if he recruits or could recruit (asking him to recruit SF may be challenging)

Not too concerned with his ability to coach a D.
 
Consigliere said:
My concerns with Narduzzi are as follows:

1. Never been an HC (not a must at all),
2. Turns 49 before NEXT season, and
3. Don't know if he recruits or could recruit (asking him to recruit SF may be challenging)

Not too concerned with his ability to coach a D.
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Amen.

All the possibles to date either don't have proven ability, have never been a HC, or to be honest - really don't fit here.

We cannot afford another four years of some SOB learning on the job, or trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

When the guy who fits here, who has the experience, is actually available, and is proven right here at Miami - is ripe for the taking.

Butch Davis without a doubt, will make us great again. The others? Another crapshoot.
 
UMFarArcher said:
Consigliere said:
My concerns with Narduzzi are as follows:

1. Never been an HC (not a must at all),
2. Turns 49 before NEXT season, and
3. Don't know if he recruits or could recruit (asking him to recruit SF may be challenging)

Not too concerned with his ability to coach a D.
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Amen.

All the possibles to date either don't have proven ability, have never been a HC, or to be honest - really don't fit here.

We cannot afford another four years of some SOB learning on the job, or trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

When the guy who fits here, who has the experience, is actually available, and is proven right here at Miami - is ripe for the taking.

Butch Davis without a doubt, will make us great again. The others? Another crapshoot.
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That doesn't mean Narduzzi can't do it just those things would concern me as an AD.

If there was a 35 YO who was having those results and could recruit, I would be less concerned.
 
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Consigliere said:
Some Realistic HC Candidates (in no particular order, not bringing up Butch, Morris or Frost)

List (A) [Coaches with HC Experience]

1. Chud
2. Mark Hudspeth
3. Josh McDaniels
4. Lovie Smith (was interested in the USC job)
5. Jim McElwain
6. Raheem Morris


List (B) [Coaches with no HC Experience]

1. Rhett Lashlee
2. Justin Wilcox
3. Tom Herman
4. Nathaniel Hackett
5. Dan Quinn
6. Kyle Shanahan
7. Jake Spavital
8. Josh Heupel
9. Pep Hamilton

List (C) [Coaches to watch if our Admin doesn’t make the necessary move this year]

1. Kevin Wilson
2. Bob Diasco
3. Rod Carey
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I hadn't heard about Hudspeth until I saw him on your list.. Spent the last hour loking over what he's done at ULL and the coaching tree he comes from. Very impressed! Plus, he's not making much at ULL..
 
Ed Orgeron is someone no one has mentioned

but I am still not at the tar and feather the current staff mode like everyone else
 
grogz26 said:
Ed Orgeron is someone no one has mentioned

but I am still not at the tar and feather the current staff mode like everyone else
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Guy can recruit, and did a decent job as interim with USC. However, I saw what he did with Mississippi's program, and he became a joke before too long. He's got question marks, for sure.
 
canadianhurricane said:
I hadn't heard about Hudspeth until I saw him on your list.. Spent the last hour loking over what he's done at ULL and the coaching tree he comes from. Very impressed! Plus, he's not making much at ULL..
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He is an interesting name. Will be getting a job at a much better school after this season.

The positive...

- HC Experience (11+ Years) + 94-31 College Record
- 3-0 in Bowl Games + Won the Sun Belt + Beat Petrino
- Relatively Young 45
- Took a 3-9 (3-5) ULL team to 9-4 (6-2) in one season

Potential Concern

- Recruiting South Florida
 
SWFLSWAGG17 said:
The U is a pro style team, on both sides of the ball. That is the reason we put more kids in the NFL than any other school. If you want to bring Oregon's offense here we will spread it out, score points, give up as many on Defense and chase away a ton of kids with NFL mindsets.

Other than that.. great idea.
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You're right. Texas A&M is having a horrible time recruiting with their spread offense. So is Oregon and Oklahoma.
 
Consigliere said:
canadianhurricane said:
I hadn't heard about Hudspeth until I saw him on your list.. Spent the last hour loking over what he's done at ULL and the coaching tree he comes from. Very impressed! Plus, he's not making much at ULL..
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He is an interesting name. Will be getting a job at a much better school after this season.

The positive...

- HC Experience (11+ Years) + 94-31 College Record
- 3-0 in Bowl Games + Won the Sun Belt + Beat Petrino
- Relatively Young 45
- Took a 3-9 (3-5) ULL team to 9-4 (6-2) in one season

Potential Concern

- Recruiting South Florida
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I honestly believe if a new coach is hired, he'll need to retain some of the staff just for recruiting. Guys like Hurlie, Ice, and Coley aren't Golden guys, they're MIAMI guys. It will help with the transition.

Coley hasn't shown much as an OC (I can see why he wasn't calling plays @ FSU) and I doubt he'd stay after being 'demoted' to a position coach. He's a beastly recruiter tho. With Hudspeth being a former OC himself, I'd hope he'd sell Coley on keeping the OC title and mentoring him on how to actually call plays, set-up Defenses, and attack weaknesses.

I know I'm getting way ahead of myself but its a nice dream!
 
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canadianhurricane said:
I honestly believe if a new coach is hired, he'll need to retain some of the staff just for recruiting. Guys like Hurlie, Ice, and Coley aren't Golden guys, they're MIAMI guys. It will help with the transition.

Coley hasn't shown much as an OC (I can see why he wasn't calling plays @ FSU) and I doubt he'd stay after being 'demoted' to a position coach. He's a beastly recruiter tho. With Hudspeth being a former OC himself, I'd hope he'd sell Coley on keeping the OC title and mentoring him on how to actually call plays, set-up Defenses, and attack weaknesses.

I know I'm getting way ahead of myself but its a nice dream!
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Although I am not the biggest fan of retaining prior coaches of a failed regime, I could see them doing it with Chud or Hudspeth.

Chud is a **** good OC so it would make sense to retain Coley as a token OC for now. I doubt many teams come calling for his Xs and Os abilities. Chud could teach him a thing or too as HC.

RB: Ice Harris
LB: Hurlie Brown
TE: Larry Scott

Keep Kevin Beard to as an assistant.
 
posted a couple links for the top OCs in the game that I would like to see as head coaches. If your going to go the assistant route then you've got to get one of the best in my opinion. If were looking at someone with HC experience with no baggage and has proven that he can get the job done at a lower tier FBS school then this is the number one candidate hands down who I think would be interested in the job

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Patterson
 
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JayyJr said:
posted a couple links for the top OCs in the game that I would like to see as head coaches. If your going to go the assistant route then you've got to get one of the best in my opinion. If were looking at someone with HC experience with no baggage and has proven that he can get the job done at a lower tier FBS school then this is the number one candidate hands down who I think would be interested in the job

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Patterson
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Well, UM had 2 chances to pursue him ('06 and '10) and nothing came about.
 
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