Uh oh James Franklin

[OBLIVION]

Should have titled this thread troll bait.... If golden left now it would set us back another 10 years you guys are dumb.... Butch isn't coming here and nor is another high-profile coach, when was last time Miami hired a high-profile coach? ******* idiots!

 

[Shinyheadman]

Why do we want another new coach? Really do you guys get rid of girlfriends after every bump in the road? Jesus, I mean we haven't moved backwards. Everyone wants him fired because we haven't moved forward fast enough. Are you ****** kidding me? You do remember all the kids that left early when randy was fired right? All the transfers and the kids who left for the draft? Think about that happening. Think about next year how we could lose more than just duke and perryman. If Golden leaves what reason does Deon have to stay, or Rayshawn, Tyriq etc. Same with recruits. And new athletes. Changing coaches after every "problem" you notice doesn't work. Stop acting entitled because it is Miami. This isn't the late 90s anymore. Get over it. The only thing we deserve is what we get.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Why do we want another new coach? Really do you guys get rid of girlfriends after every bump in the road? Jesus, I mean we haven't moved backwards. Everyone wants him fired because we haven't moved forward fast enough. Are you ****in kidding me? You do remember all the kids that left early when randy was fired right? All the transfers and the kids who left for the draft? Think about that happening. Think about next year how we could lose more than just duke and perryman. If Golden leaves what reason does Deon have to stay, or Rayshawn, Tyriq etc. Same with recruits. And new athletes. Changing coaches after every "problem" you notice doesn't work. Stop acting entitled because it is Miami. This isn't the late 90s anymore. Get over it. The only thing we deserve is what we get.

No, we're not kidding you.

No, we won't get over it. Folks like you are just pitiful. No sense of excellence, no sense of Miami football.

No one changes coaches after "every problem." If that were the case, we'd have fired him after his first game at Maryland three years ago.

Sometimes in life, you get a lemon. Some folks, like the administration, are unerringly great at picking lemons. Now I understand that folks like you are perfectly satisfied to go through life with a series of lemons. Not much of a commentary on your level of expectations.

But for many of us, when we get a lemon, we move to rid ourselves of that inadequate entity. Life has enough problems already, without accepting unacceptable performance. How do you know you have a lemon? The performance sucks. The performance is unreliable. It may look good, and it may sound good, but when for three years it leaves you on the side of the road about a third of the time, then it's time for a change.

Got it?

 

[V-DawgCane]

Well I don't know all the details regarding golden's interview process so I won't comment on that... Though I do think that had Golden won 11 games last year, we might view his interview with a different set of eyes. Maybe not though, as I said I don't know enough about it to really comment beyond understanding his desire to interview for his dream job

None of these people know the details of Al's discussions with Ped State either. It's just another thing for the simpletons to bytch about.

STFU Hero

 

[sebastian91]

Well I don't know all the details regarding golden's interview process so I won't comment on that... Though I do think that had Golden won 11 games last year, we might view his interview with a different set of eyes. Maybe not though, as I said I don't know enough about it to really comment beyond understanding his desire to interview for his dream job

None of these people know the details of Al's discussions with Ped State either. It's just another thing for the simpletons to bytch about.

STFU Hero

Ummmmmm, no.

 

[Bigtip]

this year will likely be F.A.G.s last year

he made his bed with Doritos and he will lie in it with him

 

[FloppyBootStomp]

 

[umfire]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

 

[Shinyheadman]

Why do we want another new coach? Really do you guys get rid of girlfriends after every bump in the road? Jesus, I mean we haven't moved backwards. Everyone wants him fired because we haven't moved forward fast enough. Are you ****in kidding me? You do remember all the kids that left early when randy was fired right? All the transfers and the kids who left for the draft? Think about that happening. Think about next year how we could lose more than just duke and perryman. If Golden leaves what reason does Deon have to stay, or Rayshawn, Tyriq etc. Same with recruits. And new athletes. Changing coaches after every "problem" you notice doesn't work. Stop acting entitled because it is Miami. This isn't the late 90s anymore. Get over it. The only thing we deserve is what we get.

No, we're not kidding you.

No, we won't get over it. Folks like you are just pitiful. No sense of excellence, no sense of Miami football.

No one changes coaches after "every problem." If that were the case, we'd have fired him after his first game at Maryland three years ago.

Sometimes in life, you get a lemon. Some folks, like the administration, are unerringly great at picking lemons. Now I understand that folks like you are perfectly satisfied to go through life with a series of lemons. Not much of a commentary on your level of expectations.

But for many of us, when we get a lemon, we move to rid ourselves of that inadequate entity. Life has enough problems already, without accepting unacceptable performance. How do you know you have a lemon? The performance sucks. The performance is unreliable. It may look good, and it may sound good, but when for three years it leaves you on the side of the road about a third of the time, then it's time for a change.

Got it?

Who the **** said I was satisfied? Are you that black and white about the staff that if you are not for them you are against them? My only reason for not wanting to change coaches is that we will again be talked about as the team who never sticks with a coach and is always rebuilding. It gets frustrating to hear every commit say, I'm bring the U back. We get a new coach and they will be saying that for another 4 years. We haven't taken any steps backwards since him coming here. It has just been a slow up hill battle as it should.

 

[TP801]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

Unfortunately, this is 100 percent truth.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

No, we're not kidding you.

No, we won't get over it. Folks like you are just pitiful. No sense of excellence, no sense of Miami football.

No one changes coaches after "every problem." If that were the case, we'd have fired him after his first game at Maryland three years ago.

Sometimes in life, you get a lemon. Some folks, like the administration, are unerringly great at picking lemons. Now I understand that folks like you are perfectly satisfied to go through life with a series of lemons. Not much of a commentary on your level of expectations.

But for many of us, when we get a lemon, we move to rid ourselves of that inadequate entity. Life has enough problems already, without accepting unacceptable performance. How do you know you have a lemon? The performance sucks. The performance is unreliable. It may look good, and it may sound good, but when for three years it leaves you on the side of the road about a third of the time, then it's time for a change.

Got it?

So let me get this straight, you want change but say that the admin is unerringly great at picking lemons which will mean the result of the change will be wash or no change at all giving credence to the folks that are saying to just might as well stay the course with Golden.
Got it?

 

[wvcanefan]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

You are probably right, but if he goes 7-5 or worse and doesn't get fired **** could get pretty ugly. The cries of racism would be deafening.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

It's not that I disagree with you, but can you please explain your logic behind this? 5-7 should get anybody fired and you make it seem that even D'Onofrio wont be going anywhere.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

You are probably right, but if he goes 7-5 or worse and doesn't get fired **** could get pretty ugly. The cries of racism would be deafening.

That's what I was wondering. Being considered racist in Miami is the last thing the university needs.

 

[umfire]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

That not I disagree with you, but can you please explain your logic behind this? 5-7 should get anybody fired and you make it seem that even D'Onofrio wont be going anywhere.

The administration, from everything I've heard, are big fans of Golden -- less so of Coach D. They appreciate the fact that he stuck with Miami even after the scandal stuff happened, stuff which should have been disclosed to Golden before he was hired but was not. He has improved the team's record every year (and yes I know there are criticisms to be made of looking at just the raw data like that) and the administration gave him a deal through 2020 only last year -- that's a hefty *** buyout. He also graduates players, keeps UM out of the police beat, and is unquestionably adding talent to the roster. I can see
the the administration, if the wheels fall off this season, forcing Golden's hand and forcing
him to kick out Coach D ... but I can't see any scenario that ends with Golden being fired before the end of the 2015/16 season


Shannon and Golden's tenure have been defined by a completely different set of dynamics

 

[ADELPHI]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

You are probably right, but if he goes 7-5 or worse and doesn't get fired **** could get pretty ugly. The cries of racism would be deafening.

I can just envision how this plays out. We go 7-5 and there is no firing. A unimaginable alliance occurs between restless UM fans and the NAACP who all march on Hecht.
That old fossil Gordonsolie and Al Sharpton holding hands while yelling rebukes through a megaphone becomes the face of the movement. UM administration finally gives in and fires Al. We then go on to interview 4 or 5 token black coaches before hiring Steve Kragthorpe who happens to be 1/64 black.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

You are probably right, but if he goes 7-5 or worse and doesn't get fired **** could get pretty ugly. The cries of racism would be deafening.

That's what I was wondering. Being considered racist in Miami is the last thing the university needs.

This just sounds ridiculous. I can see Luke crying about it on his blog but most rational folk would know results were achieved under different circumstances from one another.
Shannon was promoted from within, was familiar with the players, kept the same systems so no learning curve needed, didn't have to deal with a NCAA investigation for 3 years or anything of the sorts, had shoddy recruiting classes the previous 2 classes before he was fired and was on track for another lackluster 2011 class, entered the 2010 season with a veteran QB and solid talent and proceeded to go 7-6 losing culminating with an embarrassing loss at home to FSU.

Compare that to the circumstances Golden dealt with.
Had to start from scratch with no familiarity with the players, implemented new schemes which require a learning curve, was blindsided by Shapiro allegations and subsequent 3 year NCAA investigation which had far reaching effects on player and staff moral, recruiting, etc. Showed excellent leadership and was a great representative of UM through all of this. Has built up good will among the local HS coaching community through camps and other relationship building events, hauled by all indications his best recruiting class is entering his 4th year with a QB that has never taken a snap in a college game.

Comparing the 2 circumstances only a true racist with an agenda like Luke would cry racism if Golden goes 7-5 and isn't fired.

So stop with the ridiculousness already. Pulling the race card is a sign of desperation.
Besides it will set back efforts of hiring black coaches as School leaders would begin to wonder if hiring black coaches is worth dealing with the racism claims by those who feel some sort of social injustice if they ever ended up firing a black coach.

 

[RiDLer80]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

That not I disagree with you, but can you please explain your logic behind this? 5-7 should get anybody fired and you make it seem that even D'Onofrio wont be going anywhere.

The administration, from everything I've heard, are big fans of Golden -- less so of Coach D. They appreciate the fact that he stuck with Miami even after the scandal stuff happened, stuff which should have been disclosed to Golden before he was hired but was not. He has improved the team's record every year (and yes I know there are criticisms to be made of looking at just the raw data like that) and the administration gave him a deal through 2020 only last year -- that's a hefty *** buyout. He also graduates players, keeps UM out of the police beat, and is unquestionably adding talent to the roster. I can see
the the administration, if the wheels fall off this season, forcing Golden's hand and forcing
him to kick out Coach D ... but I can't see any scenario that ends with Golden being fired before the end of the 2015/16 season


Shannon and Golden's tenure have been defined by a completely different set of dynamics

A poster in the WEZ said that because of Golden's handling of the Penn State situation this isn't necessarily true.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

BigTip, there is literally no way Golden will be fired this year. Will not happen, even if we go 5-7. Coach D? Definitely a possibility, but Golden will be here next year for better or worse

That not I disagree with you, but can you please explain your logic behind this? 5-7 should get anybody fired and you make it seem that even D'Onofrio wont be going anywhere.

The administration, from everything I've heard, are big fans of Golden -- less so of Coach D. They appreciate the fact that he stuck with Miami even after the scandal stuff happened, stuff which should have been disclosed to Golden before he was hired but was not. He has improved the team's record every year (and yes I know there are criticisms to be made of looking at just the raw data like that) and the administration gave him a deal through 2020 only last year -- that's a hefty *** buyout. He also graduates players, keeps UM out of the police beat, and is unquestionably adding talent to the roster. I can see
the the administration, if the wheels fall off this season, forcing Golden's hand and forcing
him to kick out Coach D ... but I can't see any scenario that ends with Golden being fired before the end of the 2015/16 season


Shannon and Golden's tenure have been defined by a completely different set of dynamics

A poster in the WEZ said that because of Golden's handling of the Penn State situation this isn't necessarily true.

Only the ignorant don't understand what happened during that whole Ped St. debacle.

AG was groveling for the job and got punked.

 

[RiDLer80]

Not only that, but he went dark and didn't take anyone's calls. His players, recruits or the AD.

He handled it like a ******* coward and ****ed off the admin in the process.