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Bisping is no worse than the rest of them - the commentary for UFC is generally pretty bad these days.
I miss Goldberg. That goofy ******* made it sound like a big fight.
Bisping is no worse than the rest of them - the commentary for UFC is generally pretty bad these days.
There was a moment in the fight last night where it was obvious, too. In a scramble, Jorge was on a sorta knee and had a chance to throw his hip and turn Usman over. It legitimately looked like he tried to turn a 2-ton car and Usman’s leverage and balance just completely stalemated and then overpowered the move.LOL. Phenomenal wrestling doesn't always lead to submissions. Wrestling and submissions aren't synonymous. Usman is an absolute elite wrestler.
EXACTLY on that power move by Usman. I've rolled with guys who are insanely strong like that with that sort of leverage and balance, and it's discouraging. Jorge must have felt that and realized at that point that there was nothing he was going to do to change the outcome.There was a moment in the fight last night where it was obvious, too. In a scramble, Jorge was on a sorta knee and had a chance to throw his hip and turn Usman over. It legitimately looked like he tried to turn a 2-ton car and Usman’s leverage and balance just completely stalemated and then overpowered the move.
Trained in BJJ for a short time, Muay Thai for a short time, and trained in Kenpo for a long while as a kid (with a crazy dude named Bart Vale, who I later found out ‘launched’ shootfighting). Kinda wish I had some formal experience with wrestling, as I’ve always admired some of the instincts those dudes put on display.
I get it can be boring, but it’s sometimes technically cool to watch. Kinda like the defensive battles in the NFL playoffs. Speaking of football, I wish every DT prospect would train in wrestling.
As for what’s next, hope Jorge gets a fight with Coby or Leon.
This. Exact same type of criticism that was lobbied against Royce Gracie back in the original MMA events. Yes, the way Usman won was boring as **** for most fans. It was also a tactical masterclass in how to beat a dangerous brawler like Jorge. If you don't like the way he does it, figure out a way to stop it and make him change. Kind of along the lines of "Dont want to see us dance? Dont let us in the endzone!", right?The thing about the fight game is it's about as pure as it gets. If guys don't like how Usman fights, then they should beat him instead of crying about him being boring. If they think that their exciting game is better than his boring game, then beat him. Take his title, and make him go away.
There was a moment in the fight last night where it was obvious, too. In a scramble, Jorge was on a sorta knee and had a chance to throw his hip and turn Usman over. It legitimately looked like he tried to turn a 2-ton car and Usman’s leverage and balance just completely stalemated and then overpowered the move.
Trained in BJJ for a short time, Muay Thai for a short time, and trained in Kenpo for a long while as a kid (with a crazy dude named Bart Vale, who I later found out ‘launched’ shootfighting). Kinda wish I had some formal experience with wrestling, as I’ve always admired some of the instincts those dudes put on display.
I get it can be boring, but it’s sometimes technically cool to watch. Kinda like the defensive battles in the NFL playoffs. Speaking of football, I wish every DT prospect would train in wrestling.
As for what’s next, hope Jorge gets a fight with Coby or Leon.
I was a kid. But, yeah, out of Tiger and Dragon dojo on 8th. Have a ****load of notes I found in storage a couple years ago. Didn’t even remember taking them. I do remember he’d pick me up over his head and toss me on to a mat as a ‘get your mind right’ lesson. Or, had us ‘spar’ 1 on 2, which in hindsight is non-traditional. Bart was really about the Kenpo code: to eliminate inevitable threats, strike first and multiple times. It was the 80s, but I owe him a part of my mindset. For better or worse, I guess. Not sure if you ever got to see him; we (his students) thought he was like Andre the Giant back then. Good times.You trained with bart?! Man thats too dope. His ken shamrock "pro wrestling fight" launched mad interest in mma over there. No Pride without these "pro bouts". Bart and Mark Jacob's are the man!
That's a pretty sick name drop bro lol
I was a kid. But, yeah, out of Tiger and Dragon dojo on 8th. Have a ****load of notes I found in storage a couple years ago. Didn’t even remember taking them. I do remember he’d pick me up over his head and toss me on to a mat as a ‘get your mind right’ lesson. Or, had us ‘spar’ 1 on 2, which in hindsight is non-traditional. Bart was really about the Kenpo code: to eliminate inevitable threats, strike first and multiple times. It was the 80s, but I owe him a part of my mindset. For better or worse, I guess. Not sure if you ever got to see him; we (his students) thought he was like Andre the Giant back then. Good times.
I used to love that guy. Vale was a masterful self-promoter.I was a kid. But, yeah, out of Tiger and Dragon dojo on 8th. Have a ****load of notes I found in storage a couple years ago. Didn’t even remember taking them. I do remember he’d pick me up over his head and toss me on to a mat as a ‘get your mind right’ lesson. Or, had us ‘spar’ 1 on 2, which in hindsight is non-traditional. Bart was really about the Kenpo code: to eliminate inevitable threats, strike first and multiple times. It was the 80s, but I owe him a part of my mindset. For better or worse, I guess. Not sure if you ever got to see him; we (his students) thought he was like Andre the Giant back then. Good times.
Ima laugh so hard when Usman beats Burns & the same people are complaining about it lol...
It's only "unwatchable" if you don't know or have an appreciation for what you're watching.
You guys want Gladiator fights, but the sport is more complex than that & the negative backlash these guys face has absolutely everything to do with winning because yall want them to lose, that's the Crux of the issue, it's the fact that a guy you don't like keeps winning is what ****es yall off lol.
Because trust me, had Masvidal won & beat Usman the same way Usman beat him, not a single one of you would be mad or upset about it because the guy you like won. Stylistic wins only matter when you're making an argument to take away from someone's win that you're not a fan of.
I get it, I just think it's funny. Because I can guarantee the exact same people ****ed & complaining will say the exact same things when Khabib beats Gaethje. He'll get the same criticisms & it'll all be because everyone just can't wait until he loses.