Ty Simpson (is not yet in the portal)

[P-Tizzle]

Is that supposed to mean something? Mock drafts aren’t actual grades or actual nfl team protections.

You think the ACTUAL NFL draft grade he received back from the league when underclassmen ask was that he was a 1st rounder? I think there is zero chance

well, I anticipated you disagreeing with the evidence since it counters your argument without evidence.

 

[JD08]

see above post.

Aren't jokes supposed to be funny?

 

[P-Tizzle]

Aren't jokes supposed to be funny?

yes, when said by someone funny.

 

[TitansHope]

Schrager's NFL mock draft: 32 predictions based on sources in the league

Peter Schrager's debut piece for ESPN is a Round 1 mock draft based on what he's hearing from his sources around the NFL.

www.espn.com

Reid's seven-round NFL mock draft: We projected fits for all 32 teams across 257 selections

Jordan Reid forecast the entire NFL draft, from the Titans' pick at No. 1 to "Mr. Irrelevant" at No. 257. See where 12 QBs and a ton of playmakers could land.

www.espn.com

2025 NFL three-round mock draft: Shedeur Sanders taken in top three, Steelers address future at QB

At least three quarterbacks have been taken in the first round in eight of the past nine drafts

www.cbssports.com

2025 NFL mock draft: Cam Ward at No. 1 leads final 7-round predictions

Our 2025 NFL draft predictions are in. Here's our final 7-round mock draft for all 257 picks in Green Bay.

www.usatoday.com

lol, this is not what a first round grade is. these are media mock drafts.

 

[JD08]

yes, when said by someone funny.

 

[Calinative]

well, I anticipated you disagreeing with the evidence since it counters your argument without evidence.

All mock drafters put QBs early due to need. Everyone thought Steelers were going qb in 1st. So they put a qb there.

If sanders were in this draft he’d be mocked in 1st… Doesn’t mean he’s got a 1st round grade.

 

[P-Tizzle]

lol, this is not what a first round grade is. these are media mock drafts.

each of these mocks are done by the best guys who have intel with front offices. It's not CIS mock draft. USA Today, Jordan Reid, Peter Schrager, and Josh Edwards are the best.

But I hear you. Can you provide for me something from experts that contradicts Sanders having a first round grade?

 

[ShadowSpring]

18 pages. some of ya'll burning off some nervous energy

 

[Calinative]

FCS at UT Martin for 20 years now. There’s no bad blood aside from Tennessee fans going ape **** and blaming him for Ty not going to Tennessee in the first place.

But he’s a Mississippi guy born and raised and west Tennessee isn’t even Vol territory anymore than it’s Missouri, Arkansas, Memphis, Ole Miss, etc. it’s just a huge mixture.

Don’t really understand the Tennessee leverage here at all. Martin, TN is as far from Knoxville as Miami to Jacksonville.

Genuinely and non Olineman choosing to go to UTenn to improve their draft stock is a moron.

Maybe if you are a pure deep threat WR it’ll help you. But that’s all they produce.

 

[P-Tizzle]

All mock drafters put QBs early due to need. Everyone thought Steelers were going qb in 1st. So they put a qb there.

If sanders were in this draft he’d be mocked in 1st… Doesn’t mean he’s got a 1st round grade.

3 teams say they had first-round grade on QB Shedeur Sanders, AP sources say | FOX Sports

Two general managers and one head coach were surprised Shedeur Sanders wasn’t selected Thursday night because their teams had first-round grades on him, they told The Associated Press

www.foxsports.com

apparently some teams did have him as a first round grade.

 

[PBJFanatic]

Beats me, I know as much as you do.

Yeah. And I dont know ****! lol.

 

[lurker]

The draft itself.

 

[TitansHope]

each of these mocks are done by the best guys who have intel with front offices. It's not CIS mock draft. USA Today, Jordan Reid, Peter Schrager, and Josh Edwards are the best.

But I hear you. Can you provide for me something from experts that contradicts Sanders having a first round grade?

"guys who have intel with front offices" are not nfl team scouting departments, and those teams' grades are what players take into account when deciding to enter the nfl draft.

"A team source said the Browns believed many teams had a Day 2 grade on Sanders"

'Prove all the people who passed on you wrong': Inside the Browns' decision to draft Shedeur Sanders

Cleveland didn't have Sanders graded as an elite prospect, but saw him as a steal once he slid to Day 3.

www.espn.com

"I'm having a really hard time finding coaches or scouts who believe Sanders is a first-round talent," Albert Breer wrote this week. "This, by the way, is separate from any issue anyone has with his personality. Those questions exist, but lots of teams have made exceptions in that department in the past to take on guys with special talents. The problem seems to be that too many folks ... think Sanders [lacks] those types of gifts."

Shedeur Sanders rumors: Many NFL scouts don't have a first-round grade on 2025 quarterback prospect

But are they telling the truth?

www.cbssports.com

"I've already talked to people within the league who don't have anything close to a first-round grade on the guy," Pelissero said about Sanders on Friday's episode of the Rich Eisen Show.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10149480-nfl-rumors-shedeur-sanders-didnt-get-anything-close-to-r1-grade-from-some-scouts

and so on and so forth. if you listened to what actual teams were saying during draft season and not what peter schrager wants to write up for clicks, it was pretty clear that there was nothing close to a first-round consensus on sanders and if that's what he heard coming out of school then he received some very bad advice.

 

[P-Tizzle]

"guys who have intel with front offices" are not nfl team scouting departments, and those teams' grades are what players take into account when deciding to enter the nfl draft.

"A team source said the Browns believed many teams had a Day 2 grade on Sanders"

'Prove all the people who passed on you wrong': Inside the Browns' decision to draft Shedeur Sanders

Cleveland didn't have Sanders graded as an elite prospect, but saw him as a steal once he slid to Day 3.

www.espn.com

"I'm having a really hard time finding coaches or scouts who believe Sanders is a first-round talent," Albert Breer wrote this week. "This, by the way, is separate from any issue anyone has with his personality. Those questions exist, but lots of teams have made exceptions in that department in the past to take on guys with special talents. The problem seems to be that too many folks ... think Sanders [lacks] those types of gifts."

Shedeur Sanders rumors: Many NFL scouts don't have a first-round grade on 2025 quarterback prospect

But are they telling the truth?

www.cbssports.com

"I've already talked to people within the league who don't have anything close to a first-round grade on the guy," Pelissero said about Sanders on Friday's episode of the Rich Eisen Show.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10149480-nfl-rumors-shedeur-sanders-didnt-get-anything-close-to-r1-grade-from-some-scouts

and so on and so forth. if you listened to what actual teams were saying during draft season and not what peter schrager wants to write up for clicks, it was pretty clear that there was nothing close to a first-round consensus on sanders and if that's what he heard coming out of school then he received some very bad advice.

Brother I’m not saying every **** team had a first round grade on Sanders. But he certainly had a first round grade on him. I hope you come to terms with that lol

 

[flips]

UT is in Knoxville, not Nashville

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Gotta love modern technology. Where would we be without the option to extend a trip by an hour and 40 minutes while crossing 3 or 4 statelines?

 

[JackMcClinton89]

This is legitimately one of the worst nearly 20 page threads on this site (a high bar). There is no reason to think Simpson will come to UM as he has no connections to the school, has not expressed any interest, and is not even in the transfer portal. Beck had the GF connection and was from Florida. We might as well start a thread saying we should get Arch, or Sayin.

 

[P-Tizzle]

This is legitimately one of the worst nearly 20 page threads on this site (a high bar). There is no reason to think Simpson will come to UM as he has no connections to the school, has not expressed any interest, and is not even in the transfer portal. Beck had the GF connection and was from Florida. We might as well start a thread saying we should get Arch, or Sayin.

man, this **** was fun, what you talking about.

 

[Calinative]

3 teams say they had first-round grade on QB Shedeur Sanders, AP sources say | FOX Sports

Two general managers and one head coach were surprised Shedeur Sanders wasn’t selected Thursday night because their teams had first-round grades on him, they told The Associated Press

www.foxsports.com

apparently some teams did have him as a first round grade.

Ok. Thats better. Still wouldn’t make him a clear 1st round grade by the people who give undergrads their grades to help them decide to enter or not - which is often more conservative - and directly backed by nfl clubs trying to help them decide.

People like to think Shedeur was some elite prospect and just got the short end of the stick due to the media cancer/character evaluation stufff. It’s just not the case. He wasn’t a clear first. The only reason he was mocked to go in the 1st was because the draft class was viewed as pretty weak. If Shough wasn’t a grandpa already, he’d have been above him on everyone’s board. Cam was clear #1. Dart imo was clearly above him too. Now should Shedeur have been like a 3rd? Sure. But he wasn’t not a 1st. I don’t even think he’d be a 1st this yr tbh and this class is dog****

 

[P-Tizzle]

Ok. Thats better. Still wouldn’t make him a clear 1st round grade by the people who give undergrads their grades to help them decide to enter or not - which is often more conservative - and directly backed by nfl clubs trying to help them decide.

People like to think Shedeur was some elite prospect and just got the short end of the stick due to the media cancer/character evaluation stufff. It’s just not the case. He wasn’t a clear first. The only reason he was mocked to go in the 1st was because the draft class was viewed as pretty weak. If Shough wasn’t a grandpa already, he’d have been above him on everyone’s board. Cam was clear #1. Dart imo was clearly above him too. Now should Shedeur have been like a 3rd? Sure. But he wasn’t not a 1st. I don’t even think he’d be a 1st this yr tbh and this class is dog****

I apologize. I should have known right when you first criticized my take, that although I brought evidence of teams claiming he had a first round grade, that I was wrong, because, you are always right, and you know everything. Again, I'm stunned why you don't have a job with some front office of a college or pro team. They are surely missing out on your expertise. But hey CIS is better for it

 

[Calinative]

I apologize. I should have known right when you first criticized my take, that although I brought evidence of teams claiming he had a first round grade, that I was wrong, because, you are always right, and you know everything. Again, I'm stunned why you don't have a job with some front office of a college or pro team. They are surely missing out on your expertise. But hey CIS is better for it

You’re welcome. I’ll be here next time you feel froggy or wanna learn something