TVD Quote

[grover]

Agree. He craps the bed in big moments. You , myself and @k9cane always speak the same language , it’s called South Korean.

Not arguing his weaknesses. I'd still try to keep him because of TVD. Lashlee's never going to be a big-time HC. He's too limited a recruiter... But if he's going to go no matter what, then we better not blow everything up again like we did from Richt to Enos to Lashlee. Need a BSD OC who knows how to build on what's there.

 

[NorthEastCane]

The same excuses we make for the games we lost are the excuses the opposing fan bases are making in the games we’ve won

It’s just who we are

I swear every week people go in to the games expecting it to suddenly change and throw unreal tantrums when it doesn’t happen

It’s. Not. Changing.

And that's the reason that Manny must go even if he wins out. All we can expect is more of the same.

This recruiting class is shot. So will next year's, does anyone really believe that recruits can't see through this.

 

[5Rings&an Asterisk]

Turnovers kept the game close. Before the season ends we will put together a 600 yard game and get the W.

I'd l ove 600 yards this weekend along with another 50 burger.

 

[jsy]

I’ll just add you to the list that don’t understand the point. Keep obsessing over the fumbles and avoiding my point of we find new ways to look sloppy and look like an undisciplined team. We Invent new ways to kill ourselves with fundamental issues.

Btw using Bama and Uga as examples proves you’ll fit in here perfectly. Because they scream badly coached teams and undisciplined Lol. Miami , Bama and Uga are pretty much identical. Very fundamentally sound teams.

Exactly
They need to look at the middle of the field wide open every game and we still can’t tackle
And the constant special teams mistakes
We play like a poorly coached team
We suck at the fundamentals the hallmark of a well coached team

 

[k9cane]

When you dont tackle in practice, you get a defense who cant tackle and an offense that fumbles when they are tackled

you ultimately play the way you practice. That has never changed...and never will

 

[BigCaneAl]

Preach brotha.

If our guys made great plays hacking at the ball it would be “ what a play, good coaching teaches that and get the chain bro”. If GT tech does it it’s a giveaway and why the game was close. These people play both sides of the coin lol. I’m the guy saying we are what we are regardless.

Yeah, GT was just better at it than anyone else on our schedule….or maybe there is randomness that you can’t control. Georgia tech had recovered 6 fumbles in the previous 8 games. I’m going to go with randomness, but that implies we were actually the better team and that’s not the narrative we are pushing here I guess.

 

[k9cane]

Sure, you can blame coaching for those fumbles yesterday. Why not?
Especially when you're getting ready to play a team that is well known for stripping the football. They're at the top of the list in the country over the past few years for fumble recoveries. That doesn't happen by accident.

We didn't look like a team that knew this when the game started We just didn't look like a team that was coached to protect the ball until it was 3 fumbles too late. Unfortunatey, we looked unprepared once again!

Let's face it fam. Our team shows up to play every week with superior talent and is consistently unprepared. Which is why we end up in dog fights with 3-5 teams. That's on the coaches. That's all on the coaches!

there is a correlation to well-coached teams and those who dont turn the ball over. Yeah, its on the players, but coaching absolutely matters with these things and the constant messaging of protecting the football.There's a reason why it's usually the bad teams that lay the ball on the ground, or commit a bunch of stupid penalties

But honestly, my biggest issue with Diaz on SAturday was how they are (over)using Knighton. I just dont get why we aren't rotating in Brown/Franklin more, especially with the short yardage stuff

 

[k9cane]

The post game win expectancy for UM has to be near or above 90%. Their YPP was 4.76, ours was 7. The defense again held a high output offense from scoring on their critical final possession, for the 3rd week in a row.

We held them to their second lowest yardage total of the season (Clemson being first). The 23 points and 329 yards should’ve resulted in a high 30s-low 40s score.

Instead we had 3 TOs and 2 4th down failures and a missed FG, all of which made the outcome a heck of a lot closer than the game truly was. This was a 10-14 point victory if both teams simply perform as the stats indicated.

That is not to say we didn’t almost lose the game, or that any of the mistakes were excusable, or to not spread blame around. This still ended up feeling like a typical Manny game, where we can’t get out of our own way and dominate an inferior opponent, 100% his legacy. It’s just that in this case we actually did end up statistically dominating them, which was nice.

Inday, its interesting, but as you see Bama actually scuffle with a few teams, I keep going back to how Miami was just blown out from the very beginning. I just cant get over that..

 

[k9cane]

It’s awareness. The lack of awareness is astounding. You name it and we play like we’ve never been there before in a lot of situations. It’s all because of Manny and his lack of experience and focus on little things. You catch a ball or you are in the open field, expect someone to come from behind and rip the ball. Quit being so quick to celebrate and making a show after a tackle to where it could be a penalty etc. Nesta could have easily got one yesterday and I see it every week too. It’s little things. These guys need to be in the I expect to make these plays and go about their business and get back to the huddle and do it again. No, we need to grand stand bc we are so swaggy at 5-4.

Miz, its interesting, but Ive read where Belichick will really harp on his players not reaching the ball out at the goal line going into the end zone unless it's a 4th down. That's a huge thing with him because he knows what you give up if you fumble it.

In other games, where ball-control and time of possession is a central focus in their game plan -- he really sends home the message on how basically everyone is instructed to just run straight, get your yards, and NEVER go out of bounds. They want that clock running. They believe at times that the clock running is more vital then a few extra yards

A couple of weeks ago vs the Chargers, all of his ball carriers when near the sideline would just slide down inbounds, as they were in a four minute offense

Fumbles are ultimately on the players. But coaches drill and drive home certain messages as it relates to ball security

 

[k9cane]

I’ll just add you to the list that don’t understand the point. Keep obsessing over the fumbles and avoiding my point of we find new ways to look sloppy and look like an undisciplined team. We Invent new ways to kill ourselves with fundamental issues.

Btw using Bama and Uga as examples proves you’ll fit in here perfectly. Because they scream badly coached teams and undisciplined Lol. Miami , Bama and Uga are pretty much identical. Very fundamentally sound teams.

Cribby, its interesting, but Quadtrine Hill told me that with Don Soldinger, the ONLY thing he really harped on over and over again was (and he would say this in his best Sol impersonation, which was hilarious) -- "HEY BRO, JUST GO STRAIGHT, GET OUR 4 YARDS AND DONT EVER FUMBLE, OK? THATS IT. YOU DO THAT AND WERE FINE."

That, along with pass pro, was the other main focus with him

You laid the ball on the ground, you had to face him on the sideline. And since he had a real say in the RB rotation back then(and we had a loaded depth chart) trust me, guys got the message loud and clear.

I admit, yesterday was a bit of an anomoly, but after the first fumble, that whole team should've made ball security a priority. But again, I dont think we have a coach who really drives home a disciplined message

 

[k9cane]

Let's see.
130 out of 130 in red zone defense
119 out of 130 in turnover margin
95 out of 130 on penalties per game
95 out of 130 on scoring defense
91 out of 130 on 3rd down defense
84 out of 130 on total defense
57 out of 130 on 3rd touchdown conversions
32 out of 130 on scoring offense
24 out of 130 on points scored

Not exactly demanding excellence.

yeah, but c'mon Pentagon, I mean... outside of all THAT....

 

[k9cane]

You’re a boxing man. You know when bad matchups make lopsided fights and know some people are just tough for certain fighters

College is kinda the same way

You just expect weird **** to happen with all the different types of teams you play from week to week and you see it across the country

But that’s just not what we have at Miami

We are Mike Tyson before he fought Buster Douglas week to week (it’s a reach but I went down a path here)

Miami reminds me of an ultra talented fighter, that just doesnt train hard enough, isnt' disciplined enough in-between fights, has too cut too much weight prior to the weigh-ins, etc, and then wonders why he gets hit too much in fights and squeaks by with split decisions with far inferior fighters

This is no accident how we win or lose games..

 

[IndayArtHauz]

Inday, its interesting, but as you see Bama actually scuffle with a few teams, I keep going back to how Miami was just blown out from the very beginning. I just cant get over that..

Oh yeah, k9, agree. I am in no way defending this staff or think they should be retained.

I’m just saying the GT margin of victory should have been bigger because the stats say so, not just because “we’re more talented.” The 3-5 turnovers (depending if you count the 4th down failures) and the fumble return made it look closer than it was.

Better hope we don’t do that again this week or we’ll lose.

 

[k9cane]

Oh yeah, k9, agree. I am in no way defending this staff or think they should be retained.

I’m just saying the GT margin of victory should have been bigger because the stats say so, not just because “we’re more talented.” The 3-5 turnovers (depending if you count the 4th down failures) and the fumble return made it look closer than it was.

Better hope we don’t do that again this week or we’ll lose.

Its funny, but as Im watching the last few minutes of Bama-LSU, I was thinking, if the Tiger had TVD, they win this game. It's really amazing how one player at a certain position can change things

My view is that fumbles will happen, I get it, but to me, what's more damning is that Diaz's defense and specifically his LB's are soooo bad. Thats squarely on him

 

[insaneinthecane]

Agree. I noticed it a few times after the fumbles. They didn't try to hide it.

With that said. Do you think we looked like team that was prepared for those stripping tactics? Sure didn't look that way to me in the 1st Qtr. We obviously made some adjustments after the 3 fumbles because I don't recall fumbling again and GT didn't change their tactics. It's coaching fam and our coaches aren't very good at it.
We just went into yet another game not prepared and enfed up in a dog fight with another ****tty team because of it. This coaching staph is out of excuses. The blaming the players excuse is about as annoying as Al Golden talking to the team about McDonald's chees

Look , fumbles happen but this isn't really about fumbles. It's about not having your team prepared to play a team that thrives on recovering fumbles.

there is a correlation to well-coached teams and those who dont turn the ball over. Yeah, its on the players, but coaching absolutely matters with these things and the constant messaging of protecting the football.There's a reason why it's usually the bad teams that lay the ball on the ground, or commit a bunch of stupid penalties

But honestly, my biggest issue with Diaz on SAturday was how they are (over)using Knighton. I just dont get why we aren't rotating in Brown/Franklin more, especially with the short yardage stuff

Agreed. 4 looked like he was getting banged up quite a bit out there. If the Manny and lash show keep giving him the ball 30 times a game, the kid is bound to get hurt.

I could see giving the kid the ball 30 plus times if this was a playoff type of game. But to run him like that vs a 3-5 GT team mid season, looked more like a coach trying to save his job more than anything.

 

[TpaBayFlyFisher]

In my opinion the 3 fumbles were all similar. Our guys were having a successful play and focused on making a big splash, getting to the end zone, instead of continuing but with ball security. That is on the players, but good coaching preaches ball security from day one.

 

[KANE]

Ignorance is bliss. You can tell who’s never played or coached. Former players are saying the same thing but whatever. People can downvote or call it a bad take. People like yourself , @Liberty City El, @DMoney and others know the truth.

Facts, and I can tell you that everything (good or bad) that happens on a football field, is either coached, or allowed. Allowed in this case, meaning that a coach continues to play a kid EVEN THOUGH, the kid keeps ******** up time after time. We have seen this a lot under this current staff. How long did it take to start playing the younger kids? Manny has enabled a lot of **** we see on Saturday. What Cribby is saying here is when you don't hold kids accountable for ***** ups, the ***** ups keep happening. And he's right. Everything is not Manny's fault, but the atmosphere and culture points directly at him. He's the CEO, so everything that happens on his watch, finds its way to his feet.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

The post game win expectancy for UM has to be near or above 90%. Their YPP was 4.76, ours was 7. The defense again held a high output offense from scoring on their critical final possession, for the 3rd week in a row.

We held them to their second lowest yardage total of the season (Clemson being first). The 23 points and 329 yards should’ve resulted in a high 30s-low 40s score.

Instead we had 3 TOs and 2 4th down failures and a missed FG, all of which made the outcome a heck of a lot closer than the game truly was. This was a 10-14 point victory if both teams simply perform as the stats indicated.

That is not to say we didn’t almost lose the game, or that any of the mistakes were excusable, or to not spread blame around. This still ended up feeling like a typical Manny game, where we can’t get out of our own way and dominate an inferior opponent, 100% his legacy. It’s just that in this case we actually did end up statistically dominating them, which was nice.

Connelly had it at 99.0% and a projected margin of 14.

So yeah, that was a beating and TVD was 100.0% correct. The game should have NEVER been that close. Hold onto the football, make a FG, and don't let them run back a 2 point conversion (you know, ALL things you can easily control) and we win by 2 TDs. Very good game overall by the kids and staff. Hopefully the turnover bug is put under the sole of our shoe for a week. If we don't turn it over in Tally, I think we win the game rather easily.

 

[MizCane]

We have 2 DE’s from last year starting as rookies in the NFL making plays. Same guys we’re on the team last year that gave up infinity yards to UNC. Just keep that in mind when you have any type of idea on where these young talented players will be in a year or 2 with Miami. We will wonder how we never won at least the coastal while they all make NFL rosters. There are so many signs that Diaz should not be the HC of Miami but I digress.

 

[ssvir]

We have 2 DE’s from last year starting as rookies in the NFL making plays. Same guys we’re on the team last year that gave up infinity yards to UNC. Just keep that in mind when you have any type of idea on where these young talented players will be in a year or 2 with Miami. We will wonder how we never won at least the coastal while they all make NFL rosters. There are so many signs that Diaz should not be the HC of Miami but I digress.

You did the opposite of digress champ.