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Trying to understand offensive schemes…

WanderFranco said:
All? Did you just ask why “they all” turned things around so quickly? Look at your chart again.

One thing you conveniently left out is the 20 year period before year 1. Many of those programs were in solid shape.
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Except for 3 they all win 9 games by year two. 27 names on that list. 12 inherited teams with 6 or fewer wins. Look closer. You see championship coaches turn things around quickly.
 
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I don't care what kind of player you are, if your in a bad scheme fit you ain't gonna do ****. Case 1 Mark D. Them boys had good talent. Year 1 in Manny's defense them boys was ballin'! We know what happened the next year
 
Rellyrell said:
No one said anything about players; that’s been ur reasoning. Lol

Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, since u brought up players:

So what’s Louisville’s excuse this season?
What has Washington’s excuse been?
What was Miami’s excuse under Richt?

Feller, I can give u a whole slew of successful coaches in year 1 and 2 w the same players of the previous failed regimes. Nevertheless, I’ve been VERY CONSISTENT that a coach should see absolute improvements by year 3. In year 3, Miami will be completely rid of Diaz’s players. The entire roster will be Mario’s. So there should be no excuse, if it’s the players, that we wouldn’t be a 10+ win team. Norvell achieved it, & now Sark.

So let’s see, & that’s what we all should expect.
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Louisville and Richt won absolutely nothing. Not sure why they’re listed. Washington didn’t need an overhaul from 20 years of failure. But since it’s all coaching, please don’t get mad if I point out what Washington does without a stable of elite players. No steps back, right? It’s coaching.
 
WanderFranco said:
Louisville and Richt won absolutely nothing. Not sure why they’re listed. Washington didn’t need an overhaul from 20 years of failure. But since it’s all coaching, please don’t get mad if I point out what Washington does without a stable of elite players. No steps back, right? It’s coaching.
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I want u to go look in the mirror & argue w/ urself. See if it makes sense.
 
There’s a lot of teams in NCAA football

If it was as simple as running the same scheme wouldn’t everyone look like that?

I think we just kinda stink
 
WanderFranco said:
Louisville and Richt won absolutely nothing. Not sure why they’re listed. Washington didn’t need an overhaul from 20 years of failure. But since it’s all coaching, please don’t get mad if I point out what Washington does without a stable of elite players. No steps back, right? It’s coaching.
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Up until Petersen took over Washington was terrible for over a decade including having an 0-12 and 1-10 season and then took another dive after he left,
 
Rellyrell said:
I want u to go look in the mirror & argue w/ urself. See if it makes sense.
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Another nothing response. You can’t think of anything.

It’s like when we were told last year that improvement doesn’t take time, “just look at Lincoln Riley”. This year we don’t hear too much about Lincoln Riley.
 
WanderFranco said:
And you never have any intelligent response. Memes and GIFs.
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🥷🏿 please.. I've destroyed every point and counter deflection you've used on here. You wouldn't know an "intelligent" response if your mother fed it to you from her tips.

All you do is give us the same thing every a*sholes got, "excuses ". Excuses about why other coaches ARE and Mario AINT.

#DeflectionFranco


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razrcane said:
Up until Petersen took over Washington was terrible for over a decade including having an 0-12 and 1-10 season and then took another dive after he left,
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The gap between Peterson’s rock solid program and DeBoer’s success was two years.
 
Canezum5 said:
🥷🏿 please.. I've destroyed every point and counter deflection you've used on here. You wouldn't know an "intelligent" response if your mother fed it to you from her tips.

All you do is give us the same thing every a*sholes got, "excuses ". Excuses about why other coaches ARE and Mario AINT.

#DeflectionFranco


season 5 episode 7 GIF by Workaholics
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Here’s another one.

I get the memes and GIFs when I ask a simple question like, if Sarkisian is a genius and we need someone like him, why was he so mid for his first nine years?

You people react to shiny objects.
 
razrcane said:
What I’m saying is coaching (Petersen) played a huge part and when they got Lake it showed how much coaching really matters. Petersen took a 7-6 team and had double digit wins his first 3 years.
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Oh no question. We just don’t need to claim that DeBoer needed to start from the bottom. There has been a pretty strong foundation at UW.
 
Gocanes1990 said:
Honest question for better football minds than mine… @Memnon @JayCane20 @LuCane @Cribby and others.

Why can’t we look at UW, Texas, Oregons schemes and apply them to Miami. I’d argue they are physical at the line of scrimmage, good running teams with explosive elements and good TE use. Why can’t we just take those schemes and apply them to our personnel and offense?

Thanks in advance… an aspiring OC
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What are you saying? You don’t like the offense The U applies? We run, run, run, our TEs do an amazing job blocking and our screens are better than any all the other college teams in SF! Give The U some credit!
 
Bender said:
No, its not. To successfully execute a play, you have to practice it to the point where you can consistently execute it in practice against one look. And then you change looks. And then you practice again.

It's not NCAA Football, where you can just randomly select the Spread Option playbook and run Read Option and Motion WR Option and all that stuff all game. That doesn't work.

The reason why Baylor ran over UNC all these years ago was because they ran the same concepts in blocking out of different formations. They didn't run 25 different plays, but they ran the same play out of six different formations. And to be able to consistenly run that, you have to consistenly execute it.

I get the notion of stealing plays, but you can't install a play during the week and expect it to work perfectly. Executing a play takes a lot of practice. Imagine you run a play in practice, works perfectly all the time. You go into the game and you want to run that play. The defense gives you a look that neither the QB nor the O-Line has seen before in practice. That immediately slows down the whole process and build up of that play because no one is sure if that play works and where the ball has to go.
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Thank you sir. It’s not about being cutting edge , it’s about creativity , motioning , flexing , shifting and putting pressures on defenders eyes. Eye manipulation is the key to offensive football in 2023. Making kids that don’t practice near the hours they used to stay disciplined with eyes / assignments. Liining up in a formation and running Pa off a previous run action is a very simple wrinkle. The best coaches and play callers are always adjusting and staying a step ahead of what film showed the previous week. The last two years at UM is as predictable with some of the least amount of creativity you’ll see in todays Cfb.

In the middle of the year it was just straight up runs or drop backs letting our injured statue Qb stand there like a sitting duck. The last two games was much better.
 
IamaCane4Life said:
What are you saying? You don’t like the offense The U applies? We run, run, run, our TEs do an amazing job blocking and our screens are better than any all the other college teams in SF! Give The U some credit!
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Except that we throw it more than some playoff teams. But the 1st Amendment gives you the right to post dumb things.
 
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Cribby said:
Thank you sir. It’s not about being cutting edge , it’s about creativity , motioning , flexing , shifting and putting pressures on defenders eyes. Eye manipulation is the key to offensive football in 2023. Making kids that don’t practice near the hours they used to stay disciplined with eyes / assignments. Liining up in a formation and running Pa off a previous run action is a very simple wrinkle. The best coaches and play callers are always adjusting and staying a step ahead of what film showed the previous week. The last two years at UM is as predictable with some of the least amount of creativity you’ll see in todays Cfb.

In the middle of the year it was just straight up runs or drop backs letting our injured statue Qb stand there like a sitting duck. The last two games was much better.
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I still don't think there was an explanation or hint of WHY?...
(I know you asked)

JC
 
WanderFranco said:
Another nothing response. You can’t think of anything.

It’s like when we were told last year that improvement doesn’t take time, “just look at Lincoln Riley”. This year we don’t hear too much about Lincoln Riley.
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What amazes me is that u bring up **** that has literally nothing to do w/ what u originally said ALL THE TIME. This is what u do after what u post gets refuted. U then bring up **** w/ the original point. So let me help u out, feller;

This is what u said:

“Agreed. Texas isn't running some kind of new-age air raid stuff out there. They have a great line which results in a great running game and a lot of time for a really smart QB to find his receiver.

O-Line + smart QB = a lot of wins”

After everyone responded, in kind, that what we run vs. TX are totally different, u then started bringing up a slew of bull **** going all over the place, adding conjecture to muddy up the board.

So when u say I’m adding “nothing”, I guess it’s b/c I’m responding to nothing; hence, as an unlicensed therapist, I recommend u look in the mirror and argue w/ urself to see if it makes sense. Btw, that was free advice on the house.
 
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