Trevill Holcy Decommits from Miami

[JHallCanes]

Can't believe this news is drumming up this much emotion. Good grief.

Who gives a ****?

 

[Fountain of Canes]

didnt most not want this kid??? why is there an issue

THIS^^^^ Kid was Above Average but not Great. We are looking for Elite Players to get us back in the running. Kid is ranked #23 in all of Central Florida so he is good in that aspect. We may hear his name later on if he gets the right coaching but we are trying to win now.

 

[Canes2082]

Just out of curiosity isn't Ice the liaison between the university and high schools??

 

[Ohio_Cane]

Just out of curiosity isn't Ice the liaison between the university and high schools??

He wasn't when Holcy got his "offer".

 

[Canes2082]

Just out of curiosity isn't Ice the liaison between the university and high schools??

He wasn't when Holcy got his "offer".

You sure? Because for all we know he never had an offer.

My question is if there was a miscommunication between the staff and Holcy coach shouldn't Ice have cleared that up?

Don't take that as me bashing Ice or the staff. From what I read when he called coach Scott to commit Scott immediately said you need to call coach Golden

 

[dk72]

Nothing at all against the kid...he handled it like a man and I wish him the best

I do, however, find it pretty funny that all the Don Bailey Jr wannabe cheerleaders came out da woodwerks the other day arguing with those of us who said this kid was a questionable take from a talent perspective.

The influx of garbage posters on this board is disturbing.

So the "Don Bailey Jrs." are the problem? Not those who condemned the staff for the take when he actually wasn't a take? Ranting about another Golden special when he wasn't.

Makes sense.

Actually....the REAL problem is Golden and his band of merry incompetent coordinators.

But on THIS board...yes, these blind apologist who do nothing but defend the current regime no matter how bad the results are getting out of control. For those of us that migrated from Grassy we saw the same thing during Randy and Coker's tenures.

Here's a novel idea...how about rooting for the PROGRAM. Better yet...what's BEST FOR THE PROGRAM. Even better yet.....when you see something or someone who is doing HARM to the program...you call it like you see it instead of turning a blind eye to the problem and continuously stating that the current regime is always in the right.

Questioning the status quo apparently makes you a non Canes fan .....I'd actually argue the opposite.

Funny how one-sided your rant is, while ignoring the many "fans" who continually invent any reason to get upset, often when there's nothing to get upset about. A kid decommitting or possibly not even having a committable offer suddenly becomes proof that the staff has no idea what they are doing. Sorry, but that's complete nonsense.

they have done this every recruiting class, that stinks of miscommunication and not knowing whats going on in the situation. No possible way akid can just said im committing to a school, without some sort of inclination of "interest" or "verbal.
Just call it how u see it man

Bull****. They have not done this any more than any other program. Again, people like you just take any tiny thing and run with it to pretend it's something more. You may "call it the way you see it" but the way you see it is any possible way that you can attack the staff. That you say there's no way the kid would claim to commit without having been given a verbal is just plain stupid. If the staff indicated an interest, that is not the same as an offer. It seems quite likely that the staff expressed interest, he took it as an offer, then when he actually called Golden or someone else it was explained to him that they are interested in him as a TE, but he wanted to be a WR.

 

[Travis Bickle]

If we're at an age of offer-any-****-kid-early-or-suffer-the-consequences, then this is just a natural byproduct of that. And what gets me is that posters are mad we offer early and kid commits. And then posters get mad when finding out offer wasn't real and kid was left hanging. Seems to me the kid himself is taking this much better than most on here.

 

[252cane]

No disrespect to the kid but **** him. At wr they still have ridley, pete, martin, and durante on the board and at te clarington. If we get ridley, pete, clarington and 1 more wr i think they are set for this class.

 

[DiegoCane]

these dudes always push guys they think are plan C players to commit. then they actually do

^^^^^^^^ bada bing bada boom.

Worse part about it...is they do it EARLY in the recruiting game. Dennis Turner last yr, Edoard...like they dont know how to just recruit or slow play a kid.

Just like Demetrius Jackson......oh wait that turned out pretty good.

This happens everywhere in the nation. I guess FSU sucks at it too since they dropped 3 or 4 kids last year at the end including CJ Worten.

I'm critical of the staff but some people can't even be objective any more.

Its different when you "drop" a kid....later on where needs may apply or you win a mnc and some big dogs want in.....but we didnt even "drop" kid in this situation, kid didnt even have a **** offer and was committed.
Turner had an offer, they play Alin Edoard last yr also...major miscommunication there. I'm not objective when it comes to this any more ...because it happens EVERY recruiting class..guys "unsure" of offers.

I'm a guy that doesnt have problems with "dropping" kids if its done in a timely fashion and communicated to them that way.....i aint a fan of the....not calling for three to four months and hoping they get the picture approach.

You realize FSU was dropping kids a few days before NSD.

You don't have any idea what happened in this situation, just like Alin. We don't know because we only hear from the kids, they can say and do whatever they want.

What was wrong with the Edourd situation? We dropped him when the new OC favored other QBs and we did it pretty early on.

 

[AllbouttheU]

***** about him committing now ***** about us actually telling him no thanks. Stfu some of y'all just cry about anything.

 

[TomServo]

***** about him committing now ***** about us actually telling him no thanks. Stfu some of y'all just cry about anything.

This game can be played both ways. No big deal the staff reached on a low level recruit, no big deal that the staff did a poor job communicating to him that he didn't have a real offer.

 

[orange&green84]

Bottom line no one knows what happened here. We can speculate and guess all we want.

Blame the kid, the kids coach, blame the staff which is always the popular choice around here

Until Pete or Tito find out what happened for sure its a moot point right now

Move on

That just makes too much sense though. Everyone's speculating on what happened, but doesn't know exactly what happened.

 

[Ohio_Cane]

Just out of curiosity isn't Ice the liaison between the university and high schools??

He wasn't when Holcy got his "offer".

You sure? Because for all we know he never had an offer.

My question is if there was a miscommunication between the staff and Holcy coach shouldn't Ice have cleared that up?

Don't take that as me bashing Ice or the staff. From what I read when he called coach Scott to commit Scott immediately said you need to call coach Golden

He got offered the non-commitable offer on Feb 5th according to 247, so yeah, Ice wasn't hired yet.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Nothing at all against the kid...he handled it like a man and I wish him the best

I do, however, find it pretty funny that all the Don Bailey Jr wannabe cheerleaders came out da woodwerks the other day arguing with those of us who said this kid was a questionable take from a talent perspective.

The influx of garbage posters on this board is disturbing.

The point is if the staff felt he was a take, which apparently they didn't, then yes, I'd take their evaluation over yours any day of the week and twice on Saturdays. They know what they are doing, you...well, not so much.

At that's exactly my ******* point. What the **** has this staff done to earn ANY benefit of the doubt.

This line of thinking is just hilarious to me.

 

[IHATETHISPLACE]

A kid with bad grades, bad test scores, bad attitude that runs a slow 40 and goes to a school Miami rarely recruits was told his commit was not accepted. This is a non issue

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Nothing at all against the kid...he handled it like a man and I wish him the best

I do, however, find it pretty funny that all the Don Bailey Jr wannabe cheerleaders came out da woodwerks the other day arguing with those of us who said this kid was a questionable take from a talent perspective.

The influx of garbage posters on this board is disturbing.

So the "Don Bailey Jrs." are the problem? Not those who condemned the staff for the take when he actually wasn't a take? Ranting about another Golden special when he wasn't.

Makes sense.

Actually....the REAL problem is Golden and his band of merry incompetent coordinators.

But on THIS board...yes, these blind apologist who do nothing but defend the current regime no matter how bad the results are getting out of control. For those of us that migrated from Grassy we saw the same thing during Randy and Coker's tenures.

Here's a novel idea...how about rooting for the PROGRAM. Better yet...what's BEST FOR THE PROGRAM. Even better yet.....when you see something or someone who is doing HARM to the program...you call it like you see it instead of turning a blind eye to the problem and continuously stating that the current regime is always in the right.

Questioning the status quo apparently makes you a non Canes fan .....I'd actually argue the opposite.

doing that gets you called a "Mope" around these parts.
I mean dudes were starving for something so bad after the Coker and Randy years that they've fed into the Golden thing, but me.......i'm a fan of UM, The canes PROGRAM. When i see f'ups i call it like i see it...and thats even when Randy was hc, who was a african american from my Liberty City neighborhood and who i shoud of been a homer to i called out his ****ery from the JUMP.

Golden's a good to solid HC quality imo, but for him being more experienced in that spot he is really not that much different than Randy....he just speaks better and tickles the head honcho's better. Dude still has subpar coaching hires in his camp ala randy....and a bunch of blunders in recruiting along with good wins in battle.
I'm at the point where this year is it....i gave Golden the pass for the previous years..but the excuses, the cloud, that b.s. has to stop now.

Word