Top 5 coaches who would come to Miami

[Cane Dynasty]

Some of you have short memories about NC's problems under Butch. John Blake & his completely unethical recruiting practices (Butch claimed he didn't know), Gio Bernard & company taking gifts, clothes, $$ from agents, trips to Miami for vacations, academic cheating with a tutor who worked for Butch, on and on ad nauseum. UM isn't returning to 5 years of probation. There are some good, younger coaches out there that UM can hire & money will NOT be an issue as by the time this debacle of a coaching staff is shown the door, everyone at UM will be more than ready to move on.

If you've never witnessed a moran blather before this is your chance!

 

[nycane]

butch wants a ring at UM really bad. plus, talent wise he will gets recruits because no one has a better track record of putting talent into the NFL. he was turning UNC into an NFL factory for god's sake. they sucked. Butch wasnt a great game day coach at first but he was also a first time HC and figured it out. Golden had been a HC for a few years.

 

[DMoney]

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Consigliere,
Why are you so opposed to Jeremy Pruitt?

He's an elite DC, he's young and ambitious, and he's the best recruiter in the country. The only knock I see is a lack of head coaching experience. There's validity to that, but plenty of coordinators have become hugely successful coaches. Jimbo is doing just fine up north.

There's a risk with any coach. We focused on guys with HC experience last time, and we ended up interviewing duds. One thing I like about Pruitt is that he knows what it takes. Golden cut his teeth at places like Boston College and Virginia. Pruitt's entire college career has been spent at Alabama, FSU and Georgia. All he knows is Southern savagery and high expectations.

 

[Klamalama]

BUTCH DAVIS

 

[Consigliere]

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Consigliere,
Why are you so opposed to Jeremy Pruitt?

He's an elite DC, he's young and ambitious, and he's the best recruiter in the country. The only knock I see is a lack of head coaching experience. There's validity to that, but plenty of coordinators have become hugely successful coaches. Jimbo is doing just fine up north.

There's a risk with any coach. We focused on guys with HC experience last time, and we ended up interviewing duds. One thing I like about Pruitt is that he knows what it takes. Golden cut his teeth at places like Boston College and Virginia. Pruitt's entire college career has been spent at Alabama, FSU and Georgia. All he knows is Southern savagery and high expectations.

At this state of the program we need a "sure" thing. What that means is no first time HCs where their highest qualification is college coordinator.

I am not concerned with recruiting, I am concerned with landing a "sure" thing. Pruitt deserves a chance, like Morris and Herman deserved a chance, at a non-power conference school.

You shouldn't be concerned with recruiting, we will always be able to recruit. I believe Miami MUST limit the risk with this next hire. Pruitt screams RISK due to his lack of experience.

 

[Consigliere]

butch davis
doc holliday
charlie strong

Wow Doc and Strong, amazing.

 

[duke4heisman]

1. BUTCH DAVIS
2. BUTCH DAVIS
3. BUTCH DAVIS
4. BUTCH DAVIS
5. BUTCH DAVIS

 

[DMoney]

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Consigliere,
Why are you so opposed to Jeremy Pruitt?

He's an elite DC, he's young and ambitious, and he's the best recruiter in the country. The only knock I see is a lack of head coaching experience. There's validity to that, but plenty of coordinators have become hugely successful coaches. Jimbo is doing just fine up north.

There's a risk with any coach. We focused on guys with HC experience last time, and we ended up interviewing duds. One thing I like about Pruitt is that he knows what it takes. Golden cut his teeth at places like Boston College and Virginia. Pruitt's entire college career has been spent at Alabama, FSU and Georgia. All he knows is Southern savagery and high expectations.

At this state of the program we need a "sure" thing. What that means is no first time HCs where their highest qualification is college coordinator.

I am not concerned with recruiting, I am concerned with landing a "sure" thing. Pruitt deserves a chance, like Morris and Herman deserved a chance, at a non-power conference school.

You shouldn't be concerned with recruiting, we will always be able to recruit. I believe Miami MUST limit the risk with this next hire. Pruitt screams RISK due to his lack of experience.

Herman and Morris aren't "sure things." Saban, Meyer and Harbaugh are sure things. Anybody we get will come with risks.

And I am always concerned with recruiting. Why do you think Ole Miss beat Alabama last week? Why did FSU raise the trophy two years ago? The recruiting success preceded the on-field success.

 

[canes1996]

I want Butch as coach. Having said that, I think it's funny that LSU boards are fretting that we poach Orgeron.

 

[FullyERicht]

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Consigliere,
Why are you so opposed to Jeremy Pruitt?

He's an elite DC, he's young and ambitious, and he's the best recruiter in the country. The only knock I see is a lack of head coaching experience. There's validity to that, but plenty of coordinators have become hugely successful coaches. Jimbo is doing just fine up north.

There's a risk with any coach. We focused on guys with HC experience last time, and we ended up interviewing duds. One thing I like about Pruitt is that he knows what it takes. Golden cut his teeth at places like Boston College and Virginia. Pruitt's entire college career has been spent at Alabama, FSU and Georgia. All he knows is Southern savagery and high expectations.

At this state of the program we need a "sure" thing. What that means is no first time HCs where their highest qualification is college coordinator.

I am not concerned with recruiting, I am concerned with landing a "sure" thing. Pruitt deserves a chance, like Morris and Herman deserved a chance, at a non-power conference school.

You shouldn't be concerned with recruiting, we will always be able to recruit. I believe Miami MUST limit the risk with this next hire. Pruitt screams RISK due to his lack of experience.

Herman and Morris aren't "sure things." Saban, Meyer and Harbaugh are sure things. Anybody we get will come with risks.

And I am always concerned with recruiting. Why do you think Ole Miss beat Alabama last week? Why did FSU raise the trophy two years ago? The recruiting success preceded the on-field success.

Was Howard not an elite hire? Here's some facts about turnaround programs:

Bama (Saban) was turned around in year 2, won the title in year 3.

USC (Carroll) was turned around in year 2, won the title in year 3.

Florida (Meyer) turned around in year 2, won title in year 2.

OSU (Meyer) turned around immediately, won the title in year 2.

ND (Kelly) turned is around in year 3, played in NC in year 3.

These represent major brand schools who turned it around extremely quickly with the right hire. They didn't do it by waiting on 4 recruiting classes (a la Jimbo), they did it by coaching the **** outta the players they had, and adding in a few young studs to go with it.

 

[Consigliere]

Herman and Morris aren't "sure things." Saban, Meyer and Harbaugh are sure things. Anybody we get will come with risks.

And I am always concerned with recruiting. Why do you think Ole Miss beat Alabama last week? Why did FSU raise the trophy two years ago? The recruiting success preceded the on-field success.

"Sure" was in quotes. There is no sure thing. We're also not getting those 3 names above, no need to talk about them.

As for Morris, he isn't on my list. He is a guy I would watch and see how he does at SMU. I was only saying he, like Herman, deserved a chance to be an HC.

Herman is on my list, he is doing well at Houston. Already has a nice win too on the road at UL. He is near the top of my list but I want to see how he finishes this season. See a post I had about Fuente and Herman (West End Zone)

As for Pruitt, he has NO HC experience. He is less of a sure thing, he will be learning on the job at Miami.

You misunderstood what I meant about recruiting. I am not concerned with recruiting as much as others. I have watched Chip Kelly turn Oregon into a beast program and he never was an elite recruiter. Patterson at TCU, same thing. Briles as well. Pinkel at Missouri. None of these guys are elite recruiters, they're elite coaches though. I am concerned with finding a guy that is a "sure" thing.

 

[grogz26]

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Consigliere,
Why are you so opposed to Jeremy Pruitt?

He's an elite DC, he's young and ambitious, and he's the best recruiter in the country. The only knock I see is a lack of head coaching experience. There's validity to that, but plenty of coordinators have become hugely successful coaches. Jimbo is doing just fine up north.

There's a risk with any coach. We focused on guys with HC experience last time, and we ended up interviewing duds. One thing I like about Pruitt is that he knows what it takes. Golden cut his teeth at places like Boston College and Virginia. Pruitt's entire college career has been spent at Alabama, FSU and Georgia. All he knows is Southern savagery and high expectations.

AGREE

 

[The Franchise]

Get results and anyone can recruit at Miami. That "recruiter" tag is way overplayed.

Folden was known as one of the best recruiters in the country when he was an assistant. Just like Pruitt. Pruitt might turn out to be a great HC, but what has he done to make anyone think he will?

 

[cowboycane]

I'm with Chise. Anyone we get is a risk, would rather take the risk on an Old Salty Sea Dog that has won as a HC at some level and minimize the downside. If we don't get this one right I don't think there is any coming back from it. Even if it is only 3 years, someone to get us back to winning so that we can hire someone like Pruitt or Morris in 5 years once this place is a destination and not a fixer-upper.

 

[Consigliere]

Get results and anyone can recruit at Miami. That "recruiter" tag is way overplayed.

Folden was known as one of the best recruiters in the country when he was an assistant. Just like Pruitt. Pruitt might turn out to be a great HC, but what has he done to make anyone think he will?

NADA

Why take the risk?

 

[FullyERicht]

Miami is not in the same position now that it was when we hired Jimmy, Dennis, Butch, or Coker.....or even Randy for that matter.

Miami is a dead program. You can hire a guy like Pruitt when you are only a few years removed from a national championship, or when you have been good but not elite.

When your program is in the worst shape it has been in nearly 40 years, you don't hire college coordinators, "recruiters", or division 3 coaches.

You bite the bullet, and admit that you need to invest in the program again, and hire an elite coach.

 

[DMoney]

Pruitt might turn out to be a great HC, but what has he done to make anyone think he will?

Dominate at his job.

His first year as a defensive coordinator, FSU finished 1st in scoring defense and won the national championship. He left, and they dropped to 54th.

He went to Georgia, which ranked 84th in scoring defense. They finished 16th. They also went from 95th in turnover margin to 4th. And as I mentioned, he's a recruiting phenom.

If you're going to limit your search to head coaches, that's fine. But those mid-major guys are just as risky when they jump up a level. We know that better than anyone.

The great, established head coaches like Briles or Patterson are pipe dreams. Herman gives you a nice blend of big-program experience and upside, but he's just one guy.

Who is on your list?

 

[DiegoCane]

Pruitt might turn out to be a great HC, but what has he done to make anyone think he will?

Dominate at his job.

His first year as a defensive coordinator, FSU finished 1st in scoring defense and won the national championship. He left, and they dropped to 54th.

He went to Georgia, which ranked 84th in scoring defense. They finished 16th. They also went from 95th in turnover margin to 4th. And as I mentioned, he's a recruiting phenom.

If you're going to limit your search to head coaches, that's fine. But those mid-major guys are just as risky when they jump up a level. We know that better than anyone.

The great, established head coaches like Briles or Patterson are pipe dreams. Herman gives you a nice blend of big-program experience and upside, but he's just one guy.

Who is on your list?

They were a monster defense when he took over. #2 in total defense in 2012, #3 in total defense in 2013 (under Pruitt).

 

[User-4525]

Another Potato

Consigliere,
Why are you so opposed to Jeremy Pruitt?

He's an elite DC, he's young and ambitious, and he's the best recruiter in the country. The only knock I see is a lack of head coaching experience. There's validity to that, but plenty of coordinators have become hugely successful coaches. Jimbo is doing just fine up north.

There's a risk with any coach. We focused on guys with HC experience last time, and we ended up interviewing duds. One thing I like about Pruitt is that he knows what it takes. Golden cut his teeth at places like Boston College and Virginia. Pruitt's entire college career has been spent at Alabama, FSU and Georgia. All he knows is Southern savagery and high expectations.

At this state of the program we need a "sure" thing. What that means is no first time HCs where their highest qualification is college coordinator.

I am not concerned with recruiting, I am concerned with landing a "sure" thing. Pruitt deserves a chance, like Morris and Herman deserved a chance, at a non-power conference school.

You shouldn't be concerned with recruiting, we will always be able to recruit. I believe Miami MUST limit the risk with this next hire. Pruitt screams RISK due to his lack of experience.

Herman and Morris aren't "sure things." Saban, Meyer and Harbaugh are sure things. Anybody we get will come with risks.

And I am always concerned with recruiting. Why do you think Ole Miss beat Alabama last week? Why did FSU raise the trophy two years ago? The recruiting success preceded the on-field success.

Was Howard not an elite hire? Here's some facts about turnaround programs:

Bama (Saban) was turned around in year 2, won the title in year 3.

USC (Carroll) was turned around in year 2, won the title in year 3.

Florida (Meyer) turned around in year 2, won title in year 2.

OSU (Meyer) turned around immediately, won the title in year 2.

ND (Kelly) turned is around in year 3, played in NC in year 3.

These represent major brand schools who turned it around extremely quickly with the right hire. They didn't do it by waiting on 4 recruiting classes (a la Jimbo), they did it by coaching the **** outta the players they had, and adding in a few young studs to go with it.

Your post has inconsistencies. You state carroll and saban turned it around in year 2 and they had records of 11-2 and 12-2 respectively. Jimbo went 12-2 in year 3 but you say he didn't turn it around until year 4. Jimbo's ten win season (year 1) was also the first since 2003 at fsu. Kelly is a great coach but Jimbo has performed better than Kelly in their respective tenures. Kelly turns it around in year 3 but then goes 17-9 the next two years. Jimbo turned it around and went 13-1 the following year

 

[BigRonShirley]

My top 5 choices and I think they all would come.

1.) Dave Wannstedt
2.) Greg Schiano
3.) Mario Cristobal
4.) Jerry Kill
5.) Rod Chudzinski