To all the MANny's out there...

The 2000 team lost a game they had no business losing. Butch did that throughout his tenure with Miami, and UNC..Even looking back in retrospect. Saban has been at Bama for 10 years..you can count on 1 hand the games that he’s lost that he had no business losing..idk if definitely that 2000 coached Miami team would beat what Saban had last year and dabo have today..or Dabo when he had deshaun..those teams have the advantage at QB without a doubt..but overall that 2000-2002 was the best talent accumulation in the modern day..except at QB. Dorsey was a great leader but nowhere in the same sentence as Tua, Lawrence or deshaun
this is a computer simulation of a game between 2018 Alabama and the 2001 Hurricanes .

2018 Alabama Crimson Tide
vs. 2001 Miami (FL) Hurricanes

Away Team
2001
Miami (FL) Hurricanes
12 - 0 - 0 (1.000)
QBKen Dorsey
RBClinton Portis
RBWillis McGahee
WRAndre Johnson
WREthenic Sands
TEJeremy Shockey

Home Team
2018
Alabama Crimson Tide
14 - 1 - 0 (0.933)
QBTua Tagovailoa
RBDamien Harris
RBNajee Harris
WRJerry Jeudy
WRDevonta Smith
TEIrv Smith Jr.

Final - 11/26/20191st2nd3rd4thTotal
2018 Alabama Crimson Tide903719
2001 Miami (FL) Hurricanes77101034
Scoring Summary

1st Quarter
BAMA 10:15 FG Joseph Bulovas 30 yds.3-0
Mia-Fl 8:49 TD Clinton Portis 29 yd. run (Sievers kick)3-7
BAMA 4:56 FG Joseph Bulovas 40 yds.6-7
BAMA 0:36 FG Joseph Bulovas 49 yds.9-7
2nd Quarter
Mia-Fl 11:23 TD Daryl Jones 4 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)9-14
3rd Quarter
Mia-Fl 10:14 FG Todd Sievers 26 yds.9-17
BAMA 8:26 FG Joseph Bulovas 37 yds.12-17
Mia-Fl 1:03 TD Kevin Beard 54 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)12-24
4th Quarter
Mia-Fl 10:35 TD Ethenic Sands 9 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)12-31
BAMA 6:20 TD Henry Ruggs III 3 yd. pass from Tagovailoa (Bulovas kick)19-31
Mia-Fl 2:14 FG Todd Sievers 22 yds.19-34
 
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this is a computer simulation of a game between 2018 Alabama and the 2001 Hurricanes .

2018 Alabama Crimson Tide
vs. 2001 Miami (FL) Hurricanes

Away Team
2001
Miami (FL) Hurricanes
12 - 0 - 0 (1.000)
QBKen Dorsey
RBClinton Portis
RBWillis McGahee
WRAndre Johnson
WREthenic Sands
TEJeremy Shockey
Home Team



2018
Alabama Crimson Tide
14 - 1 - 0 (0.933)
QBTua Tagovailoa
RBDamien Harris
RBNajee Harris
WRJerry Jeudy
WRDevonta Smith
TEIrv Smith Jr.
Final - 11/26/20191st2nd3rd4thTotal
2018 Alabama Crimson Tide903719
2001 Miami (FL) Hurricanes77101034
Scoring Summary




1st Quarter
BAMA 10:15 FG Joseph Bulovas 30 yds.3-0
Mia-Fl 8:49 TD Clinton Portis 29 yd. run (Sievers kick)3-7
BAMA 4:56 FG Joseph Bulovas 40 yds.6-7
BAMA 0:36 FG Joseph Bulovas 49 yds.9-7
2nd Quarter
Mia-Fl 11:23 TD Daryl Jones 4 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)9-14
3rd Quarter
Mia-Fl 10:14 FG Todd Sievers 26 yds.9-17
BAMA 8:26 FG Joseph Bulovas 37 yds.12-17
Mia-Fl 1:03 TD Kevin Beard 54 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)12-24
4th Quarter
Mia-Fl 10:35 TD Ethenic Sands 9 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)12-31
BAMA 6:20 TD Henry Ruggs III 3 yd. pass from Tagovailoa (Bulovas kick)19-31
Mia-Fl 2:14 FG Todd Sievers 22 yds.19-34

My computer simulation had Miami winning 37 to 12.

My mind simulation had it 45 to 6
 
These are people who saw Butch’s Miami teams in 2000 and 2001 and who rightly realize that those teams were better than any team Dabo or Saban have ever fielded

I watched those teams too. It was a great time when Miami still have the advantage of recruiting South Florida before the internet and cellphones made access easier for everybody. Still wouldn't trade Dabo or Saban for Butch. They've built dynasty's that lasted and are continuing to last. 8 Championships between the two while Butch has zero. Fact is Butch chose to look for the better deal meanwhile Dabo stayed planted at a middle of the pack ACC school and turned it into a monster. Those two coaches will be hall of famers while Butch will be an interview on a 30 for 30 that peiple forget about. When Saban returned to college it's because Alabama was calling. When Butch returned to college the best he could do was UNC.

Stop being delusional.
 
this is a computer simulation of a game between 2018 Alabama and the 2001 Hurricanes .

2018 Alabama Crimson Tide
vs. 2001 Miami (FL) Hurricanes

Away Team
2001
Miami (FL) Hurricanes
12 - 0 - 0 (1.000)
QBKen Dorsey
RBClinton Portis
RBWillis McGahee
WRAndre Johnson
WREthenic Sands
TEJeremy Shockey
Home Team

2018
Alabama Crimson Tide
14 - 1 - 0 (0.933)
QBTua Tagovailoa
RBDamien Harris
RBNajee Harris
WRJerry Jeudy
WRDevonta Smith
TEIrv Smith Jr.
Final - 11/26/20191st2nd3rd4thTotal
2018 Alabama Crimson Tide903719
2001 Miami (FL) Hurricanes77101034
Scoring Summary


1st Quarter
BAMA 10:15 FG Joseph Bulovas 30 yds.3-0
Mia-Fl 8:49 TD Clinton Portis 29 yd. run (Sievers kick)3-7
BAMA 4:56 FG Joseph Bulovas 40 yds.6-7
BAMA 0:36 FG Joseph Bulovas 49 yds.9-7
2nd Quarter
Mia-Fl 11:23 TD Daryl Jones 4 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)9-14
3rd Quarter
Mia-Fl 10:14 FG Todd Sievers 26 yds.9-17
BAMA 8:26 FG Joseph Bulovas 37 yds.12-17
Mia-Fl 1:03 TD Kevin Beard 54 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)12-24
4th Quarter
Mia-Fl 10:35 TD Ethenic Sands 9 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick)12-31
BAMA 6:20 TD Henry Ruggs III 3 yd. pass from Tagovailoa (Bulovas kick)19-31
Mia-Fl 2:14 FG Todd Sievers 22 yds.19-34
lmao ..how many times has that computer simulation been right?? Did it predict what would happen to bama vs Clemson last year? Did it predict Ohio state’s 2015 run after they lost their QB? I think that hypothetical game would be close and could go either way. But usually the team with the better QB wins
 
The 2000 team lost a game they had no business losing. Butch did that throughout his tenure with Miami, and UNC..Even looking back in retrospect. Saban has been at Bama for 10 years..you can count on 1 hand the games that he’s lost that he had no business losing..idk if definitely that 2000 coached Miami team would beat what Saban had last year and dabo have today..or Dabo when he had deshaun..those teams have the advantage at QB without a doubt..but overall that 2000-2002 was the best talent accumulation in the modern day..except at QB. Dorsey was a great leader but nowhere in the same sentence as Tua, Lawrence or deshaun

I can't disagree with anything you've said here.

If Butch had one weakness, it was gameday coaching. But that team had so much more talent (other than QB) I think they were clearly better than any team Clemson or Alabama has ever fielded.

I'm one of the few people on here who would agree with you on Dorsey. I think he was overrated. Forget Tua, Lawrence, or Deshaun.... I think Brad Kaaya was a better UM QB than Ken Dorsey. The difference is the talent around him.
 
I can't disagree with anything you've said here.

If Butch had one weakness, it was gameday coaching. But that team had so much more talent (other than QB) I think they were clearly better than any team Clemson or Alabama has ever fielded.

I'm one of the few people on here who would agree with you on Dorsey. I think he was overrated. Forget Tua, Lawrence, or Deshaun.... I think Brad Kaaya was a better UM QB than Ken Dorsey. The difference is the talent around him.
that were I stand with it..that 2000-2002 stretch was the greatest accumulation of talent. BUT Dorsey could be neutralized abd would t be the best QB on the field. Put that on top of the fact that tho the canes have more talent overall, Clemson or Bama talent across the board would hang. Think the difference would be they dynamics at QB
 
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I watched those teams too. It was a great time when Miami still have the advantage of recruiting South Florida before the internet and cellphones made access easier for everybody. Still wouldn't trade Dabo or Saban for Butch. They've built dynasty's that lasted and are continuing to last. 8 Championships between the two while Butch has zero. Fact is Butch chose to look for the better deal meanwhile Dabo stayed planted at a middle of the pack ACC school and turned it into a monster. Those two coaches will be hall of famers while Butch will be an interview on a 30 for 30 that peiple forget about. When Saban returned to college it's because Alabama was calling. When Butch returned to college the best he could do was UNC.

Stop being delusional.

It's too early to call Clemson a dynasty. Maybe they'll get there, but not yet. Dabo is basically Jimbo Fisher right now.

Alabama is a dynasty, no doubt. Nick Saban is one of the greatest college football coaches ever to live. Probably better than Bear Bryant.

If the BOT would have hired Butch Davis back when they hired Randy Shannon or Al Golden, UM would have another championship by now. He already proved that he was good enough to build one here.

Today, Butch Davis, like Nick Saban, is old and his best is probably behind him. It's too bad our BOT let their incompetence, stinginess, and pride cost the university a chance at greatness.
 
lmao ..how many times has that computer simulation been right?? Did it predict what would happen to bama vs Clemson last year? Did it predict Ohio state’s 2015 run after they lost their QB? I think that hypothetical game would be close and could go either way. But usually the team with the better QB wins
most normal people would read that game simulation and think to themselves that it was fun and interesting and move on without comment. but that isn't you is it ?

in elementary school were you the snot-nosed kid that nobody liked who on Friday afternoon 5 minutes before the final bell dismissing school for the weekend, reminded the teacher that she forgot to assign any homework ?
 
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