Gocanes1990
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Y can’t we marry the best of Gattis / Mario’s scheme and the best of what Lashlee had in the passing game. Makes 0 sense to me
I like Mario and think he will lead us back. again, I dont think hes gonna be stubborn w his offense esp when the man is the ultimate recruiter.We all want it to be 10 but glaring holes on the roster mean it could be 10 or it could be 6. I wouldn't be shocked at either but I expect 8. Mario is here for the long haul. Either the coaching staff adapts to the roster and recruits better or we stay in the same mediocre hole as the last 20 years.
This this this. Love Mario but this a MAJOR red flag of corching and conservatism that isnt even logical (by looking at the odds)Perhaps someone can explain this to me. In the 4th quarter when we had 4th down at the 3 yard line, the HC decided to kick a field goal rather than use that one play to try to score a TD. Apparently, he reasoned that we had a better chance of making that kick and then later scoring a TD AND thereafter making a 2 point conversion from the 2 yard line to tie the game. If you do not trust the team to score in one play from the 3 [earning at least 6 points so that another TD wins the game] how do you play for a tie game by stopping TAM and then scoring on our next possession AND then scoring 2 on one play from the 2? This felt very corch-like to me.
That's been an issue since before Gattis arrived, though. A guy pushed out of OU came here and was our best WR last year and it wasn't close. Harley was a decent WR2 last year, but most of what he did was catch a bubble and YAC it up. Not a single guy from our current WR room was able to ever take hold of that WR3 spot last year, nor did anyone ever even challenge Harley for his spot.Go look at his resume and offenses pre Weiss. Now go look at their offense now. Remember everyone here defending Gattis saying “ his pass game struggled because his qb’s were trash“? Now suddenly our wr’s can‘t block , get separation or catch. Oh and the qb looks like a different guy. Maybe he’s speaking the truth and you just don’t like it. He’s saying what me and others have been saying. I guess we have an agenda too? Most fans speak highly of a quality coach when he leaves , not all of them being happy he’s gone.
Everyone here said Harley was a bum and they couldn’t wait for him to leave pre Lashlee / Likens. Now go look at his stats after the hire. That’s what coaching does. Also blocking by the wr core as a whole was good last year. Rambo had such a big year because Lashlee kept using space to get him in constant 1 v 1’s. RL put constraint pressure on the safeties hitting on the seams. Thats what using space does . We had a bunch of wide open guys last year because of scheme. From Mallory ,Rooster to Arroyo , to Harley to Rambo. Brevin before that. Wiiiiiide open.That's been an issue since before Gattis arrived, though. A guy pushed out of OU came here and was our best WR last year and it wasn't close. Harley was a decent WR2 last year, but most of what he did was catch a bubble and YAC it up. Not a single guy from our current WR room was able to ever take hold of that WR3 spot last year, nor did anyone ever even challenge Harley for his spot.
When X is our best WR and it's not a debate, that does tell you where our WR room stands independent of the scheme.
I'm not a big Gattis fan, but our current WRs were mediocre before he arrived.
I don't get your infatuation with Lashlee. He had different positives but different negatives. We literally swapped out one problem for another. Gattis issue seems a lot more fixable.Lashlee put pressure on the seams with te’s
Why?Gattis issue seems a lot more fixable.
Gattis has Mario and Mirabal coaching the OL which is their strength. RL took Miami from **** near the 100’s in offense to being pretty **** good. I didn’t love him but he constantly schemed guys wide open . I’m not even a huge fan of the guy but it’s facts.I don't get your infatuation with Lashlee. He had different positives but different negatives. We literally swapped out one problem for another. Gattis issue seems a lot more fixable.
I'm not arguing Lashlee didn't have better passing concepts than what Gattis has shown, but even with the scheme we had last year, and the potential better coaching they were receiving under Likens, none of the guys we have currently ever took hold of that WR3 spot and none were ever close to being as good as Rambo or even Harley.Everyone here said Harley was a bum and they couldn’t wait for him to leave pre Lashlee / Likens. Now go look at his stats after the hire. That’s what coaching does. Also blocking by the wr core as a whole was good last year. Rambo had such a big year because Lashlee kept using space to get him in constant 1 v 1’s. Constant pressure on the safeties hitting on the seams. Thats what using space does . We had a bunch of wide open guys last year because of scheme. From Mallory , to Arroyo , to Harley to Rambo.
Sustained drivesWhy?
people need to see what Rambo looked like at OU and why he got benched. if he was that guy last year at OU, he wouldn't have lost his spot there and wouldn't need to transferEveryone here said Harley was a bum and they couldn’t wait for him to leave pre Lashlee / Likens. Now go look at his stats after the hire. That’s what coaching does. Also blocking by the wr core as a whole was good last year. Rambo had such a big year because Lashlee kept using space to get him in constant 1 v 1’s. RL put constraint pressure on the safeties hitting on the seams. Thats what using space does . We had a bunch of wide open guys last year because of scheme. From Mallory ,Rooster to Arroyo , to Harley to Rambo. Brevin before that. Wiiiiiide open.
Mario / Mirabal. That’s happening regardless of who’s the OC. They’re the best in the business.Sustained drives
Successful OL
Positive run game
None of which we experienced regularly last season or the year prior.
So lashlee wouldn’t benefit from mirabal and Mario?Sustained drives
Successful OL
Positive run game
None of which we experienced regularly last season or the year prior.
We weren't good when we tried to play good teams though. We couldn't run the ball. We had same complaints about not utilizing the TE enough. He had more creativity by far but he also had alot more bust than boom. ****** Fraggle could have improved the offense from the Denos era.Gattis has Mario and Mirabal coaching the OL which is their strength. RL took Miami from **** near the 100’s in offense to being pretty **** good. I didn’t love him but he constantly schemed guys wide open .
He dropped everything and was inconsistent as ****. Their fans had moved on. Lashlee / Likens took their trash and made him a 70 + catch 1000 yard guy. That’s what development looks like.people need to see what Rambo looked like at OU and why he got benched. if he was that guy last year at OU, he wouldn't have lost his spot there and wouldn't need to transfer
bingo. somehow people forget that. people think he stepped in here as an absolute stud and carried everyone. nah the OC and the WR coach developed him. he was only here for a single season too and spent the same amount of time w both coaches that the current WR group has spent with GattisHe dropped everything and was inconsistent was inconsistent as ****. Their fans had moved on. Lashlee / Likens took their trash and made him a 70 + catch 1000 yard guy. That’s what development looks like.
Benefit yes, maybe he would have been more creative in the run game. But I can't pretend like he made bad WRs look good. Harley put the work in to get better. Rambo was imported in. No one else excelled in Lashlees scheme. You need good players end of story.So lashlee wouldn’t benefit from mirabal and Mario?
were we good Saturday night? at the end of the day, we did the same scoring wise we did against other big name opponents.We weren't good when we tried to play good teams though. We couldn't run the ball. We had same complaints about not utilizing the TE enough. He had more creativity by far but he also had alot more bust than boom. ****** Fraggle could have improved the offense from the Denos era.
He dropped everything and was inconsistent was inconsistent as ****. Their fans had moved on. Lashlee / Likens took their trash and made him a 70 + catch 1000 yard guy. That’s what development looks like.
What did he make Pope and Wiggins look like?bingo. somehow people forget that. people think he stepped in here as an absolute stud and carried everyone. nah the OC and the WR coach developed him. he was only here for a single season too and spent the same amount of time w both coaches that the current WR group has spent with Gattis