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Time to fire 'the Nanny' (and AD)

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sccane92 said:
This is the most poorly coached team I've ever seen at any level.
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that's the thing, whoever takes this job over(and if it's a real competent coach), he will literally have to start from the foundation up in terms of how we tackle, block, play with leverage/pad level all that stuff because of the way we currently practice, all those things are lost on our players

The things Ive heard are alarming, and it shows up in games

It wouldn't surprise me to see a bunch of our guys actually transfer out because it would be too tough for them
 
k9cane said:
that's the thing, whoever takes this job over(and if it's a real competent coach), he will literally have to start from the foundation up in terms of how we tackle, block, play with leverage/pad level all that stuff because of the way we currently practice, all those things are lost on our players

The things Ive heard are alarming, and it shows up in games

It wouldn't surprise me to see a bunch of our guys actually transfer out because it would be too tough for them
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Any bits to share on that practice mentality? I’m sure can all be deduced but I’m miserable right now b
 
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The things Manny said would be hallmarks of this team during his tenure (tackling, discipline, explosive) are not only missing “hallmark” status, but are actually our WORST characteristics! This, alone, is fireable since you basically asked us to measure success on these metrics. Sorry, done with this for a while. Assuming things will get better on their own is insanity and I’m done taking crazy pills.
 
k9cane said:
A few things. But should we call this 'Mannyball' -- poor, undisciplined, uninspired play, where there is no accountability?

But after today, 'the Nanny' (yes I said what I said) can pack up his Turnover Chain, Touchdown Rings, slip-and-slids and get the **** outta here -- and hopefully take Blake James with him. This experiment was an unmitigated disaster. Time to cut our losses

Mack Brown knew

This is maddening to watch(yet us fools do it every week, lol).

Manny is all smoke, mirrors and turnover jewelry.

Some other things/observations:

- Miami needs to go full blown Air Raid, pass-to-eventually-run. Yes, there will be some limitations, but it's simply the way to go for this unit, which cant create a good push upfront in the run game. King may leave plays on the field, but at least Miami has half a chance with this style of play. Good to see Rambo have a nice day

- Back to King yeah, he might miss some reads, but geez, they put a lot on his shoulders. In essence he has to not only throw but also be the running game with scrambles. At a certain point, we're going to wear him out.

But his NIL business can't be good right now. There is a downside to all this stuff -- an expectation to play well.

- Cam Harris is lucky he didnt play for Don Soldinger with all that hesitating he does before hitting the hole. Quadtrine Harris once said the only advice Solly ever gave him, and what he harped on was : 'Hey bro, just go straight, run hard, and get your 4 yards. OK? Just run straight, and get the four." That was the basis of his coaching when it came to that. Harris needs to just stick his foot in the ground and get north-south and put his head down. He's not nearly elusive enough, or has the feet, to run the way he tries to

- I dont ever want to hear Will Mallory be mentioned as a standout TE. He's an awful blocker, and now he's dropping easy passes. He's soft and one-dimensional as a player. Get Arroyo on the field more. Romello Brinson flashed, good to see. Elijah Roberts got his first substantial playing time as a Hurricane. I want to see the full blown youth movement starting next week

- Ever notice how on our bubble screen game our WR's get pushed back, while on the flip side, our defenses gets killed on similar plays because opposing WR's are so feisty and they fight hard. Again, that's coaching and mentality in play. (of course, we actually had Gurvan Hall literally run away from a ball carrier into a blocker, but that's another story)

- Still not. or ever, doing a good job defensively in terms of gap/lane integrity and control, leveraging plays back inside to fellow defenders and then overall poor tackling to top it off. In short, Mannyball

- Small things that are big. Ive noticed early in the game as MSU ran RPO and waggles, that are defenders didn't really try to even get their hands up and disrupt throws, if not tip them, as they come towards the QB We finally did that at the end of the 3rd with Chantz Williams batting down a pass. Again, UM is not good at the little things consistently enough.

- Anyways, none of this is surprising. I just wonder if our administration(and I know some will get upset by this) even cares about the football program to make a substantive change.

Hope everyone has a great rest of their weekend.
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Very undisciplined team. It’s all coaching.
 
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Ultimately, this **** show falls at the feet of Manny without a doubt. But it’s not like we’ve got a bunch of scrub assistant coaches and that’s the most befuddling thing for me.
 
k9cane said:
Main thing is that we simply dont hit enough. Just too soft on our guys overall. This is a tough game, and you have to let iron sharpen iron

Think of a fighter who goes into a big fight without ever sparring..
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Thanks bro, no doubt.
 
k9cane said:
A few things. But should we call this 'Mannyball' -- poor, undisciplined, uninspired play, where there is no accountability?

But after today, 'the Nanny' (yes I said what I said) can pack up his Turnover Chain, Touchdown Rings, slip-and-slids and get the **** outta here -- and hopefully take Blake James with him. This experiment was an unmitigated disaster. Time to cut our losses

Mack Brown knew

This is maddening to watch(yet us fools do it every week, lol).

Manny is all smoke, mirrors and turnover jewelry.

Some other things/observations:

- Miami needs to go full blown Air Raid, pass-to-eventually-run. Yes, there will be some limitations, but it's simply the way to go for this unit, which cant create a good push upfront in the run game. King may leave plays on the field, but at least Miami has half a chance with this style of play. Good to see Rambo have a nice day

- Back to King yeah, he might miss some reads, but geez, they put a lot on his shoulders. In essence he has to not only throw but also be the running game with scrambles. At a certain point, we're going to wear him out.

But his NIL business can't be good right now. There is a downside to all this stuff -- an expectation to play well.

- Cam Harris is lucky he didnt play for Don Soldinger with all that hesitating he does before hitting the hole. Quadtrine Harris once said the only advice Solly ever gave him, and what he harped on was : 'Hey bro, just go straight, run hard, and get your 4 yards. OK? Just run straight, and get the four." That was the basis of his coaching when it came to that. Harris needs to just stick his foot in the ground and get north-south and put his head down. He's not nearly elusive enough, or has the feet, to run the way he tries to

- I dont ever want to hear Will Mallory be mentioned as a standout TE. He's an awful blocker, and now he's dropping easy passes. He's soft and one-dimensional as a player. Get Arroyo on the field more. Romello Brinson flashed, good to see. Elijah Roberts got his first substantial playing time as a Hurricane. I want to see the full blown youth movement starting next week

- Ever notice how on our bubble screen game our WR's get pushed back, while on the flip side, our defenses gets killed on similar plays because opposing WR's are so feisty and they fight hard. Again, that's coaching and mentality in play. (of course, we actually had Gurvan Hall literally run away from a ball carrier into a blocker, but that's another story)

- Still not. or ever, doing a good job defensively in terms of gap/lane integrity and control, leveraging plays back inside to fellow defenders and then overall poor tackling to top it off. In short, Mannyball

- Small things that are big. Ive noticed early in the game as MSU ran RPO and waggles, that are defenders didn't really try to even get their hands up and disrupt throws, if not tip them, as they come towards the QB We finally did that at the end of the 3rd with Chantz Williams batting down a pass. Again, UM is not good at the little things consistently enough.

- Anyways, none of this is surprising. I just wonder if our administration(and I know some will get upset by this) even cares about the football program to make a substantive change.

Hope everyone has a great rest of their weekend.
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Good post k9

We need air raid cause we don’t have a running game. Every time Cam got the ball he bounced around. At least 5 times he got zero gain when he could have got 3-5. It’s like he’s in quick sand. If we had the mich st RB or healthy Chaney I think the offense would be decent. But with zero running game we are hot doo doo

But we aren’t going to go air raid cause we have crapola on the coaching staff that’s just gonna keep tryin the same ****

Time for a full reboot… from the top of the top on down!
 
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3rd-43 said:
Thanks bro, no doubt.
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3rd, did you happen to see 'A Football Life' on Nick Saban last night?

They showed this one clip where Saban is talking to his team and he said something to the effect: ''Dont get to a point here in practice where you can do something right -- do it to a point where you can never do it wrong."

That the type of standard and attention to detail that is vital

It goes to show you what a coaching mismatch it was a couple of weeks ago

I really think one of the problems that Manny has is that he wants to be liked by the players. Its why he sticks with these upperclassmen who have shown what they are the past few seasons. And he doesnt want to be the jerk that the really great coaches have to be at times

Another thing Im told is that guys who come from big-time programs to UM are actually a bit dismayed by how we approach things overall. They are used to a more stringent way of preparing. That's why this loss today isn't that surprising to me, and why Im not devastated, because I want a change to happen quickly
 
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T-Rob interim HC, Shoop DC and safeties. Hope that T-Rob can somewhat hold the team together and keep recruiting
 
k9cane said:
that's the thing, whoever takes this job over(and if it's a real competent coach), he will literally have to start from the foundation up in terms of how we tackle, block, play with leverage/pad level all that stuff because of the way we currently practice, all those things are lost on our players

The things Ive heard are alarming, and it shows up in games

It wouldn't surprise me to see a bunch of our guys actually transfer out because it would be too tough for them
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This!! Everything you see on Saturday’s for the past 3 years is a result of what goes on during week at practice!
 
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