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Tiered List of Potential DC's

Hoyacane1620 said:
Besides the potential hiring of Mirabal, a source said Cristobal has interest in former UM defensive line coach Clint Hurtt, who now holds the same position with the Seattle Seahawks. Defensive backs coach Travaris Robinson, who has time left on his contract, has a decent chance to be retained, a source said. Incidentally, tight ends coach Stephen Field previously spent one season with Cristobal at Oregon before joining Miami.

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Isn't Clint Hurtt one of the reasons why Turnkey refused to allow Jurich to be hired?

I think there is a better chance of Mario getting Kevin Patrick, but who knows...
 
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Consulting Todd Orlando is how Kirby Smart and Dan Lanning innovated their defense to what it is today - evolving from the traditional Alabama defense of being massive at every position to being able to blitz, cover, and play sideline to sideline all at the same time.

Not sure if he's just had tough luck with personnel at Texas and USC or what - he was a rapid riser in coaching circles as the next great coordinator - hitched himself to Herman for a bit and then just went off a cliff in terms of results and got the axe.

Maybe in a Co-DC role because he's got good ideas and a good scheme. Something has been off at his last 2 stops though. He was good at Houston.
 
Remember we're rich as f now and Mario's contract and history indicate a stable situation.

We should be aiming high. I'm excited to see who we land on. Leonard is supposed to be a rising star but he's "home" too.
 
WhatTheHell said:
Remember we're rich as f now and Mario's contract and history indicate a stable situation.

We should be aiming high. I'm excited to see who we land on. Leonard is supposed to be a rising star but he's "home" too.
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probably. He is buddies with Reed and not for nothing but Wiscy was #1 in the country in total def (ypg) this year.
 
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Gi0logy said:
As we all know, Mario's success largely hinges on who he hires at DC and OC. So here's a tiered list of the DC options that he may potentially explore.

Tier 1 - Mario's Guys: Previously worked for Mario. Very high chance these guys are available.

Todd Orlando (ex-USC DC) - Worked under Mario as his DC back in 2011-2012. Was USC DC this season and wasn't retained. He's jumped around a lot. Would be an underwhelming hire but certainly not the worst option.

Jim Leavitt (SMU DC) - Worked with Mario on Taggart's staff back in Oregon. Currently the SMU DC. Tbd on whether Lashlee retains him. We can do better.

Tim DeRuyter (Oregon DC) - Hired by Mario in 2019 to be Oregon's new DC. Technically still the Oregon DC. He's a Pac 12 lifer and west coast guy. Hopefully we don't even think about this option.

Tier 2 - The Big Name Guys: These are the big names that any program with a vacant DC would love to have but would have to pony up some serious cash. No immediate ties to Mario.

Will Muschamp (Georgia DA)- One of the bigger names that's on the market. Currently a Defensive Analyst at Georgia. Former LSU, Auburn, Texas DC and USCe HC. Hot headed and not easy to work with. But would raise a ton of eyebrows and certainly scare most ACC OCs.

Jim Leonhard (Wisconsin DC) - Everybody wants him. Only Wisconsin can have him. Unless...maybe you make him the highest paid DC? Would be worth EVERY penny.

The Iowa Guys (ISU & Iowa) - Two other big names out of the Big 10 are Heacock (ISU) and Parker (Iowa). Both have spent their entire careers in the midwest. Not as big of names as the other two but their defenses consistently rank among the best year in year out....just not sure their defenses would fit at Miami.

Jim Knowles (Ok State DC) - Previous Duke DC and has turned OK State defense into a monster with limited talent. UF pursuing but Gundy is trying to keep him. Maybe Mario hops into the picture with a big check? Worth it!

Todd Grantham (Unemployed) - Just kidding. **** no.

Tier 3 - The Underrated Guys: - These guys coach at smaller programs or just don't get the same level of respect of some of the above names. No immediate ties to Mario.

Mike Tressel (Cincinnati DC) - Kept Freeman/Fickell's system in place and has done a masterful job this year. Lots of Big10/Ohio guys on this list. Jeeze. Wouldn't be mad about this hire.

Zach Arnett (Miss State DC) - Led a fantastic defense at SDSU and brought that to Miss State. Young and exciting coach. Mike Leach actually had a decent defense. Who woulda thunk it? You could also add Kurt Mattix, current SDSU DC to this list.

Doug Belk (Houston DC) - Fan favorite. Exciting young coach with a mean pass rush and pairs that with solid recruiting. But does he have enough experience? With only 1 year under his belt as playcaller this would be a little risky.

Glenn Schumann (Georgia Co-DC/ILB) - I wasn't really sure where to put him. He doesn't get as much respect as Lanning does since he's Co-DC but there's a chance he takes over for as DC in the case that Lanning gets a HC role. That is unless Muschamp takes the role. Miami could be an opportunity to cut to the front of the line and earn your stripes as a playcaller.

David Reeves (UAB DC) - No one really talks about UAB but Bill Clark's been putting out great defenses for a while. Reeves has been the DC there for quite some time.

Brad Lambert (Purdue DC) - Was at Marshall last year where he led a really strong defense and has carried that success over to Purdue this year.
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My preference is always well-established, proven coaches, so I'd love to see:
1) Jim Knowles (The Big 12 is loaded with high octane offenses and he slowed them all down; seems like aggressive defense without Manny's quirkiness to it)
2) Jim Leonard (if he would leave Wisconsin)
3) Gary Patterson
4) Todd Orlando
5) Shoop (there was no way of trying to fix Manny's defense as an analyst, but he had quite a track record with his own system)
 
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BoxingRobes said:
So...are we fronting a 2M+ check for a DC?

If yes...

Mike Macdonald.
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I know he can sang but he a dc also!


Dat boy good!
 
Gi0logy said:
As we all know, Mario's success largely hinges on who he hires at DC and OC. So here's a tiered list of the DC options that he may potentially explore.

Tier 1 - Mario's Guys: Previously worked for Mario. Very high chance these guys are available.

Todd Orlando (ex-USC DC) - Worked under Mario as his DC back in 2011-2012. Was USC DC this season and wasn't retained. He's jumped around a lot. Would be an underwhelming hire but certainly not the worst option.

Jim Leavitt (SMU DC) - Worked with Mario on Taggart's staff back in Oregon. Currently the SMU DC. Tbd on whether Lashlee retains him. We can do better.

Tim DeRuyter (Oregon DC) - Hired by Mario in 2019 to be Oregon's new DC. Technically still the Oregon DC. He's a Pac 12 lifer and west coast guy. Hopefully we don't even think about this option.

Tier 2 - The Big Name Guys: These are the big names that any program with a vacant DC would love to have but would have to pony up some serious cash. No immediate ties to Mario.

Will Muschamp (Georgia DA)- One of the bigger names that's on the market. Currently a Defensive Analyst at Georgia. Former LSU, Auburn, Texas DC and USCe HC. Hot headed and not easy to work with. But would raise a ton of eyebrows and certainly scare most ACC OCs.

Jim Leonhard (Wisconsin DC) - Everybody wants him. Only Wisconsin can have him. Unless...maybe you make him the highest paid DC? Would be worth EVERY penny.

The Iowa Guys (ISU & Iowa) - Two other big names out of the Big 10 are Heacock (ISU) and Parker (Iowa). Both have spent their entire careers in the midwest. Not as big of names as the other two but their defenses consistently rank among the best year in year out....just not sure their defenses would fit at Miami.

Jim Knowles (Ok State DC) - Previous Duke DC and has turned OK State defense into a monster with limited talent. UF pursuing but Gundy is trying to keep him. Maybe Mario hops into the picture with a big check? Worth it!

Todd Grantham (Unemployed) - Just kidding. **** no.

Tier 3 - The Underrated Guys: - These guys coach at smaller programs or just don't get the same level of respect of some of the above names. No immediate ties to Mario.

Mike Tressel (Cincinnati DC) - Kept Freeman/Fickell's system in place and has done a masterful job this year. Lots of Big10/Ohio guys on this list. Jeeze. Wouldn't be mad about this hire.

Zach Arnett (Miss State DC) - Led a fantastic defense at SDSU and brought that to Miss State. Young and exciting coach. Mike Leach actually had a decent defense. Who woulda thunk it? You could also add Kurt Mattix, current SDSU DC to this list.

Doug Belk (Houston DC) - Fan favorite. Exciting young coach with a mean pass rush and pairs that with solid recruiting. But does he have enough experience? With only 1 year under his belt as playcaller this would be a little risky.

Glenn Schumann (Georgia Co-DC/ILB) - I wasn't really sure where to put him. He doesn't get as much respect as Lanning does since he's Co-DC but there's a chance he takes over for as DC in the case that Lanning gets a HC role. That is unless Muschamp takes the role. Miami could be an opportunity to cut to the front of the line and earn your stripes as a playcaller.

David Reeves (UAB DC) - No one really talks about UAB but Bill Clark's been putting out great defenses for a while. Reeves has been the DC there for quite some time.

Brad Lambert (Purdue DC) - Was at Marshall last year where he led a really strong defense and has carried that success over to Purdue this year.
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Lambert, Arnett, Tressel (could wind up at ND) and Chinander should be on the list.

Some of those guys I think stay where they are (ISU, Iowa, Wisc, Ok St) hoping to replace the HC in a couple of years.
 
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I love Georgia’s scheme. Glenn Schumann is making $600K at Georgia as Co/DC. Is he too green to be the guy???
 
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gopcane said:
My preference is always well-established, proven coaches, so I'd love to see:
1) Jim Knowles (The Big 12 is loaded with high octane offenses and he slowed them all down; seems like aggressive defense without Manny's quirkiness to it)
2) Jim Leonard (if he would leave Wisconsin)
3) Gary Patterson
4) Todd Orlando
5) Shoop (there was no way of trying to fix Manny's defense as an analyst, but he had quite a track record with his own system)
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Shoop just went to USF.

Pay the buyout?
 
JayCane20 said:
I'm so intrigued by Schumann and they overlapped at Bama for a bit - I'm just not sure we can afford the risk of a first time DC

If Mario were Kirby Smart and had a DC background - sure

I'd still almost pull the trigger knowing what I do about Schumann. Very bright dude with a long future as a DC
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For what it's worth the (apparently hated on here) Miami Flo has heard that the DC is going to be a splash hire. That doesn't scream first time DC to me.
 
JayCane20 said:
Consulting Todd Orlando is how Kirby Smart and Dan Lanning innovated their defense to what it is today - evolving from the traditional Alabama defense of being massive at every position to being able to blitz, cover, and play sideline to sideline all at the same time.

Not sure if he's just had tough luck with personnel at Texas and USC or what - he was a rapid riser in coaching circles as the next great coordinator - hitched himself to Herman for a bit and then just went off a cliff in terms of results and got the axe.

Maybe in a Co-DC role because he's got good ideas and a good scheme. Something has been off at his last 2 stops though. He was good at Houston.
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Co-DC / S (playcalling): Doug Belk
Co-DC / LB: Todd Orlando
CB: T-Rob
DL: Clint Hurtt

I would faint.
 
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