This was up there on the Canes Mt. Rushmore of ****

LOL...you are clueless. First, manager’s that inherit a mess are typically given time to clean up the mess. Unlike in business where you can fire poor performers and relatively immediately replace them, in CFB it takes a little bit more time than 9 months and 4 games to rebuild a program and change a culture.

I love how Manny was brought in the rebuild the program and change the culture.

There was not a single person who said thats what was needed here after Richt. Not one.

Now that Manny is showing his ***, the narrative has changed.

If the program needed to be rebuilt, then perhaps someone with actual experience and not a mac bound young dude who has never won ANYTHING should have been brought in?
 
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It is not where you went to school, but rather what you can contribute to the growth and development of the U... advice, financial, short term, long term projection, school growth, etc..

I understand that and know a number of people on the Board. However, you go to any of the big state schools, or even a Duke, you have more people on the board with tangible experiences of being a student. I doubt there are 5 people on the board who have memories of tailgating and sitting in the student section at the OB.
 
I love how Manny was brought in the rebuild the program and change the culture.

There was not a single person who said thats what was needed here after Richt. Not one.

Now that Manny is showing his ***, the narrative has changed.

If the program needed to be rebuilt, then perhaps someone with actual experience and not a mac bound young dude who has never won ANYTHING should have been brought in?

False.
 
I didn't see that. Link?

Coach Manny Diaz and the Miami Hurricanes stress family, and family comes back to help when needed.
That’s exactly what former Cane OL great Bryant McKinnie has done.
A few weeks ago current UM linemen, anxious with the regular season fast approaching, reached out to McKinnie to ask if he would be willing to tutor them on their off days -- position coaches are only allowed a brief period to work with players each week during the summer.
McKinnie’s answer: A resounding yes.
He has gone above and beyond in recent days, breaking down film with the linemen, including an in-depth analysis of their performance in the spring game.
He gave each lineman instructions on what they need to improve … and even recruited Brett Romberg, another former lineman, to help out at the most recent session Monday.
CaneSport reached out to McKinnie to talk about how the sessions have gone and get his perception on where this Miami offensive line stands with fall practice set to begin on Friday.
Keep in mind, of course, that McKinnie's standard is off the charts. The last Hurricane line McKinnie worked with was the one on which he played left tackle and won a national title. That was 2001, when McKinnie was the Outland Trophy winner. He never allowed a sack in his Miami career. McKinnie went on to play 11 years in the NFL, including a Pro Bowl selection.
The entire Canes offensive line allowed just four sacks that 2001 championship season. By comparison, in each of the past three seasons the group has allowed 25 or more sacks.
In other words, when McKinnie talks, it is worth listening.

And boy did he have a lot to say. There were some things he liked and some major issues he tried to address.
“I got to see what the problems were,” McKinnie told CaneSport on Tuesday. “These guys, they have to use their hands. There’s just things they’re not using that they definitely have to learn. … And I feel they’re not flying off the ball, they’re absorbing. That’s what I was stressing. I’m like `You know the snap count, the defense doesn’t. And if the defense is getting a jump on the snap count, you tell the quarterback to switch it up a little bit.’ And I told them the very first day I was there `You all are getting hit, you have to hit back.’ Like `You all can’t know the snap count and be oozing off. I don’t know if you’re oozing off because you’re not sure of who you’re blocking or you’re taking bad steps coming out of your stance.’ Because there are a lot of bad steps. On steps you want to be gaining ground, and even when they’re pulling they’re not gaining ground. They’re just not. There’s a lot of false stepping. Not all the time they’re oozing off the ball, but when they’re not oozing of the ball it’s because they know what they’re doing. When they’re oozing it’s `I’m not really sure,’ that’s what it looks like to me. Because there were plays where they don’t fire off the ball.”
This is candid talk from a Hurricane great … and the only thing McKinnie knows is the way it was back in the old days. You see a problem, you call it out and you get it fixed. Anything less is unacceptable.
McKinnie adds more of his take on this line: “It’s about detail, you have to give them the detail and the reason why you do it like this. Some of the things they’re doing pass protection-wise, they’re working against each other. So it’s about showing them how to make the job easier on them. It’s communication, too. You explain to them - it’s just to show them how we were as an offensive line and why we were good (when McKinnie was at UM).
"There are things we did that they’re not doing. Like cliques. They have cliques. We were one offensive line, all hung with each other, found time to hang with each other. At least once a week, we’d pick a night, usually Thursday, have dinner together. You have to do those type of things. Things like that you have to do, because if you don’t bond with the guys you’re playing with, don’t really trust them or know if they know their job ......… that’s why you communicate, so you’re not playing slow or looking back to make sure he knows what to do. That’s across the line, to be on the same page.”

The goal for all the linemen, of course, is to help UM to victories and then individually move on to the next level. McKinnie says what he and former Cane/NFL center Brett Romberg, who joined the work yesterday at UM, are hoping to show the current players techniques that will help them both in college and the pros.
“Like hands on pass protection, those guys don’t practice swiping to get the defensive linemen’s hands off you,” McKinnie said. “That’s something you have to do at the next level.”

The leaders on the O line?
McKinnie points to one in particular: Corey Gaynor.
“Gaynor, he controls the meeting when we watch the film and asking everyone who do they have, their assignment,” McKinnie said. “So he took on the leadership role. He knew his stuff.
“That’s another thing, these guys have to get in the playbook.”
That playbook, of course, is all new under Dan Enos.
And the former players are looking to help.
“Romberg came up with some possible schemes to make it easier for some of them when it comes to blocking,” McKinnie said. “So it’ll make sense, make it easier.”
No word yet on if UM coaches will heed the suggestion, but certainly the new staff will do all it can to get the biggest question mark area on offense functioning at a high level.
A major issue that may not have a fix in the near term?
McKinnie says he doesn’t see a true solid left tackle ready to play.
“I don’t, but they’re still learning,” McKinnie said. “You can maybe get one developed into one.”
Another issue that can only be fixed through recruiting: Getting more NFL-level talent on the line.



Some of the things they’re doing pass protection-wise, they’re working against each other. So it’s about showing them how to make the job easier on them.
— Bryant McKinnie

What kind of NFL talent does McKinnie see among these linemen?
“55 (Navaughn Donaldson), I can see him being a guard,” McKinnie said.
McKinnie ends the sentence there.
So can Miami overcome not having more than one true NFL level offensive line player as of now on the roster?
“I don’t know, I have to see them more - right now I’m just taking the mistakes I see on film and I’m trying to fix it on the field,” McKinnie said.
While there’s a lot to fix, McKinnie strikes an upbeat tone when it comes to the line being ready to play well once the season starts in about a month.
“They have the potential to be very good,” McKinnie said. “This is a good time for them to go into training camp with some of the things we’re giving them to work on. I just feel like they have a great defense to go against that should make them better. So don’t be intimidated by your own defense. That’s another thing we explained to them - they have to challenge them, because the defense walks around real ****y.”
This is the first time McKinnie has helped regularly - last year he worked with the unit once before he essentially wasn’t welcomed back.

The new staff appears more open-minded about help from the former players.
“Players reached out, wanted me to come down,” McKinnie said. “The players hit me up, were like `Hey, we want to take time out on an off day and you can show us some things, show us what needs to be fixed, would you mind coming down and helping us?’ The players were saying that last year, and Romberg and I felt the same way - when we went to help Romberg may have said something and then I may have said something and it kind of felt like `Uh, mind your business, let us do this.’ We felt like with the former coach, us being there we were there for support and trying to tell them what to do to fix it, it got funny a little bit.
“Now we can come down twice a week and help them with technique. The new coach hasn’t had them that long, one spring session, and they say he’s a good coach, like him. Me hearing that lets me know they’re buying into what they’re teaching, which is good. I just want to make sure they’re using their hands. And someone keeps making all these mental errors, call them out. Like (one lineman) was joking all the time, when we got in there and watch film he’s the one pulling and standing up the highest, making the most mistakes. So it’s like `What’s so funny? Because you’re getting your *** kicked.’”
The next session?
Well McKinnie is headed out of town so he won’t be able to make it to campus on Thursday, as he previously planned. But Romberg will be there, possibly joined by another former Cane lineman, Vernon Carey.
It’s a big extended family trying to help as needed.
“You want as many voices helping as you can,” McKinnie said. “We’ll keep doing it through the season if we can. Because when they’re off and they want to do it on their own time, then we don’t mind doing it.”

THIS JUST IN
Oh, and there’s this: McKinnie says he knows “who the favorite is right now” to win the QB race.
But he’s not giving out any hints.
What he will say, when asked if he’s comfortable with whomever that player is: “Listen, those guys sound like they’re comfortable with him, they’re with him so I guess (I’m comfortable too). Because they would know better than me because they spend a lot more time with (the QBs). It’s about them feeling comfortable.”
 
I understand that and know a number of people on the Board. However, you go to any of the big state schools, or even a Duke, you have more people on the board with tangible experiences of being a student. I doubt there are 5 people on the board who have memories of tailgating and sitting in the student section at the OB.

It's a status symbol. The University of Miami is the beating heart of the city, so to be a board member is VERY prestigious. The problem for the non alumni members is that they aren't passionate about the university. It's a business to them. As long as the school has cash flow, they are satisfied. Their kids are going to ivy league schools, so they don't really care if the school drops out of the top 50 as long as the kids of their rich local friends keep on enrolling.
 
Shanny and his staff and team are all a mess. That game was reminiscent of all of the worst we’ve seen here over the last two decades of diarrhea—the NC State Kirby Freeman 1 for 11 for 8 yards game; Shanntard’s USF farewell; Folden’s Clemson death march.

This one was right up there with the worst of the worst, and we’ve seen a ton of horrible football here over the last 20 years. Football doesn’t get much worse than what we saw out there yesterday.

We are completely outclassed in the coaching department every week aside from Bethune. Just look at that moribund staff Shanny assembled.

What has any of them done in their careers at their current position that has distinguished them? Barry? Who the fck is this goofy looking fck? I follow football closer than anyone, and I never heard of him until Shanny dragged him in here.

Stubby? Fired everywhere he’s been.

Patke and Tom Cruz? Two guys who should be working at Lowe’s.

Why is Akron so prominent on our coaching resumes? The Bowden/Amato connection? That’s all our HC has? A connection to a couple withered prunes with saggier t1ts than my grandma?



The truth about UM for at least 10 years =

UM and President Frank are about Academics #1

Football is solely a fundraiser/attention-getter department for the University.

They don't give a sh*t about what happened 15-20 years ago with football.

For them it's about putting all the money and focus on competing for academics.

You can scream, fly banners over the stadium and rant all you want on CIS-- it won't change the mentality in the UM Board Room.

If you want to root for a school that puts academics LAST and football FIRST-- you need to become a fan of the Gators, Bama, Clemson, Georgia....

That's the truth....and it hurts like a b*tch....
 
It's a status symbol. The University of Miami is the beating heart of the city, so to be a board member is VERY prestigious. The problem for the non alumni members is that they aren't passionate about the university. It's a business to them. As long as the school has cash flow, they are satisfied. Their kids are going to ivy league schools, so they don't really care if the school drops out of the top 50 as long as the kids of their rich local friends keep on enrolling.
Again, I understand all of this. I am not questioning why they want to be on the board. I know a number of board members and sat on a BoT committee when in law school.

It is more of an issue from the school's side. If you go to Georgia or Texas or Duke or Southern California or Notre Dame or even Tulane, the board is largely comprised of alumni who care about all facets of the school and approach it from their varied experiences as students. We do not have that. There are about 5-10 that have an interest in sports.
 
I understand that and know a number of people on the Board. However, you go to any of the big state schools, or even a Duke, you have more people on the board with tangible experiences of being a student. I doubt there are 5 people on the board who have memories of tailgating and sitting in the student section at the OB.

Hold on........you want a BOT full of people who went to UM? First experience with Boards?
 
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The truth about UM for at least 10 years =

UM and President Frank are about Academics #1

Football is solely a fundraiser/attention-getter department for the University.

They don't give a sh*t about what happened 15-20 years ago with football.

For them it's about putting all the money and focus on competing for academics.

You can scream, fly banners over the stadium and rant all you want on CIS-- it won't change the mentality in the UM Board Room.

If you want to root for a school that puts academics LAST and football FIRST-- you need to become a fan of the Gators, Bama, Clemson, Georgia....

That's the truth....and it hurts like a b*tch....

Georgia and Florida are both ranked higher than Miami at present for undergrad and a number of grad school programs. Frenk is an unmitigated disaster as the president of the school.
 
Cool, but I don't want a BOT that sits around making football decisions. They are running a university, not an athletic program.
Well, they are doing a **** poor job at that too, as the law school has been in free-fall for about 10 years, the undergrad has dropped 20 spots, and the business school MBA is not even ranked in the current US News (FSU, Alabama, and 129 other schools are ranked). But please continue to lecture me about how they should ignore a side of the school that drives admissions and donor giving, two large components to the US News rankings. You don't need to choose between academics and athletics as a student anymore. There are plenty of schools that have both, and living in Atlanta, there are plenty with strong alumni networks at top companies around town for after graduation.

Edit - The same people who can't pick a competent AD to run the athletics side, to no surprise, cannot pick a competent President to run the academics.
 
Well, they are doing a **** poor job at that too, as the law school has been in free-fall for about 10 years, the undergrad has dropped 20 spots, and the business school MBA is not even ranked in the current US News (FSU, Alabama, and 129 other schools are ranked). But please continue to lecture me about how they should ignore a side of the school that drives admissions and donor giving, two large components to the US News rankings. You don't need to choose between academics and athletics as a student anymore. There are plenty of schools that have both, and living in Atlanta, there are plenty with strong alumni networks at top companies around town for after graduation.

Edit - The same people who can't pick a competent AD to run the athletics side, to no surprise, cannot pick a competent President to run the academics.

The next time I say that the BOT should ignore athletics will be the first time, but you needed to have something to rant against. I don't take it personally. Most people around here can't argue any better than you can.
 
The next time I say that the BOT should ignore athletics will be the first time, but you needed to have something to rant against. I don't take it personally. Most people around here can't argue any better than you can.
No one is saying athletics are their primary function or the university's. You can try to talk down to other people on this board who do not have direct knowledge of and experience with how things work in Coral Gables and not-for-profits/universities/athletic associations as a whole. You are arguing for the sake of arguing and are talking out of your ***.

Edit - I actually couldn't care less.
 
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So we should fire everybody because we’ve taken an expected step back on defense this year after losing 5 of our best players on that side of the ball?

Let’s face it, we aren’t sitting here at 2-2 because of the defense.

We lost to UNC who was a bigger dumpster fire than us last year, also has a whole new staff, lost to app state, and has way less talent than us. Somehow Mac turned them around.

We had trouble with CMU who was 1-11 in the MAC last year, has a new coaching staff, led by an awful coach, yet he turned them around somehow.

Losing against UF is understandable. Even losing against some other Coastal teams would be reasonable, but when you lost against bigger dumpster fires than us with other first time coaches and less talent. There is an issue.
 
I can’t believe the above has to be explained to someone. The buck stops with the person in charge. Simple as that. if someone is underperforming and the manager or coach or ceo doesn’t take care of it, it’s their fault. If a whole department team or company is underperforming it’s the manager, coach, ceo, etc fault.

I really couldn't believe I had to explain this to an adult either, but then I remembered most people probably never had to do anything, but take orders and blndly follow instructions their entire lives.
 
I really couldn't believe I had to explain this to an adult either, but then I remembered most people probably never had to do anything, but take orders and blndly follow instructions their entire lives.


You got a remember that CIS is where all the special needs adults hang out… Especially the Tourette’s syndrome folks.

Even if you’re making a totally logical statement they will find a reason to argue.

But they are special needs so cut them slack…
 
Coach Manny Diaz and the Miami Hurricanes stress family, and family comes back to help when needed.
That’s exactly what former Cane OL great Bryant McKinnie has done.
A few weeks ago current UM linemen, anxious with the regular season fast approaching, reached out to McKinnie to ask if he would be willing to tutor them on their off days -- position coaches are only allowed a brief period to work with players each week during the summer.
McKinnie’s answer: A resounding yes.
He has gone above and beyond in recent days, breaking down film with the linemen, including an in-depth analysis of their performance in the spring game.
He gave each lineman instructions on what they need to improve … and even recruited Brett Romberg, another former lineman, to help out at the most recent session Monday.
CaneSport reached out to McKinnie to talk about how the sessions have gone and get his perception on where this Miami offensive line stands with fall practice set to begin on Friday.
Keep in mind, of course, that McKinnie's standard is off the charts. The last Hurricane line McKinnie worked with was the one on which he played left tackle and won a national title. That was 2001, when McKinnie was the Outland Trophy winner. He never allowed a sack in his Miami career. McKinnie went on to play 11 years in the NFL, including a Pro Bowl selection.
The entire Canes offensive line allowed just four sacks that 2001 championship season. By comparison, in each of the past three seasons the group has allowed 25 or more sacks.
In other words, when McKinnie talks, it is worth listening.

And boy did he have a lot to say. There were some things he liked and some major issues he tried to address.
“I got to see what the problems were,” McKinnie told CaneSport on Tuesday. “These guys, they have to use their hands. There’s just things they’re not using that they definitely have to learn. … And I feel they’re not flying off the ball, they’re absorbing. That’s what I was stressing. I’m like `You know the snap count, the defense doesn’t. And if the defense is getting a jump on the snap count, you tell the quarterback to switch it up a little bit.’ And I told them the very first day I was there `You all are getting hit, you have to hit back.’ Like `You all can’t know the snap count and be oozing off. I don’t know if you’re oozing off because you’re not sure of who you’re blocking or you’re taking bad steps coming out of your stance.’ Because there are a lot of bad steps. On steps you want to be gaining ground, and even when they’re pulling they’re not gaining ground. They’re just not. There’s a lot of false stepping. Not all the time they’re oozing off the ball, but when they’re not oozing of the ball it’s because they know what they’re doing. When they’re oozing it’s `I’m not really sure,’ that’s what it looks like to me. Because there were plays where they don’t fire off the ball.”
This is candid talk from a Hurricane great … and the only thing McKinnie knows is the way it was back in the old days. You see a problem, you call it out and you get it fixed. Anything less is unacceptable.
McKinnie adds more of his take on this line: “It’s about detail, you have to give them the detail and the reason why you do it like this. Some of the things they’re doing pass protection-wise, they’re working against each other. So it’s about showing them how to make the job easier on them. It’s communication, too. You explain to them - it’s just to show them how we were as an offensive line and why we were good (when McKinnie was at UM).
"There are things we did that they’re not doing. Like cliques. They have cliques. We were one offensive line, all hung with each other, found time to hang with each other. At least once a week, we’d pick a night, usually Thursday, have dinner together. You have to do those type of things. Things like that you have to do, because if you don’t bond with the guys you’re playing with, don’t really trust them or know if they know their job ......… that’s why you communicate, so you’re not playing slow or looking back to make sure he knows what to do. That’s across the line, to be on the same page.”

The goal for all the linemen, of course, is to help UM to victories and then individually move on to the next level. McKinnie says what he and former Cane/NFL center Brett Romberg, who joined the work yesterday at UM, are hoping to show the current players techniques that will help them both in college and the pros.
“Like hands on pass protection, those guys don’t practice swiping to get the defensive linemen’s hands off you,” McKinnie said. “That’s something you have to do at the next level.”

The leaders on the O line?
McKinnie points to one in particular: Corey Gaynor.
“Gaynor, he controls the meeting when we watch the film and asking everyone who do they have, their assignment,” McKinnie said. “So he took on the leadership role. He knew his stuff.
“That’s another thing, these guys have to get in the playbook.”
That playbook, of course, is all new under Dan Enos.
And the former players are looking to help.
“Romberg came up with some possible schemes to make it easier for some of them when it comes to blocking,” McKinnie said. “So it’ll make sense, make it easier.”
No word yet on if UM coaches will heed the suggestion, but certainly the new staff will do all it can to get the biggest question mark area on offense functioning at a high level.
A major issue that may not have a fix in the near term?
McKinnie says he doesn’t see a true solid left tackle ready to play.
“I don’t, but they’re still learning,” McKinnie said. “You can maybe get one developed into one.”
Another issue that can only be fixed through recruiting: Getting more NFL-level talent on the line.



Some of the things they’re doing pass protection-wise, they’re working against each other. So it’s about showing them how to make the job easier on them.
— Bryant McKinnie

What kind of NFL talent does McKinnie see among these linemen?
“55 (Navaughn Donaldson), I can see him being a guard,” McKinnie said.
McKinnie ends the sentence there.
So can Miami overcome not having more than one true NFL level offensive line player as of now on the roster?
“I don’t know, I have to see them more - right now I’m just taking the mistakes I see on film and I’m trying to fix it on the field,” McKinnie said.
While there’s a lot to fix, McKinnie strikes an upbeat tone when it comes to the line being ready to play well once the season starts in about a month.
“They have the potential to be very good,” McKinnie said. “This is a good time for them to go into training camp with some of the things we’re giving them to work on. I just feel like they have a great defense to go against that should make them better. So don’t be intimidated by your own defense. That’s another thing we explained to them - they have to challenge them, because the defense walks around real ****y.”
This is the first time McKinnie has helped regularly - last year he worked with the unit once before he essentially wasn’t welcomed back.

The new staff appears more open-minded about help from the former players.
“Players reached out, wanted me to come down,” McKinnie said. “The players hit me up, were like `Hey, we want to take time out on an off day and you can show us some things, show us what needs to be fixed, would you mind coming down and helping us?’ The players were saying that last year, and Romberg and I felt the same way - when we went to help Romberg may have said something and then I may have said something and it kind of felt like `Uh, mind your business, let us do this.’ We felt like with the former coach, us being there we were there for support and trying to tell them what to do to fix it, it got funny a little bit.
“Now we can come down twice a week and help them with technique. The new coach hasn’t had them that long, one spring session, and they say he’s a good coach, like him. Me hearing that lets me know they’re buying into what they’re teaching, which is good. I just want to make sure they’re using their hands. And someone keeps making all these mental errors, call them out. Like (one lineman) was joking all the time, when we got in there and watch film he’s the one pulling and standing up the highest, making the most mistakes. So it’s like `What’s so funny? Because you’re getting your *** kicked.’”
The next session?
Well McKinnie is headed out of town so he won’t be able to make it to campus on Thursday, as he previously planned. But Romberg will be there, possibly joined by another former Cane lineman, Vernon Carey.
It’s a big extended family trying to help as needed.
“You want as many voices helping as you can,” McKinnie said. “We’ll keep doing it through the season if we can. Because when they’re off and they want to do it on their own time, then we don’t mind doing it.”

THIS JUST IN
Oh, and there’s this: McKinnie says he knows “who the favorite is right now” to win the QB race.
But he’s not giving out any hints.
What he will say, when asked if he’s comfortable with whomever that player is: “Listen, those guys sound like they’re comfortable with him, they’re with him so I guess (I’m comfortable too). Because they would know better than me because they spend a lot more time with (the QBs). It’s about them feeling comfortable.”
What a F-ing Travesty....Unbelievable...
 
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