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STG said:
I wouldn't be against that.
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STG said:
Great coach = 5 losses to sub .500 teams in 4 years at Oregon with an elite roster.

Great coach = .500 record against ranked opponents while at Oregon.

Great coach = two 4 loss seasons and one 3 loss season in 4 years at Oregon.

He wins 8 games here, he will believe he is great because supposedly our talent is so bad getting blown out by MTSU, DUKE and FSU should be expected. Not scoring a TD in 3 of 6 games against P5 opponents should be expected. Not scoring a TD in back to back games for the first time since 1964 should be expected. Losing 4 straight home games for the first time since 1973 should be expected.
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Ok you failed the first test. Now can you define a ****** coach?
 
STG said:
Haha...I thought that was Mario but I have now learned otherwise.
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Hate to say it, but I liked the Mario hire at first. But have realized he is to hard headed and his lack of knowledge in todays evolution of college football X’s and O’s.. He won’t be able to recruit good enough to compensate for his poor game prep and management
 
None of what OP prescribes will happen imo. Cristobal is a douche nozzle.
 
bobbo31 said:
I think too many of you forget that along with USC, Oregon is the only other super power in the west. They have unlimited Nike dollars, have top notch facilities and have had for years, uniform schemes that are a huge bonus and have a fertile recruiting base in Northern Cal, Oregon and Washington and the whole west to a lesser extent because of the lack of marquee programs out there.

Mario didn’t exactly turn things around out there. Oregon has been a top tier program going back to Belotti in the late 90’s, they were a top 5-10 consistently under Chip Kelly, and made it to the national title game against Auburn under Helfrich. Mario didn’t exactly do anything different or better than the names there before him.
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Dont let the bros here this. I was saying this years ago whenever mc name owuld come up ...but.......
 
Mario is stuck with a terrible team if children that has no hint of D-I level play.
How some here don’t see this is really very surprising , it’s so obvious it’s almost mind blowing .

JJ always compared his starters to opponents team’s and open-mindedly to see if his players could start on opponents team.

Try it and you will be shocked to the reality of how bad we really are in lack of talent.

But then again it doesn’t matter from what I’ve read here .

Basically we are making a situation here that we are making coaches rich then firing them in a couple years , they leave an very rich plus getting a new gig getting paid from (2) places .

Soon if we are not careful recruits will turn away because of the fans.

It is what it is , to watch all this

GOCANES
 
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moshated305 said:
This dude said Herbert was generational lol
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He’s been a thorn & pain in my side this season. He’s been stinking it up, or maybe it’s b/c all those weapons he had have been M.I.A this season. I’m not going to even rehash the argument about Herbert + Mario, but see Herbert w/ weapons & see him w/o weapons.
 
Rellyrell said:
He’s been a thorn & pain in my side this season. He’s been stinking it up, or maybe it’s b/c all those weapons he had have been M.I.A this season. I’m not going to even rehash the argument about Herbert + Mario, but see Herbert w/ weapons & see him w/o weapons.
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His two best weapons have been out all season
 
STG said:
Sorry, I disagree on your 2nd point. The results at Oregon are due to the current coaching staffs success at identifying the correct schemes to utilize said personnel. It's due to proper coaching and development. You don't look INFINITELY better like Oregon does this year, compared to last, especially when running different schemes and with a new staff and say it's just the players.

Explain how Oregon has scored 40+ points in 8 straight games this year, when Mario's archaic offenses managed 40+ points a total of 7 times in the 3 combined seasons prior?
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The OC is the same OC Bo Nicks had at Auburn. Continuity is the key to success as well as talent level.

Oregon is winning with Mario's guys. Especially the OL which the announcers credited him during the Washington game.
 
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fresssh said:
Hiring privileges needs to be revoked. He needs to do the only thing hes good at. Recruit. If not, none of his recruit classes will ever do a **** thing. Recruit and leave all the football stuff to people who know what the **** there doing. Not that we have any of those people.
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Ahh, yes. Super realistic to hire a proven head coach, to pay him $8,000,000 annually—trusting him enough to give him a ten-year deal—only to take the process of hiring assistants out of his hands, because some donkeys on message boards feel he should only be allowed to recruit. Brilliant take. Someone needs to get this over to Dan Radakovich immediately.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
The OC is the same OC Bo Nicks had at Auburn. Continuity is the key to success as well as talent level.

Oregon is winning with Mario's guys. Especially the OL which the announcers credited him during the Washington game.
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One season as his OC at Auburn does not classify as continuity, which also happened to be 3 years ago when Nix was a freshman.
 
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ItsAUThing.com said:
Ahh, yes. Super realistic to hire a proven head coach, to pay him $8,000,000 annually—trusting him enough to give him a ten-year deal—only to take the process of hiring assistants out of his hands, because some donkeys on message boards feel he should only be allowed to recruit. Brilliant take. Someone needs to get this over to Dan Radakovich immediately.
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Yup. Keep believing in your 66-65 "proven" coach. Only thing hes proven is he made the wrong decisions on hiring coaches and getting his *** kicked by Middle tennesee, and Duke at home.
 
STG said:
The solution is simple. Mario needs to have multiple come to Jesus moments at this point in his career.

1. He needs to look in the mirror and say to himself, I suck as a gameday coach. I bring no value as an X's and O's guy. So I need to keep my opinion or beliefs out of what style of ball we play on O and D.

2. He needs to hire proven/elite coordinators, with recent success, who have unequivocally had that success on their own.

3. He needs to hire coordinators with modern schemes and give them full autonomy. Meaning, allow them to run their own style, bring in their own coaches and stay the **** out of the way.

4. He needs to hire an analyst who is solely dedicated to understanding clock management and assist in that aspect of the game.

5. He needs to focus his efforts on what he is good at. Recruiting, facility upgrades, being a figurehead.

If he does not do the above, at best he is a 9-10 win coach in the ACC even with 85 5 stars on the roster. Dig deeper into his time at Oregon. In 3 of his 4 years, he managed two 4 loss seasons and one 3 loss season. He did that with his own, elite players. He did that at a time where the PAC 12 was at it's absolute worst in recent memory. USC was a **** show during his time there. Stanford was a **** show. Washingtown was down. The best competition was Utah and we saw what they did to Oregon twice last year, who had FAR SUPERIOR talent.

Mario lost 5 games in 4 years to opponents with sub .500 records while at Oregon. He was 7-7 against ranked opponents. He is NOT a good coach no matter how you look at it.

Look at how much better Oregon looks this year under Lanning versus how they looked last year under Mario. Lanning is getting way more out of that team compared to what Mario did. For example, Oregon has scored 40+ points in 8 straight games, has a bonafide top 10 offense and is a legitimate playoff contender. Mario managed to eclipse 40+ points 7 times in the 2021, 2020 and 2019 seasons combined! And in 2019 he had a generational QB in Justin Herbert.

Lanning, who is a defensive coach, has turned Oregon into a top offense in the country in year 1. How? Because he hired an OC who runs a more modern offense and gave him autonomy over the offense. And they are doing this with a QB they brought in, who was a bum before and have now resurrected into a likely Heisman finalist.

I mentioned this prior, when I read moronic posts about how it's not possible to turn a losing program around in 1 year, and showed just how many teams have accomplished that this year alone. TCU, USC and LSU are all top 8 teams in the country who all had losing records last year. Those results alone debunk that Mario needs years or his own players to have success. And if he does, he is a far worse coach than a lot of us already believed.

This off season will tell us everything we need to know about Mario and what his future will look like at UM. To me, it's really simple. I don't believe firing or moving on from a handful of current coaches is enough. I truly believe the entire staff needs to be gutted. Why? Becuase which truly, elite/great coordinators are okay with not choosing their own position coaches? As it is, it will be difficult IMO to bring in great coordinators after the **** show that has taken place this year, and the past 20 years of UM football, but you can't make it harder by not allowing those coordinators to bring in their own guys. He just made that mistake with this current staff. He cannot repeat it again.

Mario has a reputation of meddling to much in the coaching cirlces, so he needs to get the **** out of the way. Make sure he makes it clear that his coordinators will have full autonomy in every aspect of their side of the ball. If he is not able to do that, he will fail, it's that simple.

I am not absolving players of blame. There are plenty of guys who need to be told to seek shelter elsewhere and that is already in the works. I mentioned names prior who are already likely gone and that list continues to grow. 35-40 players from this current roster will be gone. So going into next season 80% of the roster will be Mario's own guys.

Lastly, this was where it should have been telling for any fan that was still on the fence regarding Gattis or just in general of the massive disconnect between this staff and the current players. Xavier Restrepo is the most respected and likeable young man on this roster. The young man is the hardest worker and shows the upmost respect to his teammates and coaches. I can say all of that unequivocally. When he flat out walked by and ignored Gattis on the sidelines yesterday, that was all you needed to see to know just how bad things really are inside that locker room.
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@STG .....One of the best Posts I've read on CIS in quite some time. You pretty much summed it up perfectly. Anyone who disagrees is only fooling themselves.
 
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