This is Mario's reality

[19Trojan]

You’re ok with these pathetic losses?

We have a salesman for a football coach. Eventually, the recruits will stop buying his bull****, and the $ will stop coming. Whats excuse going to be next year? Going to tell recruits come get early PT because our players are trash? Going to tell the corners come take Mcclains spot because he keeps getting burned? Come take Francis spot because hes trash?

U really have issues find another team crybaby, if ur such a great internet coach call up highsmith tell him your the answer to all the problems. U believed all the media hype on Miami . Thinking Tvd was a first round pick probably cry cry cry

 

[dirtyred786]

So dude what are you ******* defending? Have you looked at Kiffin’s coaching record? He has consistently turned teams around in his first year, at FAU he took a 3-9 team under Charlie Partridge (up there with the best recruiters in the game and talent evaluators in the game) and turned it into an 11-3 team with a blowout bowl win in his first year and had that team playing as good as any group of 5 team in the country. He turned around Ole miss quickly as well. So the “guy you wanted” has a history of turning around programs very quickly.

It’s comical you have been fighting us on here that things have to get worse before they become better.

After watching these players, I think we would still be struggling with Kiffin. We need a roster overhaul.

 

[RealRussellPumps]

Agree with everything OP said. My gut tells me however that even if we fire Gattis, Mario isn’t all of sudden going to go and hire some spread savant to replace him. We’ll get more of the same philosophy just a different name on it. My only hope is that because Mario truly loves the U, maybe JUST MAYBE, we get lucky and he has a realization that his pride is getting in the way of getting us back to where we want to be.

 

[bobbo31]

Most of these players won 7 games last year with Manny as the HC and 3 of those 5 losses were without Van Dyke playing or in his first career start without taking many reps because King was the starter. We don’t by any mean **** you talent but we also aren’t dearth of talent either. We have the talent right now to win 8, 9 or 10 games with this schedule, that’s the reason why most on here thought we would win 8 or 9 games this season on the poll before the year.

 

[19Trojan]

So dude what are you ******* defending? Have you looked at Kiffin’s coaching record? He has consistently turned teams around in his first year, at FAU he took a 3-9 team under Charlie Partridge (up there with the best recruiters in the game and talent evaluators in the game) and turned it into an 11-3 team with a blowout bowl win in his first year and had that team playing as good as any group of 5 team in the country. He turned around Ole miss quickly as well. So the “guy you wanted” has a history of turning around programs very quickly.

It’s comical you have been fighting us on here that things have to get worse before they become better.

Thought Kiffin would’ve done great here. His attitude ,offense mind. He wouldve had no problem getting a top young dc in here.

 

[Tonio]

So when we get a new OC, we will win the ACC with the same players we have now?

I think it is a combo of both

OP brings up Oregon. Their OC/scheme was pretty much considered garbage last year at FSU. All of a sudden it's great? OC philosophy hasn't changed just the players. Norvell was garbage last year, this year the offense is much better with the help of bringing in portal guys.

 

[The canesman]

All this Mario bashing on a personal level is unjust. For all the player defenders out there, Alabama would have 4 loses this year if it weren’t for Young. You gonna listen to a guy like Finebaum who called out Saban? gattis was successful at Michigan because he had “talent “ to accomplish the wins they had. Harbaugh had a very rough beginning but stuck to his plan and found the type players he needed to get the job done and who would buy in to his “team “ concept. Right now there is no team at Miami. Blame Mario blame the coaches blame highsmith blame reed blame strong blame the cheerleaders it is what it is. It’s a sh&t show left behind by Diaz.

 

[JASONCOEM]

Well, we’re losing big time and have a top 10 recruiting class. So I’m not sure about that last sentence…

If you ain’t winning, your not gonna get the best payers! That is a fact. But let’s be clear, i said winning not ”winning championship!! Good Coaches Win, Great Coaches win Championships!!! Development is progress!! Even the worst people much less athletes can be developed.’ Development=Progress=winning!! I see zero of that going on with our team in any phase what so ever. Absolutely impossible to put even half the blame on the players! How did most of these players get recruited by other good/great programs out of Highschool?

 

[77cane]

it might have been an exaggeration but Herbert is at the very least a superstar QB and has been essentially since he came in the league.

No he hasn't.

 

[JASONCOEM]

Lanning filled a few gaps in Mario's team. I saw Oregon play last year with a ****tty QB, and they still beat Ohio State. Who's to say Mario wouldn't have made those same adjustments Lanning did.

Mario is doing fine in my opinion. Our team is soft and has a lot of holes. He knows Gattis isnt the answer, but nothing he can do it about it until the season is over. It's just another whole for him to fill in the off season. I fully expect Mario to go crazy in the portal and recruiting for 23 & 24 kids.

Mario has brought in some good talent in the portal and our 23 class is looking good. We will be fine. Mario now knows what each player brings, and has seen what all these players can and cant do. It will be easy for him to make cuts knowing he gave everyone a season to shine and prove they belong on this team.

Mario is a GREAT coach. Recruiting is the base fundamental to winning, and he is one of the best. We arent a LSU team that can bounce back that quick.

I agree with all your bullets, but not your Lanning/Oregon comparisons.

Define Great Coach?

 

[bobbo31]

No he hasn't.

Explain how being the highest rated qb in his first 2 years isn’t superstar quality?

 

[JASONCOEM]

Lanning filled a few gaps in Mario's team. I saw Oregon play last year with a ****tty QB, and they still beat Ohio State. Who's to say Mario wouldn't have made those same adjustments Lanning did.

Mario is doing fine in my opinion. Our team is soft and has a lot of holes. He knows Gattis isnt the answer, but nothing he can do it about it until the season is over. It's just another whole for him to fill in the off season. I fully expect Mario to go crazy in the portal and recruiting for 23 & 24 kids.

Mario has brought in some good talent in the portal and our 23 class is looking good. We will be fine. Mario now knows what each player brings, and has seen what all these players can and cant do. It will be easy for him to make cuts knowing he gave everyone a season to shine and prove they belong on this team.

Mario is a GREAT coach. Recruiting is the base fundamental to winning, and he is one of the best. We arent a LSU team that can bounce back that quick.

I agree with all your bullets, but not your Lanning/Oregon comparisons.

Good coaches follow successful sport programs. Great coaches invent new ones.

 

[bobbo31]

All this Mario bashing on a personal level is unjust. For all the player defenders out there, Alabama would have 4 loses this year if it weren’t for Young. You gonna listen to a guy like Finebaum who called out Saban? gattis was successful at Michigan because he had “talent “ to accomplish the wins they had. Harbaugh had a very rough beginning but stuck to his plan and found the type players he needed to get the job done and who would buy in to his “team “ concept. Right now there is no team at Miami. Blame Mario blame the coaches blame highsmith blame reed blame strong blame the cheerleaders it is what it is. It’s a sh&t show left behind by Diaz.

Michigan’s offense has been better since Gattis left, Oregon is better without Mario but you put the 2 of them together and Miami all of a sudden goes from a 7 win team to a 4 or 5 win team? Hmmmmmm

 

[STG]

Explain how being the highest rated qb in his first 2 years isn’t superstar quality?

Again, can't cure that disease.

 

[NJcane55]

He should of stuck with golden and not left us for bama golden new where mario belonged

 

[SayWhat]

The solution is simple. Mario needs to have multiple come to Jesus moments at this point in his career.

1. He needs to look in the mirror and say to himself, I suck as a gameday coach. I bring no value as an X's and O's guy. So I need to keep my opinion or beliefs out of what style of ball we play on O and D.

2. He needs to hire proven/elite coordinators, with recent success, who have unequivocally had that success on their own.

3. He needs to hire coordinators with modern schemes and give them full autonomy. Meaning, allow them to run their own style, bring in their own coaches and stay the **** out of the way.

4. He needs to hire an analyst who is solely dedicated to understanding clock management and assist in that aspect of the game.

5. He needs to focus his efforts on what he is good at. Recruiting, facility upgrades, being a figurehead.

If he does not do the above, at best he is a 9-10 win coach in the ACC even with 85 5 stars on the roster. Dig deeper into his time at Oregon. In 3 of his 4 years, he managed two 4 loss seasons and one 3 loss season. He did that with his own, elite players. He did that at a time where the PAC 12 was at it's absolute worst in recent memory. USC was a **** show during his time there. Stanford was a **** show. Washingtown was down. The best competition was Utah and we saw what they did to Oregon twice last year, who had FAR SUPERIOR talent.

Mario lost 5 games in 4 years to opponents with sub .500 records while at Oregon. He was 7-7 against ranked opponents. He is NOT a good coach no matter how you look at it.

Look at how much better Oregon looks this year under Lanning versus how they looked last year under Mario. Lanning is getting way more out of that team compared to what Mario did. For example, Oregon has scored 40+ points in 8 straight games, has a bonafide top 10 offense and is a legitimate playoff contender. Mario managed to eclipse 40+ points 7 times in the 2021, 2020 and 2019 seasons combined! And in 2019 he had a generational QB in Justin Herbert.

Lanning, who is a defensive coach, has turned Oregon into a top offense in the country in year 1. How? Because he hired an OC who runs a more modern offense and gave him autonomy over the offense. And they are doing this with a QB they brought in, who was a bum before and have now resurrected into a likely Heisman finalist.

I mentioned this prior, when I read moronic posts about how it's not possible to turn a losing program around in 1 year, and showed just how many teams have accomplished that this year alone. TCU, USC and LSU are all top 8 teams in the country who all had losing records last year. Those results alone debunk that Mario needs years or his own players to have success. And if he does, he is a far worse coach than a lot of us already believed.

This off season will tell us everything we need to know about Mario and what his future will look like at UM. To me, it's really simple. I don't believe firing or moving on from a handful of current coaches is enough. I truly believe the entire staff needs to be gutted. Why? Becuase which truly, elite/great coordinators are okay with not choosing their own position coaches? As it is, it will be difficult IMO to bring in great coordinators after the **** show that has taken place this year, and the past 20 years of UM football, but you can't make it harder by not allowing those coordinators to bring in their own guys. He just made that mistake with this current staff. He cannot repeat it again.

Mario has a reputation of meddling to much in the coaching cirlces, so he needs to get the **** out of the way. Make sure he makes it clear that his coordinators will have full autonomy in every aspect of their side of the ball. If he is not able to do that, he will fail, it's that simple.

I am not absolving players of blame. There are plenty of guys who need to be told to seek shelter elsewhere and that is already in the works. I mentioned names prior who are already likely gone and that list continues to grow. 35-40 players from this current roster will be gone. So going into next season 80% of the roster will be Mario's own guys.

Lastly, this was where it should have been telling for any fan that was still on the fence regarding Gattis or just in general of the massive disconnect between this staff and the current players. Xavier Restrepo is the most respected and likeable young man on this roster. The young man is the hardest worker and shows the upmost respect to his teammates and coaches. I can say all of that unequivocally. When he flat out walked by and ignored Gattis on the sidelines yesterday, that was all you needed to see to know just how bad things really are inside that locker room.

Jesus, **** of a post. Post more.

Also, LMFA at anyone who thinks Oregon would be doing what they're doing this year with Mario still there.

Glad you brought it up about him getting new coordinators and giving them full autonomy on their staff choices. I brought that up last night. Let them do their thing and get out of the way.

 

[gogeta4]

The solution is simple. Mario needs to have multiple come to Jesus moments at this point in his career.

1. He needs to look in the mirror and say to himself, I suck as a gameday coach. I bring no value as an X's and O's guy. So I need to keep my opinion or beliefs out of what style of ball we play on O and D.

2. He needs to hire proven/elite coordinators, with recent success, who have unequivocally had that success on their own.

3. He needs to hire coordinators with modern schemes and give them full autonomy. Meaning, allow them to run their own style, bring in their own coaches and stay the **** out of the way.

4. He needs to hire an analyst who is solely dedicated to understanding clock management and assist in that aspect of the game.

5. He needs to focus his efforts on what he is good at. Recruiting, facility upgrades, being a figurehead.

If he does not do the above, at best he is a 9-10 win coach in the ACC even with 85 5 stars on the roster. Dig deeper into his time at Oregon. In 3 of his 4 years, he managed two 4 loss seasons and one 3 loss season. He did that with his own, elite players. He did that at a time where the PAC 12 was at it's absolute worst in recent memory. USC was a **** show during his time there. Stanford was a **** show. Washingtown was down. The best competition was Utah and we saw what they did to Oregon twice last year, who had FAR SUPERIOR talent.

Mario lost 5 games in 4 years to opponents with sub .500 records while at Oregon. He was 7-7 against ranked opponents. He is NOT a good coach no matter how you look at it.

Look at how much better Oregon looks this year under Lanning versus how they looked last year under Mario. Lanning is getting way more out of that team compared to what Mario did. For example, Oregon has scored 40+ points in 8 straight games, has a bonafide top 10 offense and is a legitimate playoff contender. Mario managed to eclipse 40+ points 7 times in the 2021, 2020 and 2019 seasons combined! And in 2019 he had a generational QB in Justin Herbert.

Lanning, who is a defensive coach, has turned Oregon into a top offense in the country in year 1. How? Because he hired an OC who runs a more modern offense and gave him autonomy over the offense. And they are doing this with a QB they brought in, who was a bum before and have now resurrected into a likely Heisman finalist.

I mentioned this prior, when I read moronic posts about how it's not possible to turn a losing program around in 1 year, and showed just how many teams have accomplished that this year alone. TCU, USC and LSU are all top 8 teams in the country who all had losing records last year. Those results alone debunk that Mario needs years or his own players to have success. And if he does, he is a far worse coach than a lot of us already believed.

This off season will tell us everything we need to know about Mario and what his future will look like at UM. To me, it's really simple. I don't believe firing or moving on from a handful of current coaches is enough. I truly believe the entire staff needs to be gutted. Why? Becuase which truly, elite/great coordinators are okay with not choosing their own position coaches? As it is, it will be difficult IMO to bring in great coordinators after the **** show that has taken place this year, and the past 20 years of UM football, but you can't make it harder by not allowing those coordinators to bring in their own guys. He just made that mistake with this current staff. He cannot repeat it again.

Mario has a reputation of meddling to much in the coaching cirlces, so he needs to get the **** out of the way. Make sure he makes it clear that his coordinators will have full autonomy in every aspect of their side of the ball. If he is not able to do that, he will fail, it's that simple.

I am not absolving players of blame. There are plenty of guys who need to be told to seek shelter elsewhere and that is already in the works. I mentioned names prior who are already likely gone and that list continues to grow. 35-40 players from this current roster will be gone. So going into next season 80% of the roster will be Mario's own guys.

Lastly, this was where it should have been telling for any fan that was still on the fence regarding Gattis or just in general of the massive disconnect between this staff and the current players. Xavier Restrepo is the most respected and likeable young man on this roster. The young man is the hardest worker and shows the upmost respect to his teammates and coaches. I can say all of that unequivocally. When he flat out walked by and ignored Gattis on the sidelines yesterday, that was all you needed to see to know just how bad things really are inside that locker room.

If he gotta do all that we should just get a new HC

 

[STG]

Define Great Coach?

Great coach = 5 losses to sub .500 teams in 4 years at Oregon with an elite roster.

Great coach = .500 record against ranked opponents while at Oregon.

Great coach = two 4 loss seasons and one 3 loss season in 4 years at Oregon.

He wins 8 games here, he will believe he is great because supposedly our talent is so bad getting blown out by MTSU, DUKE and FSU should be expected. Not scoring a TD in 3 of 6 games against P5 opponents should be expected. Not scoring a TD in back to back games for the first time since 1964 should be expected. Losing 4 straight home games for the first time since 1973 should be expected.

 

[STG]

If he gotta do all that we should just get a new HC

I wouldn't be against that.

 

[JASONCOEM]

Good coaches follow successful sport programs. Great coaches invent new ones.

Great coach = 5 losses to sub .500 teams in 4 years at Oregon with an elite roster.

Great coach = .500 record against ranked opponents while at Oregon.

Great coach = two 4 loss seasons and one 3 loss season in 4 years at Oregon.

He wins 8 games here, he will believe he is great because supposedly our talent is so bad getting blown out by MTSU, DUKE and FSU should be expected. Not scoring a TD in 3 of 6 games against P5 opponents should be expected. Not scoring a TD in back to back games for the first time since 1964 should be expected. Losing 4 straight home games for the first time since 1973 should be expected.

That’s screams average Coach in a week conference with elite players and a 1st round qb