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This is Mario's reality

dirtyred786 said:
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Herbert has a passer rating of 97.9 with 9,350 yards, 69 touchdowns and 25 interceptions in 32 games in his first 2 seasons. Threw for 5000+ yards in year 2. The best first 2 years for a QB in NFL history.

I'm sorry, what do you call that?
 
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dirtyred786 said:
We were bottom of the barrel running the ball last year. Tvd didn't play the first part of the season. Even the great Lashlee couldn't make D'Eriq King into a good passer, so we struggled passing the ball until tvd got in so to say the production is the same through 8 games is a mute point. Those two receivers that didn't make NFL rosters were better than what we have now. That should show you how devoid of talent we are at the position. Yes he has an OC who is not good at calling plays. When you add that with the lack of talent, these are the results. Why do players in the NFL make so much more than coaches?
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I’m trying to remember a single play in the last two games when a receiver was wide open…
 
STG said:
The solution is simple. Mario needs to have multiple come to Jesus moments at this point in his career.

1. He needs to look in the mirror and say to himself, I suck as a gameday coach. I bring no value as an X's and O's guy. So I need to keep my opinion or beliefs out of what style of ball we play on O and D.

2. He needs to hire proven/elite coordinators, with recent success, who have unequivocally had that success on their own.

3. He needs to hire coordinators with modern schemes and give them full autonomy. Meaning, allow them to run their own style, bring in their own coaches and stay the **** out of the way.

4. He needs to hire an analyst who is solely dedicated to understanding clock management and assist in that aspect of the game.

5. He needs to focus his efforts on what he is good at. Recruiting, facility upgrades, being a figurehead.

If he does not do the above, at best he is a 9-10 win coach in the ACC even with 85 5 stars on the roster. Dig deeper into his time at Oregon. In 3 of his 4 years, he managed two 4 loss seasons and one 3 loss season. He did that with his own, elite players. He did that at a time where the PAC 12 was at it's absolute worst in recent memory. USC was a **** show during his time there. Stanford was a **** show. Washingtown was down. The best competition was Utah and we saw what they did to Oregon twice last year, who had FAR SUPERIOR talent.

Mario lost 5 games in 4 years to opponents with sub .500 records while at Oregon. He was 7-7 against ranked opponents. He is NOT a good coach no matter how you look at it.

Look at how much better Oregon looks this year under Lanning versus how they looked last year under Mario. Lanning is getting way more out of that team compared to what Mario did. For example, Oregon has scored 40+ points in 8 straight games, has a bonafide top 10 offense and is a legitimate playoff contender. Mario managed to eclipse 40+ points 7 times in the 2021, 2020 and 2019 seasons combined! And in 2019 he had a generational QB in Justin Herbert.

Lanning, who is a defensive coach, has turned Oregon into a top offense in the country in year 1. How? Because he hired an OC who runs a more modern offense and gave him autonomy over the offense. And they are doing this with a QB they brought in, who was a bum before and have now resurrected into a likely Heisman finalist.

I mentioned this prior, when I read moronic posts about how it's not possible to turn a losing program around in 1 year, and showed just how many teams have accomplished that this year alone. TCU, USC and LSU are all top 8 teams in the country who all had losing records last year. Those results alone debunk that Mario needs years or his own players to have success. And if he does, he is a far worse coach than a lot of us already believed.

This off season will tell us everything we need to know about Mario and what his future will look like at UM. To me, it's really simple. I don't believe firing or moving on from a handful of current coaches is enough. I truly believe the entire staff needs to be gutted. Why? Becuase which truly, elite/great coordinators are okay with not choosing their own position coaches? As it is, it will be difficult IMO to bring in great coordinators after the **** show that has taken place this year, and the past 20 years of UM football, but you can't make it harder by not allowing those coordinators to bring in their own guys. He just made that mistake with this current staff. He cannot repeat it again.

Mario has a reputation of meddling to much in the coaching cirlces, so he needs to get the **** out of the way. Make sure he makes it clear that his coordinators will have full autonomy in every aspect of their side of the ball. If he is not able to do that, he will fail, it's that simple.

I am not absolving players of blame. There are plenty of guys who need to be told to seek shelter elsewhere and that is already in the works. I mentioned names prior who are already likely gone and that list continues to grow. 35-40 players from this current roster will be gone. So going into next season 80% of the roster will be Mario's own guys.

Lastly, this was where it should have been telling for any fan that was still on the fence regarding Gattis or just in general of the massive disconnect between this staff and the current players. Xavier Restrepo is the most respected and likeable young man on this roster. The young man is the hardest worker and shows the upmost respect to his teammates and coaches. I can say all of that unequivocally. When he flat out walked by and ignored Gattis on the sidelines yesterday, that was all you needed to see to know just how bad things really are inside that locker room.
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Excellent post!

I’ve been shouting the same points from the rooftops for almost 2 months, but a lot of the board was still on board with Mario at that point.

There is no way to defend this **** show at this point.

Mario has to be decisive in his decisions and adapt quickly or fail miserably as a HC at Miami.

Fire the entire staph, including Mirabal. This isn’t high school. You’re not hired to bring your best buddy with you everywhere you go. He’s being paid 8 miilion a year to field a winning squad, on top of all of the huge financial investments that are being made to better the overall program.

He is too much of a control freak, so I doubt that he will change and adapt. But one can only hope that he has an epiphany and does what must be done. This is a multi-million dollar business, he needs to start running it as such.
 
STG said:
The solution is simple. Mario needs to have multiple come to Jesus moments at this point in his career.

1. He needs to look in the mirror and say to himself, I suck as a gameday coach. I bring no value as an X's and O's guy. So I need to keep my opinion or beliefs out of what style of ball we play on O and D.

2. He needs to hire proven/elite coordinators, with recent success, who have unequivocally had that success on their own.

3. He needs to hire coordinators with modern schemes and give them full autonomy. Meaning, allow them to run their own style, bring in their own coaches and stay the **** out of the way.

4. He needs to hire an analyst who is solely dedicated to understanding clock management and assist in that aspect of the game.

5. He needs to focus his efforts on what he is good at. Recruiting, facility upgrades, being a figurehead.

If he does not do the above, at best he is a 9-10 win coach in the ACC even with 85 5 stars on the roster. Dig deeper into his time at Oregon. In 3 of his 4 years, he managed two 4 loss seasons and one 3 loss season. He did that with his own, elite players. He did that at a time where the PAC 12 was at it's absolute worst in recent memory. USC was a **** show during his time there. Stanford was a **** show. Washingtown was down. The best competition was Utah and we saw what they did to Oregon twice last year, who had FAR SUPERIOR talent.

Mario lost 5 games in 4 years to opponents with sub .500 records while at Oregon. He was 7-7 against ranked opponents. He is NOT a good coach no matter how you look at it.

Look at how much better Oregon looks this year under Lanning versus how they looked last year under Mario. Lanning is getting way more out of that team compared to what Mario did. For example, Oregon has scored 40+ points in 8 straight games, has a bonafide top 10 offense and is a legitimate playoff contender. Mario managed to eclipse 40+ points 7 times in the 2021, 2020 and 2019 seasons combined! And in 2019 he had a generational QB in Justin Herbert.

Lanning, who is a defensive coach, has turned Oregon into a top offense in the country in year 1. How? Because he hired an OC who runs a more modern offense and gave him autonomy over the offense. And they are doing this with a QB they brought in, who was a bum before and have now resurrected into a likely Heisman finalist.

I mentioned this prior, when I read moronic posts about how it's not possible to turn a losing program around in 1 year, and showed just how many teams have accomplished that this year alone. TCU, USC and LSU are all top 8 teams in the country who all had losing records last year. Those results alone debunk that Mario needs years or his own players to have success. And if he does, he is a far worse coach than a lot of us already believed.

This off season will tell us everything we need to know about Mario and what his future will look like at UM. To me, it's really simple. I don't believe firing or moving on from a handful of current coaches is enough. I truly believe the entire staff needs to be gutted. Why? Becuase which truly, elite/great coordinators are okay with not choosing their own position coaches? As it is, it will be difficult IMO to bring in great coordinators after the **** show that has taken place this year, and the past 20 years of UM football, but you can't make it harder by not allowing those coordinators to bring in their own guys. He just made that mistake with this current staff. He cannot repeat it again.

Mario has a reputation of meddling to much in the coaching cirlces, so he needs to get the **** out of the way. Make sure he makes it clear that his coordinators will have full autonomy in every aspect of their side of the ball. If he is not able to do that, he will fail, it's that simple.

I am not absolving players of blame. There are plenty of guys who need to be told to seek shelter elsewhere and that is already in the works. I mentioned names prior who are already likely gone and that list continues to grow. 35-40 players from this current roster will be gone. So going into next season 80% of the roster will be Mario's own guys.

Lastly, this was where it should have been telling for any fan that was still on the fence regarding Gattis or just in general of the massive disconnect between this staff and the current players. Xavier Restrepo is the most respected and likeable young man on this roster. The young man is the hardest worker and shows the upmost respect to his teammates and coaches. I can say all of that unequivocally. When he flat out walked by and ignored Gattis on the sidelines yesterday, that was all you needed to see to know just how bad things really are inside that locker room.
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Find another team crybaby
 
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dirtyred786 said:
So when we get a new OC, we will win the ACC with the same players we have now?
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Who says we can’t? Have you seen the list of teams that have won the ACC while we have been in the conference? The issues aren’t just in play calling on both sides of the ball. We have to start playing with some kind of pace, we can’t keep wasting TO’s, we can’t keep getting delay of game penalties on punts, we need to start doing the little things correctly that start with good coaching. You can argue about talent all you want but not being able to make it to the 2nd and 4th quarters of games with your TO’s and not being able to get more than 30 yards in 3 minutes of time in a hurry up offense is concerning and falls on coaching and preparing this team.
 
Manny and Lashlee couldn't win big with this teams. Mario and Gattis can't win with them. So who do we get now that can with them. I'm just curious.
 
bobbo31 said:
Who says we can’t? Have you seen the list of teams that have won the ACC while we have been in the conference? The issues aren’t just in play calling on both sides of the ball. We have to start playing with some kind of pace, we can’t keep wasting TO’s, we can’t keep getting delay of game penalties on punts, we need to start doing the little things correctly that start with good coaching. You can argue about talent all you want but not being able to make it to the 2nd and 4th quarters of games with your TO’s and not being able to get more than 30 yards in 3 minutes of time in a hurry up offense is concerning and falls on coaching and preparing this team.
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So who is our next savior coach?
 
dirtyred786 said:
Manny and Lashlee couldn't win big with this teams. Mario and Gattis can't win with them. So who do we get now that can with them. I'm just curious.
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Manny wasn’t and isn’t a good head coach that’s why he is back as a DC and not a HC somewhere. You know who wins with the talent that they have? Lane ******* Kiffin.
 
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We have a salesman for a football coach. Eventually, the recruits will stop buying his bull****, and the $ will stop coming. Whats excuse going to be next year? Going to tell recruits come get early PT because our players are trash? Going to tell the corners come take Mcclains spot because he keeps getting burned? Come take Francis spot because hes trash?
 
dirtyred786 said:
So who is our next savior coach?
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Give me Lane Kiffin, give me Dave clawson, even give me Schiano, he has already made Rutgers competitive again, I’m not sure we are in the national title picture with Schiano but at least we would always be competitive, play hard, consistently win 9-11 games a year and compete.
 
dirtyred786 said:
Hey thats who I wanted but I got drug on here for it, lol
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So dude what are you ******* defending? Have you looked at Kiffin’s coaching record? He has consistently turned teams around in his first year, at FAU he took a 3-9 team under Charlie Partridge (up there with the best recruiters in the game and talent evaluators in the game) and turned it into an 11-3 team with a blowout bowl win in his first year and had that team playing as good as any group of 5 team in the country. He turned around Ole miss quickly as well. So the “guy you wanted” has a history of turning around programs very quickly.

It’s comical you have been fighting us on here that things have to get worse before they become better.
 
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