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Florido said:
Marco Rubio just said in cabinet meeting that, even though he's a gator, if University of Miami gets screwed over by putting ND in CFP ahead of Miami then Trump should do CFP next year. Trump just smiled. He didn't say anything about his granddaughter getting golf scholarship to Miami. I liked Marco bringing it up.
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Nice. Who's ponying up for the gold Sebastian statue to provide to the President so Miami is guaranteed a spot in the CFP next year?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
To be fair, I think the main discourse has been "penalized". You will not be penalized for losing your conference champ. I'm not trying to be a smart-***, but I don't think SMU or Penn State were penalized for losing. They both still got into the playoff, even though they were dropped 1 or 2 spots in the final ranking.
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But SMU and Pedo State were not "penalized" BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ON THE BUBBLE.

I realize we've only been at "12 teams" for one whole year, but this is how it works in basketball. There are teams that are safe, probably Top 4 seeds, regardless of whether they win their conference tournaments. And there are teams that are "on the bubble" and can either play their way INTO the NCAA tournament with a good conference tournament, or play themselves OUT of the NCAAs with a first-round exit from their confererence tournament.

I would say that this is the future of the NCAA football post-season if I actually thought that conference tournament games (at least for the P4) will last. They will not last, though. When the CFP moves to 24 teams, the P4 championship games will disappear.

So you'll forgive me if I don't shed any tears for the weepy Alabama line of "if you penalize Alabama, then you punish conference championship game participants" or the equally weepy Texas line of "if you penalize Texas, nobody will play quality OOC games".

Both Alabama and Texas can burn in ****. Maybe, just maybe, TRY WINNING MORE THAN 75% OF YOUR GAMES. Or maybe, just maybe, TRY NOT LOSING TO 5-7 FSU OR 4-8 FLORIDA. Particularly since Miami beat BOTH of those cupcakes.

Playing games, ALL GAMES, should have consequences, both good or bad, whether that game is in Week 1 or it is the conference championship. There is no pre-season. There are no exhibition games.

I'm sure that if Alabama were to beat Georgia on Saturday, they would be happy to put the trophy in their trophy case and update their Wikipedia page to trumpet "yet another" conference championship.

It's not my fault that Alabama is on the literal bubble of making (or not making) the CFP field. They are #10 when there are two other teams guaranteed to make the Top 12 from much lower in the rankings. Just as in NCAA basketball, there are sometimes horrible Automatic Qualifier teams that win unlikely conference tournaments. But being #10 in the CFP is ON THE BUBBLE. And bubbles burst sometimes.

**** Alabama and **** Texas. They don't deserve to be in the Top 10, not while there are more qualified teams with better resumes being left outside the Top 10.

Facts.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
But SMU and Pedo State were not "penalized" BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ON THE BUBBLE.

I realize we've only been at "12 teams" for one whole year, but this is how it works in basketball. There are teams that are safe, probably Top 4 seeds, regardless of whether they win their conference tournaments. And there are teams that are "on the bubble" and can either play their way INTO the NCAA tournament with a good conference tournament, or play themselves OUT of the NCAAs with a first-round exit from their confererence tournament.

I would say that this is the future of the NCAA football post-season if I actually thought that conference tournament games (at least for the P4) will last. They will not last, though. When the CFP moves to 24 teams, the P4 championship games will disappear.

So you'll forgive me if I don't shed any tears for the weepy Alabama line of "if you penalize Alabama, then you punish conference championship game participants" or the equally weepy Texas line of "if you penalize Texas, nobody will play quality OOC games".

Both Alabama and Texas can burn in ****. Maybe, just maybe, TRY WINNING MORE THAN 75% OF YOUR GAMES. Or maybe, just maybe, TRY NOT LOSING TO 5-7 FSU OR 4-8 FLORIDA. Particularly since Miami beat BOTH of those cupcakes.

Playing games, ALL GAMES, should have consequences, both good or bad, whether that game is in Week 1 or it is the conference championship. There is no pre-season. There are no exhibition games.

I'm sure that if Alabama were to beat Georgia on Saturday, they would be happy to put the trophy in their trophy case and update their Wikipedia page to trumpet "yet another" conference championship.

It's not my fault that Alabama is on the literal bubble of making (or not making) the CFP field. They are #10 when there are two other teams guaranteed to make the Top 12 from much lower in the rankings. Just as in NCAA basketball, there are sometimes horrible Automatic Qualifier teams that win unlikely conference tournaments. But being #10 in the CFP is ON THE BUBBLE. And bubbles burst sometimes.

**** Alabama and **** Texas. They don't deserve to be in the Top 10, not while there are more qualified teams with better resumes being left outside the Top 10.

Facts.
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You're literally yelling at a group of people who agree with you. Nobody is disputing any of this. Write this in an email to the CFP. My point stands: I'll believe they penalize Alabama when I see it. IMO, it ain't happening.

But regardless, this is moot. We know how this is going to play out. We've had about 46 different ways we could've been helped in the past month, and not a **** one of them actually happened. So guess what? Bama wins on Saturday. Because we need the opposite.
 
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SFbayCane said:
The theory is that should Duke win, the ACC will not be represented in the playoffs if they do not select Miami. That will give merit to Miami over some other team. My best guess is Ole Miss.
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But here's the thing. I don't think some last-minute "sympathy vote" is going to beat an "I want five SEC teams, dammit" demand from Sankey.

Either the CFP has to prepare NOW to "only" take 4 SEC teams or else we are toast. And if the CFP is willing to slide Miami ahead of Alabama, then that will mean ONLY 4 teams for the SEC (they had 3 last year) and POSSIBLY two teams for the ACC.

And actually, that was the outcome last year. 2 ACC teams and 3 SEC teams. This year, you could easily have 2 ACC teams and 4 SEC teams. But I do not believe for a moment that one brief outburst of sympathy for Miami is going to get Miami in. It's gonna require an Alabama loss as well, and the UVa-Duke game will have no bearing on any of this.
 
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