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aleahy said:
No one should be surprised if Auburn beats Alabama. That is always a tough game and Bama under Deboar hasn’t been good on the road. Auburn has played a lot of tough games and look better since Freeze was removed.
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Im worried what the committee does with BYU this week. An auburn win might not be enough for us.
 
USC’s and GT’s losses opened up something major for us. They ranked a 7-3 Texas above a 8-2 Michigan because Texas beat their mutual opponent in OU. Now they are 8-3 and 9-2.

I feel like they wanna see how Michigan does against OSU before jumping them, because in the event Texas beats A&M + Michigan beats OSU; they’d rank Texas higher than Michigan. Not a guarantee though.

anyways back to my main point: they now have to compare Texas and Vandy in the same 3-team love is blind bull**** pods that they do. Are they going to look Texas in the face and say **** you?

Because they need to keep Texas below Vandy in order to shut Miami down; at least logically. If they put Texas above Vandy, because they won H2H despite an extra loss, then they are going to keep getting vitriol spat at them by fans/media.

The clearest example I can find is at once point last year, Louisville just beat Clemson and they was ranked 19th at 6-3 (losses to Miami, SMU, and Notre Dame) over 20th 7-2 Clemson (Louisville and UGA). The week before, Louisville was 6-3 at 22nd and Clemson was 6-2 at 23rd.

May be the best signal that they are about to put Texas above Vandy; which, makes me feel a little better about getting into that top ten if we beat Pitt. Still too stressful & not confident tho
 
cookies said:
USC’s and GT’s losses opened up something major for us. They ranked a 7-3 Texas above a 8-2 Michigan because Texas beat their mutual opponent in OU. Now they are 8-3 and 9-2.

I feel like they wanna see how Michigan does against OSU before jumping them, because in the event Texas beats A&M + Michigan beats OSU; they’d rank Texas higher than Michigan. Not a guarantee though.

anyways back to my main point: they now have to compare Texas and Vandy in the same 3-team love is blind bull**** pods that they do. Are they going to look Texas in the face and say **** you?

Because they need to keep Texas below Vandy in order to shut Miami down; at least logically. If they put Texas above Vandy, because they won H2H despite an extra loss, then they are going to keep getting vitriol spat at them by fans/media.

The clearest example I can find is at once point last year, Louisville just beat Clemson and they was ranked 19th at 6-3 (losses to Miami, SMU, and Notre Dame) over 20th 7-2 Clemson (Louisville and UGA). The week before, Louisville was 6-3 at 22nd and Clemson was 6-2 at 23rd.

May be the best signal that they are about to put Texas above Vandy; which, makes me feel a little better about getting into that top ten if we beat Pitt. Still too stressful & not confident tho
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Texas has an extra loss, so technically head to head doesn’t matter until Vandy drops a 3rd game.
 
Genghis Cane said:
Texas has an extra loss, so technically head to head doesn’t matter until Vandy drops a 3rd game.
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Well we don’t really know if that will stick. We can find out this week.

My point is that they already have Texas above Michigan, and they have put 6-3 Louisville ahead of 6-2 & 7-2 Clemson on back to back weeks.

There’s nothing stopping them from going 1st. 8-3 Texas 2nd. 9-2 Vandy 3rd. 9-2 Michigan.

They had a 9-1 GT below a 8-2 USC; but above 7-3 Texas & 8-2 Michigan, last week as well.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
Yes we are rooting for Wake, VT and Cal.

But I don’t think enough people are talking about this - Here’s our most direct and likely path - we’re almost assuredly in over Duke in this scenario. Sport Source is all encompassing data, not solely conference-related. We want NC State to win because of H2H conference opponent winning %.

VT win and we’re very alive. View attachment 343710View attachment 343714

If anyone wants to play around with the site we use, I’ll attach it below.

mred's ACC FB Standings Generator

Atlantic Coast Conference Football Standings with Tiebreakers
bball.notnothing.net
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Its definitely in our best interest to just have UVA lose. That's THE KEY.
For our At-Large hopes we want SMU to remain a top 25 team - which I think they enter around 23 this week. I mean obviously if SMU lost and we got in the ACC CG I'm not going to complain, then it's entirely in our own hands. But for the highest probability of us being in the CFP it's maximizing our At-Large and ACC hopes.... Then again I'd rather play UVA in the ACC CG than SMU lol

Another small little under the radar thing would be Louisville beating Kentucky, GTech beating UGA, Clemson beating South Carolina, and FSU beating UF. Get the ACC a SEC sweep and it really elevates our SOS by a lot I'd bet. Every little thing can be the straw that breaks us into the top 10...
 
obviously if someone ahead of us loses it'll be the best case scenario

but here's a very likely scenario in my eyes and it's still one that ultimately has us in a relatively good position (considering)


1. Miami jumps Utah Tuesday to get to #12
2. Bama wins the SEC, A&M stays IN with just 1 loss, so bama jumps ND, ND is now #10
3. BYU goes to b12 title game and loses for 2nd time to TTU, BYU is OUT
so..
ND #10, Miami #11

now I dont think ND is getting left out

but if we're within 1 spot (or even 2 of ND)

I do think we both get In
 
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What I think it Will be:
Tier 1/ Playoff Locks:
1. Ohio St
2. Indiana
3. Texas A&M
4. UGA
5. TTU
6. Oregon

Tier 1B/ Shouldn't be nearly this high, but is a lock if they win
7. Ole Miss

Tier 2/Committee has a lot of Wiggle Room. For instance putting ND high enough to eliminate Miami from a H2H tie-breaker
8. Notre Dame
9. Oklahoma
10. Alabama
11. BYU
12. Miami
13. Utah
14. Vanderbilt

Tier 3/With a Big win could leapfrog in
15. Texas
16. Michigan
17. Tennessee

Tier 4/Out *unless conf champ* But Used as Artificial Resume Boosters for teams ahead
18. UVA
19. USC
20. ASU
21. Washington
22. Arizona
23. Pitt
24. SMU

Tier 5/ Place Holders and Resume boosters.
25. Tulane
26. North Texas / Missouri / Iowa / LSU / JMU
 
The game we MOST NEED are OU and Bama to lose.

IF BYU plays TTU in B12 Champ game and loses and we are just 1 slot behind them, I think we can jump them as long as they don't lose very close.
 
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canes_aaron said:
I would think even if Bama beats auburn, but loses in the sec champ game, they would be out, no?
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I wouldn’t be so sure. Bama lost to OU late last year for their third loss and looked horrific doing it. You still had people saying they should get in, and they almost did.
 
I read yesterday that we don't need Duke to lose, we would win the tiebreaker against them if NC State beats UNC, which should be very likely. Is that not true?
 
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