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MEGA There’s Still Hope for the ACCCG/CFB Playoffs Mega Merge Thread

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arwinga said:
As said before we have to get to 10, I can see us getting to 11 by jumping Utah and BYU….. but how do we get to 10?! Not jumping bama or ND
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1. Winning the ACC — very unlikely
2. OU or Bama losing
3. Oregon beating SC Saturday and losing to Washington in the final week
4. BYU losing Saturday to Cincy or getting blown out by Texas Tech in the Big 12 championship

We don’t need all of these things to happen, but if we say #1 is slim to none, we need at least 2 of the other 3 to happen.

Saturday is big, obviously. It’s crunch time. We need to win by 3 scores at least, BYU losing to Cincy would be amazing (they’re only -2.5 at Nippert), OU losing to Mizzou would be a godsend, and someone is going to lose the Oregon vs SC game, so let’s root for Oregon to win and then lose to Washington next week.

Got a headache yet?

Alabama really, really ****ed us on Saturday. If they just beat OU like they should have, we’re at 12 right now with Utah, BYU, and Oregon all having a chance to fall below us over the last 2 weeks. Now we have to jump all 3, or OU/Bama have to lose.
 
Genghis Cane said:
Need 3 of these 4 to lose:

OU
Bama
BYU
Utah

Tough sledding. But doable.

We might be able to hop Utah by winning out, but that’s it. We need help.
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I think we jump Utah unless they absolutely hammer KSU and Kansas. BYU has a sneaky game vs Cincy. It’ll be interesting to see how the committee would evaluate Bama losing in the SECCG. There’s a pretty plausible scenario UGA plays Bama. If Bama loses that game, how does the committee view them? It killed us losing late in the year.
 
CanesDynasty said:
Oklahoma losing 1 of their final 2 games
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but if they move ND to 8 we're still screwed

they apparently only compare teams 9-12

we need to swap with ND or get to 10

if ND is 8 and we're 12 we won't be compared and we we're out. if ND is 9 and we're 12, then what? idk
 
arwinga said:
As said before we have to get to 10, I can see us getting to 11 by jumping Utah and BYU….. but how do we get to 10?! Not jumping bama or ND
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Idk man. The chair sounded like they’d jump us over ND if push came to shove. I wonder what happens if it’s us, ND, Bama for that last spot. Our losses may be worse, but we beat ND and FSU. I don’t care if those losses for ND and Bama happened week 1. It has to mean something.
 
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It seems the ACC is going hard for us. Anyone think they can influence the games needed to get us to the ACC championship game to give us a shot to clinch?

Also Texas tech could theoretically pack it in and get 2 big 12 teams if they let utah/BYU win the big 12 title game and block us and bama from getting in the playoffs in favor of 2 big 12 teams.

Texas dropped massively and so did bama. A loss for either ole miss, bama or OU gets us in I would think as well...

If oregon loses to USC could ***** us as well if the comitte ranks USC and oregon both above us after that.

Too many variables at play. I think now our best bet is for the ACC championship game path.
 
407cane said:
but if they move ND to 8 we're still screwed

they apparently only compare teams 9-12

we need to swap with ND or get to 10

if ND is 8 and we're 12 we won't be compared and we we're out. if ND is 9 and we're 12, then what? idk
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But if we can jump BYU and Utah we’d be at 11. If OU does lose we’d get to 10. If we get idgaf about ND. We aren’t hosting a game unless we sneak into the ACCCG and absolutely hammer whoever we play.
 
hasena75 said:
Greg Mcilroy or whatever on espn just said that you’re looking for a point of comparison for Miami and Notre Dame and that common opponent is Pitt…..

If only there was a MORE DEFINITIVE point of comparison between Miami and ND…………..
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Then there's...
Miami vs NC St. (halfway through the 3rd):
31-0
ND vs NC St, (halfway through the 3rd):
10-7
 
arwinga said:
As said before we have to get to 10, I can see us getting to 11 by jumping Utah and BYU….. but how do we get to 10?! Not jumping bama or ND
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Moving up one spot puts us in the same tier as ND and the H2H becomes a factor. We are ranked where we are right now to avoid having to factor it in. But if it comes down to us or them, I think they know they would face too much backlash for not honoring the H2H.
 
NJshoreCane said:
Then there's...
Miami vs NC St. (halfway through the 3rd):
31-0
ND vs NC St, (halfway through the 3rd):
10-7
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Not to mention two weeks removed from beating GT. So they had an entire week to prepare and they under 100 yards until that garbage TD with our reserves in the game. ND was ahead 12-10 until :32 in the third against BC. Just seems like their losses are freaking propping them up to an absolutely insane degree.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
****, I had this on a spreadsheet at home (go ahead and make fun of me!) and I'm at work right now.

In a 3-way tie, you would have to go beyond the first criterion (point a), which is "head-to-head" when everyone plays everyone. Miami not playing UVa forces us to the next requirement.

Without redoing all the work (for now), it would then move to records against COMMON OPPONENTS. This is where I pointed out that UVa is damaged by LOSING TO NC STATE, which was NOT a conference game, but WOULD count when evaluating common opponents.

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Within b, with the 3 teams you mentioned (UVa, UM, and SMU), UVa did not play UM or SMU. UM only lost to SMU. SMU only beat UM. So, again, within b, you do not have EITHER a tied team which beat the other two tied teams OR a tied team which LOST to the other tied teams, thus the criterion b would not be met in a way that eliminates any team.

Moving to criterion c, in my original example, I did not have SMU in the mix. SMU did NOT play NC State, so you can't use NC State for this one. I believe that the TWO common opponents for UVa, SMU, and UM would be Stanford and Louisville. UVa and SMU each won both of those games, while Miami lost to Louisville. So on criterion c, Miami would be ELIMINATED.

Then, there would be a 2-team tie between UVa and SMU which would be broken by the "2 team tie" rules.
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The Eliminated part under C was my confusion, I ran a few different ACC predictors, and they all had Miami as the tie breaker, so I figured, it went to tie breaker E, The ACC site doesn't seem to have clear language on it.

I am going to assume you are correct, and I apologize for posting you were wrong. Appreciate the response back.
 
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