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MEGA There’s Still Hope for the ACCCG/CFB Playoffs Mega Merge Thread

ST26 said:
The problem is who are they leaving out? Our only chance is if they throw us a bone and put us in over ND, which is likely not happening. We need an all time collapse by Oklahoma and/or Bama
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All valid points. I just believe they want us in this year. The TV ratings from our big games this year could help us get in
 
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ALLoverCANE said:
ND has the better resume that we do at the moment.

Best win is comparable: #9 at home vs #15 at home. Their losses are dramatically better: #3 and #14, instead of unranked. Their best G5 win (Navy) just beat our best G5 win (USF), and their best road win (Pitt) beat our best road win (FSU.) They're 4 spots ahead of us in SOR.

That's not close enough for the committee to use the H2H tiebreaker.
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WE BEAT THEM!!

The only common opponent we share, WE BEAT BY MORE!!
 
ALLoverCANE said:
ND has the better resume that we do at the moment.

Best win is comparable: #9 at home vs #15 at home. Their losses are dramatically better: #3 and #14, instead of unranked. Their best G5 win (Navy) just beat our best G5 win (USF), and their best road win (Pitt) beat our best road win (FSU.) They're 4 spots ahead of us in SOR.

That's not close enough for the committee to use the H2H tiebreaker.
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No they don’t lol. You keep on moping about, ignoring miami’s resume, and completely inflate theirs. We have more ranked wins, the head to head, and a common opponent we beat worse. You’re entire argument boils down to valuing theirs better losses over a head to head win we have
 
FL Cane said:
No they don’t lol. You keep on moping about, ignoring miami’s resume, and completely inflate theirs. We have more ranked wins, the head to head, and a common opponent we beat worse. You’re entire argument boils down to valuing theirs better losses over a head to head win we have
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1) we have the same amount of ranked wins (1)
2) yes, having 2 unranked losses vs 0 is a big difference
3) they have the better SOR
4) the committee has repeatedly said that H2H is only a tie breaker
 
AP

1. Ohio State

2. Indiana

3. Texas A&M

4. Georgia

5. Ole Miss

6. Texas Tech

6. Oregon

8. Oklahoma

9. Notre Dame

10. Alabama

11. BYU

12. Vanderbilt

13. Utah

14. Miami (Fla.)

15. Georgia Tech

16. USC

17. Texas

18. Michigan

19. Virginia

20. Tennessee

21. James Madison

22. North Texas

23. Missouri

24. Tulane

25. Houston
 
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canesd said:
They asked for more dominance and Miami gave it to them beyond what they could have expected, especially for a team coming off a bye week who just dominated Georgia Tech and beat UVA. Miami has a massive ceiling, a top 5 defense and have not been blown out in 3 years. They are in the same pod as ND and have the head to head. No real debate. They should do it now and just say Miami beat ND head to head and if they win their last 4, especially the way they won the last 2, they are in over ND. The media should be all over it but they will not as it now seems more real and they will back track based on Miami hate and ND love.

1. Ohio State
2. Indiana
3. Texas A&M
4. Georgia
5. Texas Tech
6. Ole Miss
7. Oregon
8. OU
9. Bama (even though they lost to FSU)
10. Miami
11. ND
12. BYU
13. Utah
14. Vandy
15. USC
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The CFP Committee has made it abundantly clear that they don't respect us or the ACC. You're completely detached from reality if you think they are going to vault us 5 spots based off a win over NC State. I'm not happy about it either, but it's the truth. We need teams above us to lose.
 
LA\^/ said:
AP

1. Ohio State

2. Indiana

3. Texas A&M

4. Georgia

5. Ole Miss

6. Texas Tech

6. Oregon

8. Oklahoma

9. Notre Dame

10. Alabama

11. BYU

12. Vanderbilt

13. Utah

14. Miami (Fla.)

15. Georgia Tech

16. USC

17. Texas

18. Michigan

19. Virginia

20. Tennessee

21. James Madison

22. North Texas

23. Missouri

24. Tulane

25. Houston
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Lol @ Tennessee still being ranked. This is why Bama will get in with 2 losses. Thats a “good ranked win” for them, when in reality they aren’t a top 30 team in America. Same with Missouri for that matter, it’s a joke.
 
canesd said:
They asked for more dominance and Miami gave it to them beyond what they could have expected, especially for a team coming off a bye week who just dominated Georgia Tech and beat UVA. Miami has a massive ceiling, a top 5 defense and have not been blown out in 3 years. They are in the same pod as ND and have the head to head. No real debate. They should do it now and just say Miami beat ND head to head and if they win their last 4, especially the way they won the last 2, they are in over ND. The media should be all over it but they will not as it now seems more real and they will back track based on Miami hate and ND love.

1. Ohio State
2. Indiana
3. Texas A&M
4. Georgia
5. Texas Tech
6. Ole Miss
7. Oregon
8. OU
9. Bama (even though they lost to FSU)
10. Miami
11. ND
12. BYU
13. Utah
14. Vandy
15. USC
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The thing is people don’t know how the committee actually works or how at least they’re supposed to work. They’re supposed to start from scratch again this week because all of the metrics they’re supposed to use beyond watching the games in the eye test all have changed.

Yes, a team like Utah, for example does not have a win like Miami versus Notre Dame, but you would be surprised to learn that the FPI, of which they use a version, has Utah four or five spots ahead of us and on strength of record, they are right next to us.

On remaining strength of schedule teams can vary a lot.

Notre Dame’s remaining strength of schedule as an example, though I do not think we are going to be in us vs them competition as much as we should be, is around an 89 in Miami is like a 47.

To whatever degree they weigh any of these and truly do start with the metrics having reset because games that weren’t even on our radar impact a strength of schedule, strength of record, FPI metric etc remains to be seen

I do not believe at all that Miami winning out alone is enough to make it. We need several things to happen, including one or two that are not even like 50-50 options.
 
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It’s looking bleak if we are still ranked behind: Vandy, ‘Bama, ND, Utah and BYU. That might be insurmountable.

There is also zero reason for Houston to be a dozen spots below Utah. You just can’t explain that lmao
 
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ALLoverCANE said:
ND has the better resume that we do at the moment.

Best win is comparable: #9 at home vs #15 at home. Their losses are dramatically better: #3 and #14, instead of unranked. Their best G5 win (Navy) just beat our best G5 win (USF), and their best road win (Pitt) beat our best road win (FSU.) They're 4 spots ahead of us in SOR.

That's not close enough for the committee to use the H2H tiebreaker.
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They shouldn’t be by the Committee’s standard. Head to head is the first tiebreaker. And I am also certain that they will ignore their own standard and put them in ahead of us in a tie situation. We should then bring a federal anti-trust suit for unfair competition in a monopoly situation.
 
cookies said:
It’s looking bleak if we are still ranked behind: Vandy, ‘Bama, ND, Utah and BYU. That might be insurmountable.

There is also zero reason for Houston to be a dozen spots below Utah. You just can’t explain that lmao
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In fairness, the pollsters tend to just move teams up and down without putting much thought into it. At least the committee appears to evaluate resumes every week.
 
YUMU said:
Most by refs obviously

But ..

2000 season
We could argue also leaving the best O in the country last year out if it
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Last year we avoided getting hoed fr because Clemson beat SMU. If that didn’t happen then we would have had a gripe. The committee showed us that they will hoe us if it came down to it though; that’s been the overcorrection this year. Additionally, with a XII commish running the show; they’ve gotten an unnecessary boost while our whole conference is ignored.
 
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