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MEGA There’s Still Hope for the ACCCG/CFB Playoffs Mega Merge Thread

F-MarioCristobal said:
Miami or Virginia are the only locks to make the playoffs if they win out. SMU, Pitt, and Duke would likely still be behind the Sun Belt and American champs and get left out entirely.

If the conference WANTS to make something happen, they sweeten it for those 2 teams. It should be easy to do for Duke vs Wake as it will likely be close. A call or 2 probably sways it.

Gonna need Cal and VT to make things close enough just to make it possible. Even Pitt/Miami.. might as well just favor Miami because Pitt winning that game still has slim chance to make the ACCCG if SMU/UVA also win.

Seems to me they intentionally scheduled games in the order they need to fall. Miami/Pitt first. If Pitt wins, just let the chips fall for the favored teams the rest of the day. If Miami wins - Duke and Wake at 3:30 so now we know we need to orchestrate the Duke loss. Then UVA/VT at 7:30, see if VT can be in the game early - more explanatory for VT to beat UVA like they always do than Cal beating SMU....If VT can't do it, make the call to the Ref out in Berkley that we have to keep Cal in this one at 8PM.
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Wait a second. I’ve missed a lot of the post regarding ACC.

You are saying that an ACC champ could be left out of the playoff?

I thought ACC Champ, regardless of who it is, gets an automatic bid in the top 12?
 
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PIPO said:
Wait a second. I’ve missed a lot of the post regarding ACC.

You are saying that an ACC champ could be left out of the playoff?

I thought ACC Champ, regardless of who it is, gets an automatic bid in the top 12?
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Nope.

There are five autobids, that will go to the five highest of:

SEC
Big 10
ACC
Big 12
Any G5/G6 conference (multiple)

Thus, if TWO G5/G6 conference champs are ranked higher than the ACC champ (i.e., Tulane-AAC and James Madison-Sunbelt), the ACC champ does not get an autobid. The autobids would go to the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, AAC, and Sunbelt.

Look at the seedings. Miami is included IF IF IF it wins the ACC. We might SEPARATELY get an at-large bid. However, to get an at-large, we likely need to be in the Top 10.
 
rvalenza said:
WTF are we talking about??? Cheating so the ACC can put out a better team? This is what's it's come down to in college ball?
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With the playoff revenue and the ongoing playoff discussions about auto bids and heavily favoring the SEC/B1G... the ACC would be stupid not to. If they're not cheating for Miami, Ok... but they better find a 100% fool proof way to on Saturday to ensure Duke doesn't win the conference or even make the conference championship game or this conference completely done for. For good.

The best thing for the conference is Virginia or SMU wins out and makes the playoff and Miami sneaks into one of the at large spots. The problem with SMU is they may not be guaranteed a spot even if they win out. The American champion will be adding another ranked win to their resume as well. Will be tough to jump them and JMU.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Nope.

There are four autobids, that will go to the four highest of:

SEC
Big 10
ACC
Big 12
Any G5/G6 conference

Thus, if a G5/G6 conference champ is ranked higher than the ACC champ, the ACC champ does not get an autobid.
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OMG!

LMFAO!! I am here for this if it’s not Miami.

I want to see USF ahead of the ACC. So that way we have beaten 2 of the representatives of the college playoff (ND and USF) in there so that ESPN and the BCS committee is further exposed.
 
Empirical Cane said:
I was disappointed in the lack of scenario content on CIS, so I felt compelled to fill the gap for you mouth breathers and drop the knowledge bomb.

You're welcome.


- Miami must win. Duh, Capt Obvious...


- SMU wins, Duke and Virginia lose:
-- Miami vs. SMU in ACCCG no matter of NC State-UNC and Syracuse-Boston College


- Duke wins, SMU and Virginia lose:
-- Miami vs. Duke in ACCCG IF NC State also beats UNC...Big Manny v Little Manny Bowl throwdown!


- Virginia wins, Duke and SMU lose:
- Miami vs. Virginia ACCCG IF both Syracuse beats Boston College and NC State beats UNC


-Duke, SMU and Virginia all lose:
-- Miami sneaks into ACCCG IF one of Syracuse or NC State wins its regular-season finale...permutations are...
---Syracuse win and NC State loss: Virginia vs. Miami
---NC State win and Syracuse loss: Miami vs. Georgia Tech
---NC State and Syracuse lose: Virginia vs. Miami, Georgia Tech or SMU...all in three-way tie for slot decided by SportSource Rating Score...wtf! 🤷‍♂️
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I'll take the 1st team All Big East Offensive Lineman, over tbe guy who only played with himself in college.
 
PIPO said:
OMG!

LMFAO!! I am here for this if it’s not Miami.

I want to see USF ahead of the ACC. So that way we have beaten 2 of the representatives of the college playoff (ND and USF) in there so that ESPN and the BCS committee is further exposed.
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Sorry, I edited after I first posted. Five autobids, and the ACC champ (Duke?) could be aced out by the AAC champ (Tulane?) and the Sunbelt champ (James Madison?), both of whom are ranked.
 
F-MarioCristobal said:
Miami or Virginia are the only locks to make the playoffs if they win out. SMU, Pitt, and Duke would likely still be behind the Sun Belt and American champs and get left out entirely.

If the conference WANTS to make something happen, they sweeten it for those 2 teams. It should be easy to do for Duke vs Wake as it will likely be close. A call or 2 probably sways it.

Gonna need Cal and VT to make things close enough just to make it possible. Even Pitt/Miami.. might as well just favor Miami because Pitt winning that game still has slim chance to make the ACCCG if SMU/UVA also win.

Seems to me they intentionally scheduled games in the order they need to fall. Miami/Pitt first. If Pitt wins, just let the chips fall for the favored teams the rest of the day. If Miami wins - Duke and Wake at 3:30 so now we know we need to orchestrate the Duke loss. Then UVA/VT at 7:30, see if VT can be in the game early - more explanatory for VT to beat UVA like they always do than Cal beating SMU....If VT can't do it, make the call to the Ref out in Berkley that we have to keep Cal in this one at 8PM.
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You are giving far too much credit to the bumbling idiots that run the ACC...........
 
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ST26 said:
We could go out and beat Pitt 100-0, and I still don’t think it would matter to the committee. Unfortunately, I simply just don’t see a world where they put us in over ND. ESPN won’t allow them too
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Hence the framing of "Miami survives scare" and all the hype of how ND made a statement.
 
rvalenza said:
WTF are we talking about??? Cheating so the ACC can put out a better team? This is what's it's come down to in college ball?
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Did watch KSU vs Utah? Or Ole **** vs UF a couple weeks ago? (picking up the PI flag like it never happened lol)

Conferences don’t need to directly tell the refs to cheat. The refs work for the conferences. They know how much money and prestige playoff berths bring to their respective conferences. When it becomes clear which teams are in contention, the leading teams get the Jordan Rules. The ACC is literally the ONLY conference where its refs actively undermine the top teams.

Sometimes the favorable calls are blatant like the Ole Miss game. But let’s hypothetically say we had refs like the other conferences. In the SMU game, they call a bunch of holds on the SMU OL in the latter part of the game (holding Bain all game, but they decide to actually blow the whistle). Or they flag the SMU defense for a ticky tack PI. Now if Miami can’t capitalize on that and loses, so be it. They won’t necessarily hand the game to UM. But they will give us lots of extra opportunities to win. That’s how the other conferences work.

It’s not cheating, it’s rational self interest that happens when refs work for the conferences. An independent officiating crew would solve this but conferences will NEVER agree to that because they need the refs to help certain teams.
 
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Dukes odds of making and winning ACCCG are currently +2200.

UM + 900
SMU + 110
UVA + 170
Pitt + 1100
 
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James Madison is not getting in. The committee told us last week that a G5 team without a p4 win will not make the playoff. That’s why Tulane was slotted in over JMU. One of the G5 champions is 100% not making it.
 
GladeCane said:
Should join AAC. Play a few top 20 non-conference teams, we'd be in the CFP every year.
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Why? We lose to inferior teams now because of coordinators capable of using their brains in an already **** conference? You really feel there's that much of a difference from one **** conference to another? Only difference is usually coaches in those lesser conferences have more freedom to explore the dark sides of their minds with playcalling. That's our kryptonite. Creativity. Smu is a **** team that we dominated yet we still found a way to give that game away. Louisville anyone that knows brohm knows he's gonna entirely change up his play calling against us to exploit our perceived weaknesses. Zero reason we SHOULD'VE lost either of those games beyond typical brain farts by coaches. The fact that position coaches are supposed to take the blame for this is absurd.
 
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