As stated, I'm actually surprised that we don't use this more. This is arguably the one place where the coaches are accepting reality and not ******** around with theory. REALITY has been that we generally aren't able to get good pressure on the quarterback whether we rush 3 or 4 or 5. The 3 man rush accepts that and relies on coverage. We would've practically never used this in our heyday because we could rush the passer. But if you accept that you can't rush the passer, putting more guys in coverage is not a bad tactic. And the red zone is the spot where we're most likely to use it since the idea is to close down windows and the red zone assists you in that.
This is not to say that the 3 man rush is good coaching. It's moreso a reflection of our inability to develop pass rushers. But, it does make sense for our team at the least since we aren't very good at getting to the QB. In order to say whether it's effective or not, one would have to study the results.
We had 3 sacks on Saturday: Grace, McCord and Burns.
As stated, I'm actually surprised that we don't use this more. This is arguably the one place where the coaches are accepting reality and not ******** around with theory. REALITY has been that we generally aren't able to get good pressure on the quarterback whether we rush 3 or 4 or 5. The 3 man rush accepts that and relies on coverage. We would've practically never used this in our heyday because we could rush the passer. But if you accept that you can't rush the passer, putting more guys in coverage is not a bad tactic. And the red zone is the spot where we're most likely to use it since the idea is to close down windows and the red zone assists you in that.
This is not to say that the 3 man rush is good coaching. It's moreso a reflection of our inability to develop pass rushers. But, it does make sense for our team at the least since we aren't very good at getting to the QB. In order to say whether it's effective or not, one would have to study the results.
We had 3 sacks on Saturday: Grace, McCord and Burns.
I don't recall those plays excepting Burns who I recall tackling the qb on a read option. Regardless, is this meant to argue that we get consistent pressure when we blitz? I haven't had that perception.
As stated, I'm actually surprised that we don't use this more. This is arguably the one place where the coaches are accepting reality and not ******** around with theory. REALITY has been that we generally aren't able to get good pressure on the quarterback whether we rush 3 or 4 or 5. The 3 man rush accepts that and relies on coverage. We would've practically never used this in our heyday because we could rush the passer. But if you accept that you can't rush the passer, putting more guys in coverage is not a bad tactic. And the red zone is the spot where we're most likely to use it since the idea is to close down windows and the red zone assists you in that.
This is not to say that the 3 man rush is good coaching. It's moreso a reflection of our inability to develop pass rushers. But, it does make sense for our team at the least since we aren't very good at getting to the QB. In order to say whether it's effective or not, one would have to study the results.
We had 3 sacks on Saturday: Grace, McCord and Burns.
I don't recall those plays excepting Burns who I recall tackling the qb on a read option. Regardless, is this meant to argue that we get consistent pressure when we blitz? I haven't had that perception.
No, not at all. But the only pressure we get if we get pressure is when we blitz.
3 man rush isn't designed to get to the QB. It's designed to hold position and disrupt the passing lanes with batted balls.
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That is exactly a true statement. And as brilliant a defensive mind that Gary Patterson is are you going to tell me he didn't at times rush 3 against Baylor? He got chewed up whether he rush 3, 4 or 5.
I just don't understand why they refuse to let Chad rush the passer on third downs.
DE McCord
DT Kamalu
DT Chickillo
DE Thomas
LB Perryman
LB Grace
CB Howard
CB Burns
NB Elder
FS Gunter
SS Bush
Mixing in a 3 man rush every once in a while is okay. Just to throw another look at the QB. But putting in 3 d linemen who have no idea how to get to the QB is mind numbingly stupid. If youre gonna rush 3, you better have your 2 best pass rushers on the outside and a pass rushing DT in the middle.
I can't think of anything more insulting to my intelligence than this. Teams like FSU and VT will murder us if we continue to rely on three DL who aren't even in a pass rushing stance when the ball's snapped.
Agreed... Our DL and their pass-running looks like '3 Stooges Live' on Broadway...
Moe: What do you see, boys?
Curly: I see a quarterback!
Larry: What should we do, Moe?
Moe: Stand in our gaps and stare at the QB like this...
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I can't think of anything more insulting to my intelligence than this. Teams like FSU and VT will murder us if we continue to rely on three DL who aren't even in a pass rushing stance when the ball's snapped.
Agreed... Our DL and their pass-running looks like '3 Stooges Live' on Broadway...
Moe: What do you see, boys?
Curly: I see a quarterback!
Larry: What should we do, Moe?
Moe: Stand in our gaps and stare at the QB like this...
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dude on the right kind of looks like Dorito for real...
I can't think of anything more insulting to my intelligence than this. Teams like FSU and VT will murder us if we continue to rely on three DL who aren't even in a pass rushing stance when the ball's snapped.
Agreed... Our DL and their pass-running looks like '3 Stooges Live' on Broadway...
Moe: What do you see, boys?
Curly: I see a quarterback!
Larry: What should we do, Moe?
Moe: Stand in our gaps and stare at the QB like this...
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dude on the right kind of looks like Dorito for real...
I can't think of anything more insulting to my intelligence than this. Teams like FSU and VT will murder us if we continue to rely on three DL who aren't even in a pass rushing stance when the ball's snapped.
Agreed... Our DL and their pass-running looks like '3 Stooges Live' on Broadway...
Moe: What do you see, boys?
Curly: I see a quarterback!
Larry: What should we do, Moe?
Moe: Stand in our gaps and stare at the QB like this...
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I just don't understand why they refuse to let Chad rush the passer on third downs.
DE McCord
DT Kamalu
DT Chickillo
DE Thomas
LB Perryman
LB Grace
CB Howard
CB Burns
NB Elder
FS Gunter
SS Bush
This Thurston team.