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canecrazy23 said:
Don't forget the 2 billionaires.
Soffers worth roughly 4.2 Billion
Mas Brothers roughly 1.3 Billion
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Each Mas bro is worth a billion.

Lots of schools have billionaires though. Unless we have some secret group of them that outnumbers most schools it never made sense to me that the money comes from our donors only.
 
El Orange said:
Each Mas bro is worth a billion.

Lots of schools have billionaires though. Unless we have some secret group of them that outnumbers most schools it never made sense to me that the money comes from our donors only.
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Yes but the Soffers have been heavily involved with UM for years and the Mas brothers were one of the reasons we got Mario. I don't know if any of the other teams Billionaires are as involved.
I mean Cuban just got heavy into it and look at IU now.
 
sfcane2 said:
Other schools have big hospital systems, but the Miami model still isn’t something they can easily copy. There are two main reasons:

1. No major football school relies on its health system the way Miami does.
At UM, UHealth produces about 63% of the entire university’s operating revenue. That level of dependence is unique. Even Duke — which is private — doesn’t have its university financially structured around Duke Health to that degree. At Michigan, UNC, UVA, Indiana, Colorado, etc., the health system is huge, but it isn’t the central financial engine of the whole university the way UHealth is for Miami.

2. Miami has a cleaner, more flexible governance structure than the public schools mentioned.
UNC Health, UVA Health, Michigan Medicine, Indiana Health, and Colorado Health are all tied into massive state systems and political oversight. Their surpluses get diluted across statewide priorities. Miami — and Duke — don’t deal with that. The difference is that Miami’s university leadership actually leverages UHealth’s surplus to stabilize athletics, whereas Duke’s model is far more siloed and conservative.

So yes, other schools have hospitals.
But none combine Miami’s revenue dependence on its health system with Miami’s willingness to use that advantage to support athletics — and that’s why it isn’t easily replicated.
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IU health- 4.5B last year.
UVA health - 4.8B last year
Duke Health - 6.6B last year
Uhealth - 5.2B

The difference is more nuanced.

Leadership
Billionaires - miami has lots that love football
UHealth
Law school
Business school
Large brand awareness
Top 5 recruiting area
Great tax laws for athletes(no income tax)
Weather
Etc etc etc
 
5XNC said:
Bingo. I’ve been trying to tell u all for the last couple years. We won’t ever lose a kid because we don’t have the money. We might not want to match what someone else is offering because we don’t agree with an evaluation, but we won’t lose anyone because we just didn’t have the money
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I love that so far imo we have spent wisely. Focus on the trenches... not chasing a Cam Coleman for instance
 
sfcane2 said:
UCLA has a monster health system, no question. In raw size, UCLA Health blows UHealth out of the water. The issue isn’t scale — it’s how the money actually moves.

UCLA could in theory do what Miami is doing, but in practice they can’t because:

1. UCLA is stuck inside the UC system.
Every dollar runs through a massive public-university bureaucracy. The reinvestment rules, union structures, state oversight, and political bottlenecks are on a completely different level. UCLA Health generates a ton of revenue, but it can’t just pivot that money into athletics or university flexibility the way a private school can.

2. Their surpluses get swallowed by the bigger UC machine.
UCLA Health helps stabilize UCLA, sure, but it also props up the rest of the system. That’s not happening at Miami. UHealth’s surplus goes straight into UM’s budget, not into some giant statewide structure.

3. UCLA Athletics actually runs behind, not ahead.
If UCLA could leverage its hospital system the way Miami does, they wouldn’t have needed the Big Ten bailout to dig themselves out of an athletic department deficit.

So yeah — UCLA has an elite medical footprint. But having hospitals doesn’t mean you can use the money the same way. Miami’s advantage isn’t just that UHealth exists; it’s how central it is to the university’s revenue and how freely UM leadership can deploy that stability.

That’s the part most schools — including UCLA — just can’t replicate.
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didnt say they would but they could- but the organizational structure highly unlikely to ever allow it, even though at end of day is likely revenue and brand net positive.
 
sfcane2 said:
This is pure speculation on my part, but I’ve been trying to understand how Miami keeps winning NIL battles. After piecing together different public comments and financial data, it looks pretty clear that UHealth is the financial engine behind the entire operation.

UHealth generates roughly $3.3B a year, and more importantly, it runs a large operating surplus every year. That’s extremely rare in the academic medical world.

A few numbers jumped out at me:
  • 63% of the entire university’s operating revenue now comes from UHealth.
  • Academics and athletics basically run at break-even.
  • UHealth subsidizes everything else.
Radakovich and Echevarria don’t spell out the details publicly, but the structure looks obvious:

UHealth → University Budget → Athletics (facilities, salaries, retention, stability)​

Its cashflow is the backbone of the entire NIL ecosystem.

Miami is one of the only ACC schools with:
  • a giant medical system,
  • a large private-university budget,
  • and a board actually willing to leverage both to support football.
Clemson, FSU, UNC, etc. can’t do this.

Why UHealth Is So Profitable​

Here’s the interesting part: UHealth isn’t one of the largest hospital systems, but it’s one of the most profitable relative to its size.

Most academic medical centers run on thin 2–4% margins.
UHealth posts mid–single-digit to low–double-digit operating surpluses, plus higher unrestricted cashflow because UM is private and far less bureaucratic.

The secret? South Florida’s demographics.

UHealth’s patient base is:
  • older,
  • wealthier,
  • heavily insured,
  • growing fast,
  • filled with NYC/Chicago/Latin America transplants,
  • dominated by private-pay and Medicare Advantage.
This is exactly the population hospital systems want.
The margins per patient are dramatically higher than markets like Detroit, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland.

On top of that, Miami’s hospital market is unusually fragmented and weaker compared to big medical cities.
None of them have the academic brand, elite specialists, or research footprint UHealth now does. Miami saw the gap and moved fast.

Because UHealth is so profitable and covers so much of the university’s operations, donors don’t have to be tapped for facilities, scholarships, or basic athletics infrastructure.
For context, UM received about $1.02B in total contributions across the entire university in FY 2024 — academics, med school, athletics, everything.

UHealth’s profitability lets the university pay its own bills.

How This Ties Back to Football​

Because UHealth is such a cash machine — and because leadership knows how to leverage it — Miami doesn’t need donors for:
  • buildings
  • coaching salaries
  • staff budgets
  • operations
  • recruiting infrastructure
All of that is handled by the university.

Which frees donors to focus on the only thing that actually wins in 2024:

NIL.​

Miami might be the only school where:
  • the university funds the infrastructure,
  • donors fund the roster,
  • the president’s office, UHealth, and athletics are aligned,
  • and the health system provides long-term financial stability.
No other ACC school can replicate this.
Honestly, most SEC schools can’t either.

That’s why Miami can operate with SEC-level resources while being a small private university.
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Thanks for the AI summary but what are you’re thoughts?
 
The hospital getting approved for campus will further help them spend Uhealth money on facility improvements
 
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sfcane2 said:
This is pure speculation on my part, but I’ve been trying to understand how Miami keeps winning NIL battles. After piecing together different public comments and financial data, it looks pretty clear that UHealth is the financial engine behind the entire operation.

UHealth generates roughly $3.3B a year, and more importantly, it runs a large operating surplus every year. That’s extremely rare in the academic medical world.

A few numbers jumped out at me:
  • 63% of the entire university’s operating revenue now comes from UHealth.
  • Academics and athletics basically run at break-even.
  • UHealth subsidizes everything else.
Radakovich and Echevarria don’t spell out the details publicly, but the structure looks obvious:

UHealth → University Budget → Athletics (facilities, salaries, retention, stability)​

Its cashflow is the backbone of the entire NIL ecosystem.

Miami is one of the only ACC schools with:
  • a giant medical system,
  • a large private-university budget,
  • and a board actually willing to leverage both to support football.
Clemson, FSU, UNC, etc. can’t do this.

Why UHealth Is So Profitable​

Here’s the interesting part: UHealth isn’t one of the largest hospital systems, but it’s one of the most profitable relative to its size.

Most academic medical centers run on thin 2–4% margins.
UHealth posts mid–single-digit to low–double-digit operating surpluses, plus higher unrestricted cashflow because UM is private and far less bureaucratic.

The secret? South Florida’s demographics.

UHealth’s patient base is:
  • older,
  • wealthier,
  • heavily insured,
  • growing fast,
  • filled with NYC/Chicago/Latin America transplants,
  • dominated by private-pay and Medicare Advantage.
This is exactly the population hospital systems want.
The margins per patient are dramatically higher than markets like Detroit, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland.

On top of that, Miami’s hospital market is unusually fragmented and weaker compared to big medical cities.
None of them have the academic brand, elite specialists, or research footprint UHealth now does. Miami saw the gap and moved fast.

Because UHealth is so profitable and covers so much of the university’s operations, donors don’t have to be tapped for facilities, scholarships, or basic athletics infrastructure.
For context, UM received about $1.02B in total contributions across the entire university in FY 2024 — academics, med school, athletics, everything.

UHealth’s profitability lets the university pay its own bills.

How This Ties Back to Football​

Because UHealth is such a cash machine — and because leadership knows how to leverage it — Miami doesn’t need donors for:
  • buildings
  • coaching salaries
  • staff budgets
  • operations
  • recruiting infrastructure
All of that is handled by the university.

Which frees donors to focus on the only thing that actually wins in 2024:

NIL.​

Miami might be the only school where:
  • the university funds the infrastructure,
  • donors fund the roster,
  • the president’s office, UHealth, and athletics are aligned,
  • and the health system provides long-term financial stability.
No other ACC school can replicate this.
Honestly, most SEC schools can’t either.

That’s why Miami can operate with SEC-level resources while being a small private university.
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Thank you, ChatGPT...
 
5XNC said:
Bingo. I’ve been trying to tell u all for the last couple years. We won’t ever lose a kid because we don’t have the money. We might not want to match what someone else is offering because we don’t agree with an evaluation, but we won’t lose anyone because we just didn’t have the money
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Cornell Medical is huge why aren’t they a juggernaut?? UCLA Medical is also huge??
 
CreativeCane said:
And you all thought Shalala didn't do anything to support athletics...




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unintended consequence
 
sfcane2 said:
This is pure speculation on my part, but I’ve been trying to understand how Miami keeps winning NIL battles. After piecing together different public comments and financial data, it looks pretty clear that UHealth is the financial engine behind the entire operation.

UHealth generates roughly $3.3B a year, and more importantly, it runs a large operating surplus every year. That’s extremely rare in the academic medical world.

A few numbers jumped out at me:
  • 63% of the entire university’s operating revenue now comes from UHealth.
  • Academics and athletics basically run at break-even.
  • UHealth subsidizes everything else.
Radakovich and Echevarria don’t spell out the details publicly, but the structure looks obvious:

UHealth → University Budget → Athletics (facilities, salaries, retention, stability)​

Its cashflow is the backbone of the entire NIL ecosystem.

Miami is one of the only ACC schools with:
  • a giant medical system,
  • a large private-university budget,
  • and a board actually willing to leverage both to support football.
Clemson, FSU, UNC, etc. can’t do this.

Why UHealth Is So Profitable​

Here’s the interesting part: UHealth isn’t one of the largest hospital systems, but it’s one of the most profitable relative to its size.

Most academic medical centers run on thin 2–4% margins.
UHealth posts mid–single-digit to low–double-digit operating surpluses, plus higher unrestricted cashflow because UM is private and far less bureaucratic.

The secret? South Florida’s demographics.

UHealth’s patient base is:
  • older,
  • wealthier,
  • heavily insured,
  • growing fast,
  • filled with NYC/Chicago/Latin America transplants,
  • dominated by private-pay and Medicare Advantage.
This is exactly the population hospital systems want.
The margins per patient are dramatically higher than markets like Detroit, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland.

On top of that, Miami’s hospital market is unusually fragmented and weaker compared to big medical cities.
None of them have the academic brand, elite specialists, or research footprint UHealth now does. Miami saw the gap and moved fast.

Because UHealth is so profitable and covers so much of the university’s operations, donors don’t have to be tapped for facilities, scholarships, or basic athletics infrastructure.
For context, UM received about $1.02B in total contributions across the entire university in FY 2024 — academics, med school, athletics, everything.

UHealth’s profitability lets the university pay its own bills.

How This Ties Back to Football​

Because UHealth is such a cash machine — and because leadership knows how to leverage it — Miami doesn’t need donors for:
  • buildings
  • coaching salaries
  • staff budgets
  • operations
  • recruiting infrastructure
All of that is handled by the university.

Which frees donors to focus on the only thing that actually wins in 2024:

NIL.​

Miami might be the only school where:
  • the university funds the infrastructure,
  • donors fund the roster,
  • the president’s office, UHealth, and athletics are aligned,
  • and the health system provides long-term financial stability.
No other ACC school can replicate this.
Honestly, most SEC schools can’t either.

That’s why Miami can operate with SEC-level resources while being a small private university.
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No idea on the profitability side ... but DUKE has a huge medical system and the Duke annual budget is over $11.3 Billion dollars with 64% from Duke Health systems. Miami's priorities are very clear however and were vocalized by the president last week "Miami has 3 legs to the stool ... U of Miami Academics ... UM Health Systems ... and U of Miami Athletics (which drive the brand nationally".
 
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