The Past Decade: Revealed

Jaromir Jagr

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Post-Season Record

We've heard about Jim Morris' stellar post-season record. It was pretty darn good in his first 12 years. Here is the breakdown for the past decade:

29 wins 24 losses (.547)

Record vs. #1 seeds: 3-12 (.200) We have not won a game against a #1 seed since 2008.
Record vs. #2 seeds: 4-6 (.400)
Record vs. #3 seeds: 13-5 (.722)
Record vs. #4 seeds: 9-1 (.900)

Home: 21-8 (.724)
Away: 0-7 (.000)
Neutral: 8-9 (.471) - Six of the eight neutral site wins were against 3/4 seeds in regionals that we ultimately lost.

His post-season winning percentage is already a mediocre .547, but as you look deeper you realize that even the mediocre record is smoke and mirrors. If the guy is not at home playing 3 and 4 seeds, his record is downright terrible.

College World Series Appearances

Three appearances in the last decade. Fifteen programs made three appearances during that same stretch, so we're not in elite company. Before Morris' Decade of Destruction, the previous 30% CWS rates were from 2006-2015 (Morris) and 2005-2014 (Morris). Before that? 1970-1979.

We are the only team in the Super Regional era that has not faced a #1 or #2 seed in two consecutive years on the paths to Omaha. Our resistance came against the likes of Columbia and Boston College (who both managed to beat us at home) and the perennial power Virginia Commonwealth. If not for those gifts, we are very likely comparing ourselves to NC State.

College World Series Success(?)

As of 7:15 PM, there have been 148 games played at the College World Series in the last decade. The University of Miami has won two of those games. Two. The historical Omaha legend Miami Hurricanes have won two games in Omaha in an entire decade. That alone should turn everyone's stomach.

That phenomenal number of wins has us tied for 18th with seven other teams. We are holding on tight to stay in the top 25 in that category. We are behind Georgia, who hasn't made the tournament for five straight years, and we are one CWS win ahead of Indiana. The Indiana Hoosiers of the Big 10.

"Randomness"

Some folks want you to believe that the post-season is just luck. No rhyme or reason. One stat blows that theory out of the water: 65% of the games won in Omaha over the past ten years have been won by 10 teams. Got that? 10 programs out of 300 account for two-thirds of all the CWS wins. What are they, the luckiest teams in America? No, they are the programs that built themselves for post-season success. South Carolina made it to three straight finals, and people want to tell you that it's random? Virgina/Vanderbilt AND Oregon State/UNC make it to back-to-back finals......but it's random? Arizona is one win away from making another finals appearance. Random.

Try this: choose about 30 cards from a deck and turn them face down. Pick two cards out. Shuffle the deck, turn them face down, then pick two cards again. Stop after you do it about 500 times without pulling the same two cards back-to-back. Then think about UVA/Vandy and tell me that CWS appearances and success are random.

We're not failing in Omaha because of dumb luck, we are failing in Omaha because we play a lightweight brand of baseball. What's that? We won 48 games (non D1 doesn't count)? Cool. We played exactly three Super Regional teams in the regular season, and we went 5-5 against them. None of those teams made noise in the post-season, either. Literally, with no exaggeration, our entire schedule fizzled out badly. Not one team on our schedule had an impressive post-season.

We will likely do the same next year. We will grind our way through Pittsburgh and Duke and Georgia Tech and we will win a lot of games and everyone will be impressed. Then, when we face a team that is playing really well (shocking to come across that in Omaha, right?), we will collapse. You want to talk about probabilities? Show me what we do against the top 15 or 20 teams in the post-season for the past 15 years. Then run some calculations and tell me how likely it is that our current philosophies will all of a sudden be successful.


Here is the scary part: think about what our Past Decade will look like when we have to drop the 2008 season off the back end.
 
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So lets get beyond the point of you wanting Morris gone. Everyone understands where you stand. I would like to know what you would do to achieve the desired goals you seek? Who or what type of coach (if you don't have a specific person) would you hire? How much time would you give them to obtain the result you seek? What is your expectations?

Lets take this discussion somewhere it hasn't or rarely ever gets to with you if you please.

For the record, I get tired of this argument, but am on the fence with it myself. Some days I think "Jagr is out of his mind," others I am like, "man got a point."
 
If the guy is not at home playing 3 and 4 seeds, his record is downright terrible.

This is a perfect illustration of the disconnect the professional whiners have with reality.

In Jim Morris' first 12 years (where you say he was pretty darn good) his record on the road vs. teams better than a 3-seed was.......

6-7.

A losing record.

Loaded teams. Great coaching.

Lost more than they won.

Newsflash to anyone not familiar with college baseball. When you're on the road in the NCAA Tournament you're not supposed to win those games.

It's incredible that things that are so obvious have to be explained or that somebody would think that these statistics are an indictment of a coach.

Go find any coach who makes his living winning road Tournament games against higher seeds.
 
If the guy is not at home playing 3 and 4 seeds, his record is downright terrible.

This is a perfect illustration of the disconnect the professional whiners have with reality.

In Jim Morris' first 12 years (where you say he was pretty darn good) his record on the road vs. teams better than a 3-seed was.......

6-7.

A losing record.

Loaded teams. Great coaching.

Lost more than they won.

Newsflash to anyone not familiar with college baseball. When you're on the road in the NCAA Tournament you're not supposed to win those games.

It's incredible that things that are so obvious have to be explained or that somebody would think that these statistics are an indictment of a coach.

Go find any coach who makes his living winning road Tournament games against higher seeds.

Who said anything about having a winning record on the road? HE DOESN'T HAVE A SINGLE WIN ON THE ROAD IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. Do you want to know who DOES have a win on the road in that time span? Columbia, Boston College, Stony Brook, Texas Tech (2), Missouri State, Arizona, and Texas A&M.

But asking Jim Morris to occasionally beat someone on the road? Impossible.
 
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That's BrianPiccolo's schtick in a nutshell.

"You aren't supposed to beat teams on the road in the post-season!!!"

Oh really? Then why do we have eight home losses in that ten-year stretch?

"Because it's RANDOM!"

But not for us, of course. Winning on the road is impossible.
 
When Miami is on the road, higher seeds are supposed to prevail at a 100% rate.

When Miami is at home, anything can happen because the post-season is random.

That's what I'm dealing with.
 
In Jim Morris' first 12 years (where you say he was pretty darn good) his record on the road vs. teams better than a 3-seed was.......

6-7.

In Jim Morris' first 12 years, he was 6-7 in true road games.

In Jim Morris' last 10 years, he is 0-7 in true road games.

Thank you for helping my case.
 
"Randomness"Some folks want you to believe that the post-season is just luck. No rhyme or reason.

A lie.

The regional and super regional are probabilistic. You gain advantages based on how good you were during the regular season. It's still the most obviously random sport and tournament in America but there's at least some rhyme or reason to it.

Omaha on the other hand is completely random.

The first number is the ISR-based probability for reaching the final. The second number is the probability for winning the championship.

2015: Virginia (0.7%, 0.1%) 23rd highest probability to win it
2014: Vanderbilt (9.4%, 4.5%) 9th highest probability to win it
2013: UCLA (1.8%, 0.6%) 10th highest probability to win it
2012: Arizona (4.4%, 2.2%) 11th highest probability to win it
2011: South Carolina (18.8%, 8.6%) 5th highest probability to win it

It's all over the place.

Not one computer and not one human picked any of these teams to win.

And this year....

Coastal Carolina (0.7%, 0.2%)
TCU (8.7%, 4.5%)
Oklahoma State (0.4%, 0.1%)
Arizona (1.4%, 0.4%)

The best case is that the 8th favorite wins it all (TCU). Otherwise we might have the second most improbable champion ever after Fresno State.
 
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Virgina/Vanderbilt AND Oregon State/UNC make it to back-to-back finals......but it's random?

Oregon State didn't make the NCAA Tournament in the 10 years prior to their three straight appearances from 2005-07. They also didn't make it the in year immediately after (2008).

Randomness defined.
 
Virgina/Vanderbilt AND Oregon State/UNC make it to back-to-back finals......but it's random?

Oregon State didn't make the NCAA Tournament in the 10 years prior to their three straight appearances from 2005-07. They also didn't make it the in year immediately after (2008).

Randomness defined.

So "randomness defined" includes having the exact same teams make the finals in back-to-back years.....TWICE.

And have another team make it three years in a row.
 
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Arizona is one win away from making another finals appearance. Random.

Arizona reached Omaha in 2004.

Then they failed to go again for the next 7 years and missed the NCAA Tournament twice in that span.

Then they win the national championship in 2012.....and didn't make the NCAA Tournament again until this year!

So....

2004: College World Series
2005: Regional
2006: Missed Tournament
2007: Regional
2008: Super Regional
2009: Missed Tournament
2010: Regional
2011: Regional
2012: National Champions
2013: Missed Tournament
2014: Missed Tournament
2015: Missed Tournament

The dictionary definition of random. It's like the Marlins winning the World Series twice in their only two playoff appearances.

Total flukes.
 
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We will likely do the same next year. We will grind our way through Pittsburgh and Duke and Georgia Tech and we will win a lot of games and everyone will be impressed.

Except from 2009-2013 we weren't even doing that.

And you were predicting that we'd lose all the time during the regular season.

So as usual regular season results are really important when we're losing but completely dismissed when we start winning.
 
So no matter how much evidence you get, it's still going to be a "total fluke". Got it.

Any takers on the Miami Hurricanes O/U for wins in next year's CWS? I've got it set at 0.5 wins.
 
We will likely do the same next year. We will grind our way through Pittsburgh and Duke and Georgia Tech and we will win a lot of games and everyone will be impressed.

Except from 2009-2013 we weren't even doing that.

And you were predicting that we'd lose all the time during the regular season.

So as usual regular season results are really important when we're losing but completely dismissed when we start winning.

We showed in Omaha exactly what kind of team we are. Don't blame me that our schedule was full of other lightweights. "But our SOS......". Yeah, no one cares about that or relies on it.
 
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"You aren't supposed to beat teams on the road in the post-season!!!"

I also neglected to mention that one of those wins was from a road regional in 1996 where Miami was the 1-seed.

So 5-7 on the road as the lower seed.

No reasonable person would ever use such a silly argument.

Is anybody surprised that the 2007, 2009, 2011 and 2013 teams didn't win those road regionals? Of course not. They weren't supposed to and they didn't.
 
But asking Jim Morris to occasionally beat someone on the road? Impossible.

He does.

He just hasn't beaten a higher seed on the road.

And just the for the record we haven't played a road Tournament game since 2013 which is a good thing.

Your best teams don't play road games in the Tournament, numbnuts.

If you're on the road in June you're there for a reason.
 
"You aren't supposed to beat teams on the road in the post-season!!!"

I also neglected to mention that one of those wins was from a road regional in 1996 where Miami was the 1-seed.

So 5-7 on the road as the lower seed.

No reasonable person would ever use such a silly argument.

Is anybody surprised that the 2007, 2009, 2011 and 2013 teams didn't win those road regionals? Of course not. They weren't supposed to and they didn't.

I see......you're purposely twisting it to avoid the obvious. No one said we had to win the regionals on the road. But wouldn't it seem that we could win one game one time on the road in a ten year period.....IF we have such a stellar post-season manager?

I listed seven teams that came in and won in Coral Gables. They didn't necessarily win regionals. But they beat us at home. Seven different teams. Columbia went on the road against a National Seed with their 17th pitcher and won. But expecting the Miami Hurricanes to win ONE ROAD GAME? in TEN YEARS? Impossible. Higher seeds win.
 
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