The Next DC

[AUcane]

I will say that if we ended up with:

DL Kuligowski
LB/DC Olivadotti
DB Raymond

That would probably be the strongest defensive coaching staff in the country.

And, they're all top notch guys in their early to mid 40s. Solid solid.

 

[AUcane]

3-4 or 4-3 is not the issue at all and people need to understand that.

What is significantly more important is the gap philosophy:

1 gap or 2 gap for the DL?

Spill or contain?

The irony is you have people on here dying for Leavitt bc he runs a 4-3.

But Leavitt's system requires more size and power. It is a "boxing the ball back" system, where the idea is to use power to force the ball inside. The Sam LB in his system needs to be a big strong dude well over 240 lbs. The 4-3 Leavitt runs is the exact version of the 4-3 that Dono uses when we ran single gap fronts.

Here's another example: the 2012-2014 Denver Broncos were a mediocre defense. They played Jack Del Rio's 2-gap 4-3. Essentially, the DTs were asked to be big powerful space eaters, responsible for 2 gaps. That Temple guy "Potroast" excelled in that system b/c it is a read and react philosophy from the interior DL.

Needless to say, that defense was completely average and downright bad at generating QB pressure.

Fast forward today, and Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 defense. But his defense is single gap, and so they dumped "Potroast", and the DL are now charged with getting up field off the snap. They are quick, fast, and they slant and stunt all over the place. B/C of their alignment, they are able to send 5 on every play if needed, no problem. Denver now boasts the top defense in the league.

So you went from a 4-3 2-gap defense that was mediocre, to a 3-4 single gap defense that is elite. Not b/c you changed a goddam alignment, but b/c you changed the defensive philosophy.

Chris Cooley has a radio broadcast in the DC area and he does a fantastic job of breaking down film and getting real technical on analysis. I've always found it interesting his take on stopping the spread. He's maintained that the way to stop a spread is with a 1 gapping 3-4 that does the things you highlight.

 

[FullyERicht]

If I'm going to the NFL for a DC I find a guy who has worked under Wade Phillips for awhile and can install Wade's system here. Wade's defenses are always nasty, fast, disrespectful and disruptive.

I don't think that guy gets enough love as the absolute defensive genius he is because he's old, low key and has failed as a HC. His defenses are absolutely tailor made for the speed and downhill athletes we have access to.

Yup Aranda's defense is very similar to Philips in that it's an aggressive single gap 3-4 that uses smaller players.

Jay Ratliff, a pro bowl center for the Cowboys when Phillips was their HC/DC was 290 freaking pounds. Bruce Smith was a 3-4 DE under Wade in Buffalo and he was 260!! You don't need to be big in a single gap 3-4.

 

[drifters1234]

If I'm going to the NFL for a DC I find a guy who has worked under Wade Phillips for awhile and can install Wade's system here. Wade's defenses are always nasty, fast, disrespectful and disruptive.

I don't think that guy gets enough love as the absolute defensive genius he is because he's old, low key and has failed as a HC. His defenses are absolutely tailor made for the speed and downhill athletes we have access to.

Greg Williams is another stud with a defensive philosophy that would capitalize on our talent base. Nonstop pressure and violence

 

[FullyERicht]

If I'm going to the NFL for a DC I find a guy who has worked under Wade Phillips for awhile and can install Wade's system here. Wade's defenses are always nasty, fast, disrespectful and disruptive.

I don't think that guy gets enough love as the absolute defensive genius he is because he's old, low key and has failed as a HC. His defenses are absolutely tailor made for the speed and downhill athletes we have access to.

You're spot on with this one. Phillips absolutely doesn't get the respect he deserves because he doesn't have a Buddy Ryan type of saltiness to offset his physical demeanor. The dude has looked like a resident of a retirement village that abuses all the local senior discounts for like the last 20 years. He knows defense though.

If he had Kiffin's hair all these faqcits would be worshipping him.

cryyyyyying over this......partly bc it's hilarious, but mostly bc it's sadly true.

Heck if Dave Aranda only locked a kid in a closet like Leach, or choked him out like Leavitt, people would be building a golden calf to pray to named "Aranda".

 

[Tad Footeball]

I will say that if we ended up with:

DL Kuligowski
LB/DC Olivadotti
DB Raymond

That would probably be the strongest defensive coaching staff in the country.

And, they're all top notch guys in their early to mid 40s. Solid solid.

I'd take that trio in a second but freakin' Ohio State's defensive staff comes to mind immediately and quite possibly Michigan's if we're making the leap to a "best in the country" discussion.

 

[Gatorhater]

Obviously since he hasn't been named..Our next DC is still working.. Question / Poll. .is he coaching in the College or NFL ranks?

Congrads on your son's awards. Still can't wait to see him run through the Smoke. Who ever it is I want to things: 4-3 and aggression. Do not want a 3-4 at all. Too much need and temptation to turn from speed to bulk. You boy is made to be a Hurricane MLB in a classic 4-3 Cane defense.

As hard as DT for a 4-3 are to find, NTs for 3-4 are even harder. Then you have to fatten up what should be fast 4-3 DTs into fat slow 3-4 DTs and have your DEs dropping into coverage instead of meeting at the QB.

The NT in Arandas defense doesn't have to be more than 300 LBs. Aka a standard DT size. You people need to learn more and porst less.

In general he's right but yeah Aranda is probably the most unique defense I've ever seen. Crazy confusing for offensive lines and literally anybody could be the down lineman or stand up end /linebacker at any time. Hope he comes here but highly doubt it on no real legit rumors

Confusion is common objective of the 3-4, isn't it? If so, are guy were not very good at it. Aranda is 1000 time better than Al, but our best defenses were basic "here we are, try to beat us sucker" types. Is So Fl the hotbed of recruiting for deception type defensive players? I want what we won with, not want we like.

I love the old 53 defense of the Dolphins, which was basically the first 3-4 defense. It confused the crap out of people. Please note it had one oversized (for the time) lb, one soon to be attorney lb, one "I am going to med school" lb, one of the smartest SS to ever play, a total phenom at FS, it even had your small little crazy dude at NT, oh did I mention it had one count them one black player starting on defense. Does that sound like the type of defense Miami is going to try to recruit?

Our strength is local access unlimited speed and aggression, not planned confusion. Please, 4 years of trying to change our frigging DNA is enough. Let's dance with what brought us. It is who we are.

 

[FullyERicht]

Obviously since he hasn't been named..Our next DC is still working.. Question / Poll. .is he coaching in the College or NFL ranks?

Congrads on your son's awards. Still can't wait to see him run through the Smoke. Who ever it is I want to things: 4-3 and aggression. Do not want a 3-4 at all. Too much need and temptation to turn from speed to bulk. You boy is made to be a Hurricane MLB in a classic 4-3 Cane defense.

As hard as DT for a 4-3 are to find, NTs for 3-4 are even harder. Then you have to fatten up what should be fast 4-3 DTs into fat slow 3-4 DTs and have your DEs dropping into coverage instead of meeting at the QB.

The NT in Arandas defense doesn't have to be more than 300 LBs. Aka a standard DT size. You people need to learn more and porst less.

In general he's right but yeah Aranda is probably the most unique defense I've ever seen. Crazy confusing for offensive lines and literally anybody could be the down lineman or stand up end /linebacker at any time. Hope he comes here but highly doubt it on no real legit rumors

Confusion is common objective of the 3-4, isn't it? If so, are guy were not very good at it. Aranda is 1000 time better than Al, but our best defenses were basic "here we are, try to beat us sucker" types. Is So Fl the hotbed of recruiting for deception type defensive players? I want what we won with, not want we like.

I love the old 53 defense of the Dolphins, which was basically the first 3-4 defense. It confused the crap out of people. Please note it had one oversized (for the time) lb, one soon to be attorney lb, one "I am going to med school" lb, one of the smartest SS to ever play, a total phenom at FS, it even had your small little crazy dude at NT, oh did I mention it had one count them one black player starting on defense. Does that sound like the type of defense Miami is going to try to recruit?

Our strength is local access unlimited speed and aggression, not planned confusion. Please, 4 years of trying to change our frigging DNA is enough. Let's dance with what brought us. It is who we are.

So you are saying you want a defense that is predictable? That is not going to be hard to gameplan for? And the reason for this is some nostalgia trip?

For me, I'd love a defense in which not only do we have several future NFL players, and a ton of speed, but where we can actually out scheme an opponent for a change.

Maybe if we had some confusion in our defense, Craig Krenzel wouldn't have ran for 81 goddam yards on us in a title game. Or maybe we wouldn't have lost to Marcus Goddam Vick in blacksburg. Or to Louisville, GT, and UNC in years to follow.

People like you are the exact type of people who hated when JJ brought the 4-3 Over here. Literally identical line of thinking.

 

[The Franchise]

Obviously since he hasn't been named..Our next DC is still working.. Question / Poll. .is he coaching in the College or NFL ranks?

Congrads on your son's awards. Still can't wait to see him run through the Smoke. Who ever it is I want to things: 4-3 and aggression. Do not want a 3-4 at all. Too much need and temptation to turn from speed to bulk. You boy is made to be a Hurricane MLB in a classic 4-3 Cane defense.

As hard as DT for a 4-3 are to find, NTs for 3-4 are even harder. Then you have to fatten up what should be fast 4-3 DTs into fat slow 3-4 DTs and have your DEs dropping into coverage instead of meeting at the QB.

The NT in Arandas defense doesn't have to be more than 300 LBs. Aka a standard DT size. You people need to learn more and porst less.

In general he's right but yeah Aranda is probably the most unique defense I've ever seen. Crazy confusing for offensive lines and literally anybody could be the down lineman or stand up end /linebacker at any time. Hope he comes here but highly doubt it on no real legit rumors

Confusion is common objective of the 3-4, isn't it? If so, are guy were not very good at it. Aranda is 1000 time better than Al, but our best defenses were basic "here we are, try to beat us sucker" types. Is So Fl the hotbed of recruiting for deception type defensive players? I want what we won with, not want we like.

I love the old 53 defense of the Dolphins, which was basically the first 3-4 defense. It confused the crap out of people. Please note it had one oversized (for the time) lb, one soon to be attorney lb, one "I am going to med school" lb, one of the smartest SS to ever play, a total phenom at FS, it even had your small little crazy dude at NT, oh did I mention it had one count them one black player starting on defense. Does that sound like the type of defense Miami is going to try to recruit?

Our strength is local access unlimited speed and aggression, not planned confusion. Please, 4 years of trying to change our frigging DNA is enough. Let's dance with what brought us. It is who we are.

Our best defenses were also BEFORE the proliferation of the spread offense. Just lining up in a 4-3 cover 2 and out-athleting opponents is a relic of the past.

Monte Kiffin was an absolute master of the aggressive simple 4-3 "Mike down the pike" defense. He practically invented it. Remember what happened to him at USC? His own son had to run him off because he was getting destroyed by spread teams. Couldn't stop anyone.

Unfortunately, our fanbase has PTSD from Folden and is unwilling to listen to anything other than 1990s Miami defense.

 

[TpaBayFlyFisher]

Let me drop this here.................Raheem Morris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raheem_Morris

 

[Al Foil]

Interesting sir....

Kirk Olavadotti and Raheem Morris worked together in Washington in 2014.

Is that your CO-DC combo?

Let me drop this here.................Raheem Morris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raheem_Morris

 

[dcornelius]

if i am not mistaken fedora just signed a contract extension recently so he is not going anywhere

 

[FullyERicht]

Don Brown was my guy, but FFS if you aren't completely creaming at Aranda you are a moron who should be playing Dungeons and Dragons and not football. His entire philosophy is about ******* with protections in a very unique, hard to prepare for way.

 

[Gatorhater]

Congrads on your son's awards. Still can't wait to see him run through the Smoke. Who ever it is I want to things: 4-3 and aggression. Do not want a 3-4 at all. Too much need and temptation to turn from speed to bulk. You boy is made to be a Hurricane MLB in a classic 4-3 Cane defense.

As hard as DT for a 4-3 are to find, NTs for 3-4 are even harder. Then you have to fatten up what should be fast 4-3 DTs into fat slow 3-4 DTs and have your DEs dropping into coverage instead of meeting at the QB.

The NT in Arandas defense doesn't have to be more than 300 LBs. Aka a standard DT size. You people need to learn more and porst less.

In general he's right but yeah Aranda is probably the most unique defense I've ever seen. Crazy confusing for offensive lines and literally anybody could be the down lineman or stand up end /linebacker at any time. Hope he comes here but highly doubt it on no real legit rumors

Confusion is common objective of the 3-4, isn't it? If so, are guy were not very good at it. Aranda is 1000 time better than Al, but our best defenses were basic "here we are, try to beat us sucker" types. Is So Fl the hotbed of recruiting for deception type defensive players? I want what we won with, not want we like.

I love the old 53 defense of the Dolphins, which was basically the first 3-4 defense. It confused the crap out of people. Please note it had one oversized (for the time) lb, one soon to be attorney lb, one "I am going to med school" lb, one of the smartest SS to ever play, a total phenom at FS, it even had your small little crazy dude at NT, oh did I mention it had one count them one black player starting on defense. Does that sound like the type of defense Miami is going to try to recruit?

Our strength is local access unlimited speed and aggression, not planned confusion. Please, 4 years of trying to change our frigging DNA is enough. Let's dance with what brought us. It is who we are.

Our best defenses were also BEFORE the proliferation of the spread offense. Just lining up in a 4-3 cover 2 and out-athleting opponents is a relic of the past.

Monte Kiffin was an absolute master of the aggressive simple 4-3 "Mike down the pike" defense. He practically invented it. Remember what happened to him at USC? His own son had to run him off because he was getting destroyed by spread teams. Couldn't stop anyone.

Unfortunately, our fanbase has PTSD from Folden and is unwilling to listen to anything other than 1990s Miami defense.

You could be right. But, the proliferation of the spread came about after our demise. I just watch football and am not as expert as many here, but how does today's spread compare to the old Houston offense we caned into wilderness? I remember they could not be stopped until their coach noticed our lbs covering their WRs while our DT collapsed the pocket and DE buried their gunslinger QB. Not sure it was same offense but sure seems similar. And today's read looks a lot like Huskers option of 80's. Let's not forget Nick's demon -- uptempo. I think our base with little need to substitute will do nicely there too.

Like I said, you can be right but until we actually see a Miami quality 4-3 defense with decent coaching, I will remain doubtful. No offense lives long when the defense cohabits its backfield. Mobile QBs gave us troubles, but our DEs learned to maintain contain and limited that damage. We will need those DTs again or forgetaboutit.

 

[Salt]

3-4 or 4-3 is not the issue at all and people need to understand that.

What is significantly more important is the gap philosophy:

1 gap or 2 gap for the DL?

Spill or contain?

The irony is you have people on here dying for Leavitt bc he runs a 4-3.

But Leavitt's system requires more size and power. It is a "boxing the ball back" system, where the idea is to use power to force the ball inside. The Sam LB in his system needs to be a big strong dude well over 240 lbs. The 4-3 Leavitt runs is the exact version of the 4-3 that Dono uses when we ran single gap fronts.

Here's another example: the 2012-2014 Denver Broncos were a mediocre defense. They played Jack Del Rio's 2-gap 4-3. Essentially, the DTs were asked to be big powerful space eaters, responsible for 2 gaps. That Temple guy "Potroast" excelled in that system b/c it is a read and react philosophy from the interior DL.

Needless to say, that defense was completely average and downright bad at generating QB pressure.

Fast forward today, and Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 defense. But his defense is single gap, and so they dumped "Potroast", and the DL are now charged with getting up field off the snap. They are quick, fast, and they slant and stunt all over the place. B/C of their alignment, they are able to send 5 on every play if needed, no problem. Denver now boasts the top defense in the league.

So you went from a 4-3 2-gap defense that was mediocre, to a 3-4 single gap defense that is elite. Not b/c you changed a goddam alignment, but b/c you changed the defensive philosophy.

Chris Cooley has a radio broadcast in the DC area and he does a fantastic job of breaking down film and getting real technical on analysis. I've always found it interesting his take on stopping the spread. He's maintained that the way to stop a spread is with a 1 gapping 3-4 that does the things you highlight.

Which I read Aranda's defenses are designed to do.

 

[NosniknoT]

I would be happy with just getting some confirmation of what coaches are gone for sure.

 

[Al Foil]

CO-DC/CB Raheem Morris
CO-DC/LB Kirk Olivadotti
DL Craig Kuligowski

Could you imagine?

 

[The Franchise]

Don Brown was my guy, but FFS if you aren't completely creaming at Aranda you are a moron who should be playing Dungeons and Dragons and not football. His entire philosophy is about ******* with protections in a very unique, hard to prepare for way.

Remember when Brother Oliver took a bunch of dogs and fcked with our protection in the NC game in the Sugar Bowl? We had no answers, and Torretta took a savage beating all night.

 

[FullyERicht]

Don Brown was my guy, but FFS if you aren't completely creaming at Aranda you are a moron who should be playing Dungeons and Dragons and not football. His entire philosophy is about ****ing with protections in a very unique, hard to prepare for way.

Remember when Brother Oliver took a bunch of dogs and fcked with our protection in the NC game in the Sugar Bowl? We had no answers, and Torretta took a savage beating all night.

Miami fans haven't seen an innovative, hard to prep for, unique system here in decades. The same folks who are adamant that we only ever use 4-3 over Cover 2 are the same ones who *****ed when JJ first brought that unique, innovative, hard to prep for defense here.

Miami used to be the place where coaches came to innovate and dominate. But our fans want us to line up with a fullback on offense and sit in 4-3 C2 all game b/c they think that all we have been missing these years is the true magical scheme that Miami cannot exist without.

 

[IndayArtHauz]

I'm a panda for Aranda.