The "Bag Men" Are Real...

Recruits went to Bama and Ohio State because they knew that Saban and Meyer were proven winners and that they'd have a top notch experience at prestigious programs while giving them a great chance to go pro. Early playing time at programs that are down is also very appealing. I am not saying their aren't bagmen but the breathe of fresh air (Shannon had #1 class his first years) and coaches background plays a major factor on top kids picking down programs
 
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Recruits went to Bama and Ohio State because they knew that Saban and Meyer were proven winners and that they'd have a top notch experience at prestigious programs while giving them a great chance to go pro. Early playing time at programs that are down is also very appealing. I am not saying their aren't bagmen but the breathe of fresh air (Shannon had #1 class his first years) and coaches background plays a major factor on top kids picking down programs

I agree, we can't just blame the duffel bags every time a kid picks bama or OSU. The recent winning tradition and Brand name coaches gets the recruits interested, the duffel bags make sure they keep their attention on those schools and not others.
 
SEC schools HAVE to pay. A Miami kid is not going to back-woods, Southern country unless they get paid. I lived in Atlanta and it is a pit. Spent 4-years there and it is the "Dukes of Hazards". Consequently, you can imagine what these "towns" look like.

My wife is from LA and Atlanta astounded her. Atlanta is 50-years behind LA, NYC, DC, Boston, etc...
 
The exist just like the Boogie man...But since we're on that subject? How did Richt get Sony Michel from being all cane ? To a Bulldog?

Faith???
 
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The exist just like the Boogie man...But since we're on that subject? How did Richt get Sony Michel from being all cane ? To a Bulldog?

Faith???

Georgia got bag men too fam, and the coach usually doesn't have any contact with the bags, so can't put any blame on Richt there
 
All SEC schools pay through their foundations. The ex-CEO of my fund tormented me for 6-months about Michel. They paid him a TON of money. The foundations have zero affiliation with the school and zero contact. My wife's Godfather has intermittently been on the Board of the Razorback foundation. Collins received the most that they have ever paid an athlete. If someone shows up in Fayteville to "investigate, they may never make it back..."

There are more SEC-affiliated employees in the NCAA than any other conference. The problem is that they cannot pay everyone and players talk. Not everyone gets the same amount. Miami has so many stars in its backyard that they can probably win without having to pay.
 
The Bag Men Are Very Real...

For anyone still living in unicorn and fairy land, **NEWSFLASH**!!!

The bag men are very real.
The bottom line is clear. Money talks and B.S. walks!

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The exist just like the Boogie man...But since we're on that subject? How did Richt get Sony Michel from being all cane ? To a Bulldog?

Faith???

Georgia got bag men too fam, and the coach usually doesn't have any contact with the bags, so can't put any blame on Richt there

All I know is that coach wanted him, and he got him...Whatever happened with his brother?
 
SEC schools HAVE to pay. A Miami kid is not going to back-woods, Southern country unless they get paid. I lived in Atlanta and it is a pit. Spent 4-years there and it is the "Dukes of Hazards". Consequently, you can imagine what these "towns" look like.

My wife is from LA and Atlanta astounded her. Atlanta is 50-years behind LA, NYC, DC, Boston, etc...[/QUOTE

Seriously

By 2010 census results
Rank City African-American Population Size (2010 Census)
1 New York, New York MSA 3,362,616
2 Atlanta, Georgia MSA 1,976,983
3 Chicago, Illinois MSA 1,645,993
4 Washington, District of Columbia (DC-MD-VA-WV) PMSA
 
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bag men....is that the same as bag lady. What do we call a transgendered bag person? Do they have a different bag or can they use the same one
 
Nahhhhhh. You get top ranked classes overnight in the $EC by good ol fashioned hard work only.....

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SEC schools HAVE to pay. A Miami kid is not going to back-woods, Southern country unless they get paid. I lived in Atlanta and it is a pit. Spent 4-years there and it is the "Dukes of Hazards". Consequently, you can imagine what these "towns" look like.

My wife is from LA and Atlanta astounded her. Atlanta is 50-years behind LA, NYC, DC, Boston, etc...[/QUOTE

Seriously

By 2010 census results
Rank City African-American Population Size (2010 Census)
1 New York, New York MSA 3,362,616
2 Atlanta, Georgia MSA 1,976,983
3 Chicago, Illinois MSA 1,645,993
4 Washington, District of Columbia (DC-MD-VA-WV) PMSA

canesproponent......Your ignorant and really dont know what you dont know. Atlanta is considered by many as the new "black Mecca" in the US. Atlanta is one of the most progressive cities in the south. furthermore, Gwinnett County (located in metro atlanta) is the most ethnically and culturally diverse county east of the Mississippi ( yes more diverse than NY, Miami dade, south FLA, DC, etc)

I live in ATL and what I see that often happens is a cultural clash between white (and non white too) northerners (or non southerners) who clash with the cultural practices of southerners.

Perfect example of how this cultural clash can manifest..... (in miami, I was at walmart and two guys were pushing a cart full of cases of beer. As I passed them I asked "what time is the party" they looked at me like "why the fug you talking to us".......same scenario in Atlanta would have gotten some small talk and LOL's) . Clash of non southern culture with southern culture...regardless of ones race.
 
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Ole Miss is certainly bag man U. No doubt. Thats what u call arm pit. No tradition, no nothing but racist history. And sure enough they are in hot water. Its not the school that pays the players.... Mostly, its the boosters out their own pocket with the school's involved. We had Shapiro who was a midget lunatic. You would think we could find a couple dumb celebrities who got nothing better to do with their money than live their life through football players. But then again we would no doubt be caught and hanged.

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I do not care about population. The capital of the South is Atlanta and it should be razed to the ground.

The 'Low Country' is the only worthwhile aspect of the South. The place is an economic quagmire. It is the armpit of this country. The only reason a metropolitan, Miami kid goes to SEC country is for money. Pure and simple. Spend a weekend in LA, DC, NYC, Boston or even Portland or Seatlle. All of these cities are light years ahead of the South - i.e. the armpit of America.
 
Yes...the sky IS blue...water IS wet...I agree 100%.

I started this thread for the trolls/porsters that claim that there is no payola going on. That simply winning will be the cure all.

They are the same people who believe the politicians of their choice tell the truth and only those other one lie. Wait, I think Hilary destroyed that. Now we all know both lie but we vote for them anyway. Crap, there is no excuse to think there are no bagmen.
 
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The Bag Men Are Very Real...

For anyone still living in unicorn and fairy land, **NEWSFLASH**!!!

The bag men are very real. I'm talking to you Cold Beer and the rest of the porsters that claim that winning is all we have to do to get top classes. While I agree that it'll help, it won't magically bring us back to getting #1 classes.

Some of you forget that Nick "The Midget" Satan had an abysmal first season at 'Bama, and he still pulled in a great class the following year. 'Bama had sucked for a good number of years and had been under NCAA punishment for violations a couple of times. It all changed when he came on the scene and his best buddy, NCAA President, Emmert (most crooked guy in sports), landed the job. 'Bama and the SEC had finally gotten it's dream scenario. A guy that would cover up any major violations by said conference while torching (or trying to) the competition.

Urban Cryer did the same at Taint. Taint had fallen off the map. They were sucking it up bad. Then, almost as if by magic, he started landing top classes from the get go.

Same thing with Jimbo at FSWHO?! They had been mediocre under Bowden for the last few years of Bobby's reign. Then all of a sudden ole hillbilly Jimbo takes over and magically starts to reel in top classes.

Clemson pays top dollar, too. That's how they got back to elite status after years of mediocrity before sly Dabo showed up on the scene.

The bottom line is clear. Money talks and B.S. walks!

After all of the pics showing H.S. recruits flashing big wads of cash and fancy brand new sports cars, you'd think people would stop drinking the Kool Aid. Most of these top recruits come from low income families, but then all of a sudden have all this cash to flash and the money to buy $30,000 sports cars. It's laughable to think that it's legit.

Even after the article titled "The Bag Man", which has been shared on this site, some people still refuse to believe the truth.

I believe that Richt is a very good coach and great recruiter, but even he will have a mountain to climb. The U can't afford to pay-to-play the game. They are being watched by the NCAA more than any other school. The powers that be fear the U coming back to prominence. That would throw a huge monkey wrench into their ESECPN machine, and that's a big no-no.

Richt and staff have done an excellent job so far, considering the **** fest that the last staff left. One thing that in my opinion will be night and day is the player development. I think that this staff has what it takes to teach, plan and execute on the field.

Paradise Camp was a great start to getting back on the right track. Hopefully some of these top local kids will soon start valuing putting on for their city more than the cash, cars, family jobs, full scholarships for girlfriends (here's looking at you Byrd and Fils-Aimes), etc..

At the end of the day, it's still all about this U!!!

See Tee Higgins... Obviously not a Canes related recruit but I spoke to the mom of a recruit this morning who said Higgins was paid by UT and then outbid by Clemson. Could just be sour grapes because he recently decommitted from UT, but it wouldn't shock me in the least.
 
we will play 'the game' too, there is no other choice in this era of cfb if yu really wanna compete

If we were "playing the game", guys like Jeudy would be locks to come here. Think about it, get paid to stay home in the comforts of your own city, play in front of your family/friends, or get paid to go live in the slum that is Tuscaloosa for 4 years. We're definitely not "playing the game", if we were, the choice would be a simple one for him.
Not true we just cant afford to play at the level Alabama and others play at. Do you think Shapiro is the only rich guy in Miami that loves the U? Don't be silly. Just in Tuscaloosa that is everyone's cash machine. They are invested in that school and way of life. Just how it is. Way different life in Miami or south Florida at that.

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Do you really think that anyone at the U would risk getting nailed by the NCAA so soon after almost getting hammered by them just recently. You must be trolling. If there is a program that has to tread very carefully right now it's us. Those dirtbags are looking for the smallest thing to come down with the hammer on us.

Doesn't mean we haven't played the game in the past. We obviously have. But definitely not at the moment.
 
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